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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.


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Comments

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:24 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Brilliant move for the Raiders.  Nobody can succeed on the Bengals, Palmer is going to BLOW UP on the Raiders.  They're a serious playoff team now and a SB contender.  In this league a good QB makes all the difference, and Palmer is definitely a good QB.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:24 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Mike Brown is possibly the worst football team owner...freaking egotistical maniac. It's aggrevating being a Bengals fan. 

Although I love NFL football and follow it religiously, I can't even pretend to know all the intricate details of the Cincinatti Bengals organization and what Mike Brown has or hasn't done throughout the years.  BUT.... this I do know.  I know if you're a Bengals fan and can't give him credit this time, you've lost your mind.  Remember something here, Carson Palmer is the one that quit on the Bengals, the Bengals didn't quit on Carson Palmer.  Palmer was signed to a very lucrative deal the Bengals have honored every penny of so far.  The Bengals were willing to honor the rest of the deal too.... once again, Palmer quit on his team and broke the contract he signed.

For Brown to get one first round pick for sure and possibly a second first round pick the next season for a guy that was ready to officially retire from NFL football, that's a hell of a job Brown did THIS TIME....  people need to chill out and sometimes give credit where credit is due.... THIS TIME Brown did a FANTASTIC job ........ don't let the past cloud your judgement on this deal or going forward.....



Since: Dec 4, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:23 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Not exactly a new way of doing things over in Oakland, huh?  Sounds like a move the old man would have made.



Since: Oct 11, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:18 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

this deal might prove that both sides can lose and lose big in a deal



Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:13 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

And in true form the Bengals will blow those picks with over-rated rookies and still suck lol No matter what happens, you're still the Bungles, deal with it lol  Andy Dalton the future? You better hope not!!



Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:10 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

<span style="color: #0000ff; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">Hopefully they saw him throw and feel his knee and arm troubles are behind him. He is 32 so should have a few good years left in him. I think stockpiling picks is definitely a godd idea but giving up a 1st rounder for a proven veteran is not as bad as people think. 50% of 1st rounders end up being bums anyway so I think a few years of a known talent is better than an unknown one. Course this is all based on Palmer being the old Palmer...



Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:00 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

wow, BAD deal Raiders!!! and why did Mike Brown turn DOWN 2 1st rounders for Ochocinco by the Redskins, but accept this?? oh well. good move for the Bengals



Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:59 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Great deal for Bengals. 

For the Raiders it is a wait and see.  I am not convinced that Palmer is aging.  He has been in a terrible situation for years.  In the NFL QBs can last late into their 30s.  He will be 32 in 2 months.  While he has never been an elite QB, he has shown glimmers of it despite having a terrible, terrible team.  He is a very good QB, and with the Raiders he inherits a very nice WR in Heyward-Bey and a lethal RB (McFadden) on a team that is on the rise.  If they get to the SB in the next 2 years (not out of the question with Colts down and out...they are not the Patriots or Steelers, but upsets can happen in the playoffs) then even with giving up 2 first round picks, the trade is an immediate success.  And with this team's history at the draft, losing the first round picks may not be that bad.  If they get 5 solid years out of Carson it will be even better...of course, by that time they will have realized that Pryor is a bust (or they con some other team into giving them a 3rd round pick for him).




Since: May 8, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:56 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Mike Brown should have a statue in his honor made in Cincy. I can't believe that they got one 1st rounder, let alone a SECOND conditional 1st rounder. WOW! This move screams of something that Al Davis would do, but Raider nation can't blame him for this one. They better hope Palmer lives up to his potential and makes these picks worth it, cause that's a high price for a QB who hasn't really ever won, and has had shoulder issues in the past. I like Palmer, but there's no way I would have paid THIS much to get him.



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:54 am
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

WTF? 2 firsts for this turd? Whats funnier is that the only team that gives the Bengals even a shade of it's dysfunctionality is....Oakland! Welcome to Bengals West Carson. Don't get too excited Begal fans. I'm sure that the 2 firsts will be Bengal busts, true to form.


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