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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.'s Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.

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Since: Sep 20, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:58 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Lot of Raiders Haters hating of course, but any true Raiders fan knows that we just set ourselves up to become dominant.  Bengals say that we got robbed, two first rounders (potentiallY) for a washed up QB at the end of his career.  Granted, it was a great move for the Bengals, they did get great value for a guy they no longer needed and was going to waste, so good move Cincy.  This is why the Raiders did not get robbed:

1) Raiders System - Hue Jackson is all about the run and the win, you dont have to be fancy or put up huge numbers, just hand off to DMC and make the basic throws to your speedy talented receivers.  That is why JC, who all Redskins fans said would suck, put up wins and decent numbers in our system.  Now we get a QB that can not only make those basic throws and good decisions, but can make those difficult throws that no game manager QB weve had before can do.  And everyone seems to be pointing to CP's 20 ints last year.  Wasn't this the year that the Bengals decided that they should become a primarilly passing teams, despite sweeping and winning their division handedly through a power running game the previous year.  Look at what CP did in the year that they won the division through running the ball: 16 GS, 282/466 for 60.5 comp %, 3094 pass yds, 21-13 TD/INT, 83.6 rating.  Very effecient play, nothing that will wow you, but clearly more than enough to get it done.

2) Draft busts, especially 1st Rnd QB - pretty self explanatory, but the Raiders just havent drafted well in the 1st round, and definitely not with QBs (Russell, Marinovich).  Not really concerned that we basically just drafted a guaranteed QB with those 1st rounders and besides, we already got our future franchise QB in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft this year.  Plus we get some compensatory draft picks in the early middle rounds, where we traditionally have found our better talent.

3) Long Term Solution - Ya CP is 32 yrs old, but the Raiders havent had any stability at QB, and as much as I like JC, his play is inconsistent and he is injury prone and not under contract beyond this season.  CP is locked up through 2014 and will be our starter until Terrelle Pryor is groomed into a quality starting QB.

4) Money - Raiders have NO Cap Room whatsoever.  Given the fact that our 1st rounders have generally sucked, its not that bad of a prospect to forgoe having to pay for two unguaranteed players.  I like the roster we have now, we have talent all along both sides of the football, this team is built to win now, and its fine that we are at cap capacity so long as we retain the current talent.

So go ahead and hate Raider Haters, enjoy your 1st rounders Bengals, because the Raiders just became legitimate contenders.

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:49 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Where are the defensive lineman in the picture above?

Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:42 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

TWO first round picks for Palmer?!?!?!  Please tell me this is a joke!!!  Palmer is pretty good, but definitely not, two first round picks good.  The guy will be 33 in a couple months and hasn't even been playing football.  

I have to give the Bengals GM props for fleecing the Raiders on this deal.  The Raiders fans who are excited about this deal now, won't be too happy when the draft hits the next couple years. 

Since: Jul 31, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:39 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Two first rounders for Carson Palmer?  Have the Raiders had leave of their senses?  There's an old adage that states; THERE'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE.  There goes your proof.

Since: Dec 24, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:36 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I thought only the Patriots knew how to milk the Raiders like that. 2 first rounders? Bengals 2014 Champs.

Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:33 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

 I'm sure that the 2 firsts will be Bengal busts, true to form.

Umm not sure if you knew this but I'll fill you in on sit. Do the Bengals make bad moves of course but what team doesn't!.

Since 2005 1st Rd Picks.

05 David Pollack.    &nb
sp;     If not for a neck injury would still be in the league.
06 Johnathan Joseph.   Very good CB that was one of the top free agents last year.
07 Leon Hall.     
;    Having a great year and has come into form.
08 Keith Rivers.    &nbs
p;     &nb
sp; Pretty good LB that has led the team in tackles a few times.
09 Andre Smith.     
;     &nbs
p; Pretty sure him and Whitworth just held studs to 0 tackles and no sacks last week.
10 Jermaine Gresham.   Very good TE and was a leading receiver last year.
11 AJ Green.     
;     &nbs
p;      If I even have to tell you about him well you haven't watched much football this year.

So what is there not to get excited about a trade that is more one-sided at best.

Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:30 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Before you all go getting too excited, Carson Palmer's been out of the game since the end of last season. He will need tim eto work into football shape, and get down timing with his receivers.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:30 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Glad it the trade Happened!!! Its Good for Football!!! I believe Al Davis would have liked this One!!!! Life is Good!!!

Since: Sep 1, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:27 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Watch out for the Bengals in the next couple years! They are making the right moves!

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:27 am

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Brilliant move for the Raiders

Two first rounders for anyone other than a player of the caliber of Walter Payton is not a good move for anyone.

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