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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.


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Comments

Since: Nov 28, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 7:56 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Dalton will better better than Carson 
however
He still has at least 3 more years till he gets to that point

I wish Carson nothing but the best even tho i never liked drafting him 



Since: Nov 22, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 5:38 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

>>>Riby said: Seeing as he quit (for good reason) on a team before, he might have to really work for the acceptance of his new teammates.

He quit after the addition to the receiver corps he asked for, and got, didn't work out.  He wanted the accolades.  He wanted the power to make personnel decisions.  They didn't work out then he whined when the team got booed. 

I don't expect anyone from outside the Cincinnati to have seen the constant boo-hooing, "poor pitiful me" we witnessed here.  Unlike most professional athletes it seems he worked at alienating the local fans.  Good riddance to him and his years of mediocre-to-crappy attitude.



Since: Oct 23, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 2:20 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I think its a good move for both teams and could pay off, I just cant believe Brown was intelligent enough to do it. Hope they dont screw up the draft now.<br />




Since: Jun 19, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:57 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Oakland will be an underdog probably at least twice over the next 6 weeks and probably never be more then a 4 or 5 point favourite, with the only exception maybe being the Denver game coming up soon.  Keep in mind there is no way that Carson Palmer can be effective for Oakland for a little while.

I think you mean Oakland will be an underdog at most twice over the next 6 weeks.  No way in balls are they gonna be an underdog to KC, DEN, MIN, or MIA.  All 3 of those teams are flat out awful.  Can they lose to any of them?  Of course, nothings a given.  This isn't college.  But I am thinking that the money lines for you to pick any of those teams over Oakland is gonna a bit more attractive than Oakland beating CHI or SD because, quite frankly, the gap for the Raiders is smaller in underdog win potential between SD and OAK or CHI and OAK, then OAK vs. any of the other 4.... if there's even a gap at all.  I personally think OAK has a better team and more upside than Chicago, especially after how awful Cutler and the Bears looked last Monday against Detroit, but that's just me.

As far as how Palmer will affect the Raiders in the coming weeks, I'm sure you're right.  Probably not much.  But they didn't rely heavily on the QB position anyway.  Their strength is the run.  The Forrest Gump teams to death, and although Campbell made few mistakes, he didn't exactly set the world on fire, either.  If they were stuck with a Grossman who gave games away all the time, that would be one thing, but I doubt that's what Palmer will be.  I think for the remainder of the season, he's basically going to be a non-descript QB.  Doesn't make many big plays.  Doesn't run.  Doesn't put up gaudy numbers.  Finds a 10-20 yard gain here and there.  Completes 60% of his passes.  Throws 1 TD each week and minimizes his INT's.  He may not be 2007 Carson Palmer.  But the guy I just outlined isn't a problem for this team as is.  It's what they would get without the deal and Campbell still playing.



Since: Jun 29, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:52 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

 Why are you all mentioning Terrell Pryor in your comments ? Pryor knows he is 4 years away from being a starter much like Aaron Rodgers was when he was playing behind Farve.



Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:14 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I'm not going to say alot of good things about this one!  First off T. Pryor will never be a good QB in this league, I think the third rounder was a waste.  If his fealings are hurt by  getting Palmer, he can wipe his tears with the dollar bills that he got for doing nothing to deserve them.  Carson Palmer is a good pick up, but to big of a price.  He has been good at times, but hasn't lived up to the first round pick he was.  So now you give up another one or two to get him, pretty steep to me.  I just don't see the big picture here!



Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:09 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Im guessing Davis reached out to Brown.  Pleading for him to trade him Palmer.  His dad died, QB out for year, and cant find a suitable replacement for a possible playoff team.  Davis and Brown go way back and are the only two Owners who are also GMs of the team.  Brown probably understands this kid just lost his dad, and has no one to run his team because the NFL won't let him interview potential GMs during the season that work for other teams.

Brown's track record always shows he lets players rot it out on the bench when they try to talk back, demand stuff from him.  Ochocinco, Corey Dillon, Spikes, and Palmer.  He has never granted a player's wish for a trade or a release.  He does not cater to people he pays to work for him. 

Kind of like in that TV show the wire, when the detectives pisses off all the brass and his boss asks him what is the worst place he could end up.  The detective says the river patrol.  Then the next season hes on the river patrol hating his life.  That is how Mike Brown operates.  Do you think he would trade palmer to the state he grew up in, played college ball in and the city his wife grew up in?





Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:18 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

That was AWESOME   Teres Minor ... I totally forgot about Pryor!!!  wow. thats a blow..  poor fool..  kind of not feel baqd for him though.. lol



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:05 pm
 

In related news...

Today, police talked a man down from the Golden Gate Bridge.  Identified as Terrelle Pryor, he was reportedly despondent about someone being hired for his position with the Oakland Raiders, allegedly a local football team.  When he was finally interviewed for this piece, Pryor said the following"

 “Not everybody’s the perfect person in the world,” he said. “I mean everyone jumps off bridges, murders themselves, steals from their boss, steals from me, whatever. I think that people need a second chance, and I’ve always looked up to Carson Palmer, and I always will.”



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:04 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

This is a great pick up for Raiders....  i am also a lil bummed being a Charger fan...  this actully gives the raiders a real chance now.. but it is really how it should be at the end of the season!! game on!..   but than again Carson likes to get SACKED and will probably just get hurt also...    But he is still a passing threat!!    "I wonder if i can get Jacoby Ford back on my fantasy team tonight, wsince i just dropped his ass"????  lol   seriously!! :)  go BOLTS!!!


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