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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.


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Comments

Since: Nov 17, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:04 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Nice comment about Cincinnati...I hope Palmer shoves it up your over rated team's ass twice a year.



Since: Feb 7, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:29 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Why isn't this considered a win - win - win situation.  The Bengals got first round picks, the Raiders got a possible pro bowl level QB (if he comes back and plays like he did a few years ago) and Palmer got out of Cin.  And before you say a 1st round pick is way too expensive for Palmer you might want to ask yourself whether you'd spend a 1st rounder on Palmer or JaMarcus.  I'll take Palmer and try to forget JaMarcus ever existed.



Since: Jul 24, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:27 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

In reality, this was not a "shrewed" move by Mike Brown.  He stubbornly refused to trade Carson Palmer and do what's best for the organization but the Raiders gave them an offer that he couldn't refuse.  If Jason Campbell had not gotten injured this deal would not have gotten done and Palmer would still be sitting.  Now, I suppose you have to give him credit for the net result but lets keep it real here.

As far as Carson Palmer and the Raiders.  It's a nice move for the Raiders.  The primary reason he played so poorly the past few seasons is because the Bengals attempted to become a passing team instead of sticking with their bread and butter.  Not to mention that since Chris Henry passed away, they didn't have a deep threat.  The Raiders are a run first, play action, down the field type of offense.  Perfect for his skill set and will help keep him from getting hit.

They probably paid too much but for right now, they are definately a better team.



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:22 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Some people are saving Mike Brown caved in??? Are you f*ing kidding me? A first and second round pick, possibly being two first round picks for a washed up Palmer who was sitting at home. Mike Brown made everyone up the ante by saying he wouldn't trade him, brilliant move!!

Most of us Bengal Fans would of been happy with a third or fouth round pick for him, but Christmas came early!!!

WHO DEY!!!! 



Since: Feb 28, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:03 pm
 

Al....

I wounder what Al would have done In this situation? I think he would have approved...Commitment To Excellence!!



Since: May 11, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:49 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Someone needs to put Mike Brown in jail. He just committed robbery!



Since: Jun 2, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:36 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

as a charger fan and raider hater i have to admit that this trade has me a little worried......but as a usc fan i am glad to see palmer get out of the smelly depressing arm pit of a city that is cincinnatti.



Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:25 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Zerojr22, I think the word you were looking for was "beat", not bet.  First of all, Marvin Lewis has never been the problem in Cincy.  He was discouraged last season because Brown didn't allow him to make decisions and he (Lewis) wanted to get out of town.  This season, starting with the re-signing of Lewis, Brown vowed to turn over a new leaf and allow Marvin to make personnel decisions.  That was THE ONLY reason Lewis stayed in Cincy.  Secondly, who are you to determine if they passed or ran too much last season?  These people spend their lives studying film, discussing scenarios with other coaches and getting feedback from players.  They couldn't care less what an ignorant NFL fan with what seems to be about a 6th grade education, ie. YOU, has to say on the subject.  Since Marvin took more control of the team, the Bengals: fired irratic OC Bob Bratkowski and replaced him with a west-coast OC in Jay Gruden, got rid of older players / team distractions (Ochocinco, T.O., Tank, Roy Williams, Dhani Jones and now finally, Carson Palmer) and replaced them in the lineup with young players with great potential (Dalton, A.J. Green, Carlos Dunlap, etc.) and the team has comed together to play as a collective group of men with a purpose.  It doesn't matter to me that they have beaten "bad" teams thus far, nor does it matter if they make the playoffs this year.  The Bengals seemed to have the ship turned around and headed in the right direction and Lewis and Brown are the primary reasons for this.  I say kudos to them for what they have accomplished this season.



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:21 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I must have been watching a different carson palmer the last few seasons...because if you ask me, he's looked terrible..



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 9:07 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Wow...looks like I was wrong about a 49ers-Ravens SB...now it's going to be a 49ers-Raiders SB...it's fitting because of what Al Davis did for both franchises and the NFL can honor Al Davis for 2 whole weeks leading up to the SB. Looks like Mike Brown is not a man of his word. He said that he would never trade Palmer. He is a liar, but then you guys already know that as evidenced by his numerous statements about building a contender. Year after year...the Bengals never win more than a handful of games. This year they have already won 4 games. Perhaps Brown's strategy of purposely trying to build a losing team paid off....in the wacky world of sports...crazy things like this DO happen!


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