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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.


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Comments

Since: Nov 16, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:41 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

It was just a matter of time and injury before someone made the right offer to pry Palmer away from Brown. If the same situation arises with Benson, it will probably work again. What a sly way of operating. Best part, Bengals were lucky Dalton worked out and their D has overplayed the expectations. Otherwise, Brown loses.



Since: May 13, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:12 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I'm happy, never was a Campbell fan. Fresh start in new city far away from the Nati for Palmer and the circus run organization there should do him good.

Not much pressure on Palmer with Oakland being able to pound the rock so well.

Just win baby!





Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:04 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

one might suspect that they would be in the hunt for a RB, Trent Richardson would surely be an upgrade
I'm with you on acquiring for the RB position. Ced isn't a youngster, Leonard is a situation RB and I like Bernard Scott alot but not sure about as a featured back. I like bringing in the likes of a Richardson but Benson wouldn't like it; he complained last week of not getting as many of the running carries as he deserved. Bengal nation wouldn't want him to get antsy and pull a "Palmer".

But back to topic, it could very well be a trade close to its worth for OAK if Carson can perform for them like he has shown flashes of. Comments on this thread point to some of his not-so-positives that would have me hoping for the best if was in Raider nation.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:01 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Contrary to what some of you are saying, Mike Brown DID blink first, he DID cave in.  Carson Palmer was sitting out the season, still working out, but sitting out the season.  Mike Brown WENT AGAINST what he said, and made a trade for Palmer.  Palmer, in the end, got what he wanted all along.

You make me laugh out loud... give me a break man.  Mike Brown "blinked"?  Mike Brown just about threw up when Oakland offered a minimum of a 1st and 2nd round pick and possibly 2 first round picks for a guy that was staying home and ready to officially retire. Talk about getting a ton for nothing.  Mike Brown has watched his rookie qb lead the team to a winning record, something Palmer struggled to do after 6 weeks in a season and Brown is watching a Cinci D leading the way defensively.  Mike Brown SAVED MONEY while Palmer was sitting at home LOSING MONEY....

Your argument that Brown loses because he traded him when he said he wouldn't is retarded.  He said that because he never believed anybody would be dumb enough to trade that much for him......  using your logic if somebody would have offered 5 first round picks Brown would have to say no to keep his word.

Retarded thinking to say the least.... 



Since: Aug 22, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:01 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I bet Carson is happy to get out of Cincy. I know i would be with Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown. Marvin Lewis should of been fired years ago. The Bengals last year were awful because Marvin Lewis  thought they were a passing team first. When the season before the Bengals were pretty good, because they were a run team first. Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis have made some awful decisions. You can see why players don't like playing for them. Last season Carson was pissed off, because all the coaches did was pass. The Bengals had a good season two years ago,because they ran more. Last year they passed way too much. They go out a pick up Owens. which was a stupid move. Stupid moves are made alot with Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown. I give them alittle credit for picking up Dalton and Green,but how long will they last there in Cincy. For some reason Mike Brown will not fire Marvin Lewis. As for the Bengals being 4-2 this year. Look at who they bet. The Bills were the only average team they bet. The rest of there wins were teams that suck. Browns,Colts, and Jags. Bengals lost to the Broncos who suck so bad. Marvin Lewis is lucky the Bengals have a week schedule this year.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:57 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Bro, I'd say that's some wishful thinking there.  You might win powerball before this stuff starts happening.  KC sucks.  Pretty bad.  They squeaked by a lousy Minnesota team, and a downright awful Indy team.  They kept it close against SD, I'll give ya that, but they were blown out hard besides.  What did they put up, a trey, on the Lions?  Their passing game is so butt and they're a bad team.  Reality.

As far as Oakland going 3-3, it's possible.... but I doubt it.  I'd say that's more likely over their last 6, but the next 6?  Nah.  Next 6 games are KC, DEN, SD, MIN, CHI, MIA.   Chicago could beat them but have shown glimpses of being off.  San Diego quite possibly could beat them but also have shown themselves to have trouble holding off even weak teams.  But the odds that both do AND either of KC, DEN, MIN, or MIA?  I guess it's possible, but not probable at all.  Definitely a better shot that that happens though then KC being 4-3 in 2 weeks, I know that.

I'm not kidding when I say you shouldn't work for a living, you should gamble.  I do gamble, and I do ok at it but since I know better and know nothing in sports gambling is automatic I keep working for a living.   KC is a whopping 4 point underdog in vegas right now for their game in Oakland.  As for Sandiego they might be favoured in Vegas to win in Oakland, either way nobody will be favoured by more then 3 points in that game.  Oakland will be an underdog probably at least twice over the next 6 weeks and probably never be more then a 4 or 5 point favourite, with the only exception maybe being the Denver game coming up soon.  

If you see Oakland's upcoming games as easy wins, I need your email address and some of your expert picks because if those games are easy, you could help me profit a fortune this football season.

But I doubt you can help me do that.... because there is no such thing as easy.   Keep in mind there is no way that Carson Palmer can be effective for Oakland for a little while.  The guy didn't get a training camp, he still has to learn the Raiders playbook and still has to get accustomed to his new teammates, create some chemistry, etc.   For now, you have Kyle Boller, a rotten quarterback... just garbage leading the way.

For the record I'm taking KC on the money line this Sunday in Oakland..... 



Since: Oct 16, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:52 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Last night I wrote that Carson Palmer would be a good fit for the Raiders, now let me tell you why. Carson Palmer helps us continue to win and possibly make the playoffs this year. Jason Campbell was mediocre on his best day and Palmer is a huge upgrade. We didn't have a lot of draft picks anyway but we do have some compensatory picks coming. Maybe we overvalued Carson Palmer but at least we can win some games immediately and now Terelle Pryor has a mentor. Let me put a spin on the words of Al Davis and say Just Win NOW Baby!



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:47 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I will keep this short and to the point.

Contrary to what some of you are saying, Mike Brown DID blink first, he DID cave in.  Carson Palmer was sitting out the season, still working out, but sitting out the season.  Mike Brown WENT AGAINST what he said, and made a trade for Palmer.  Palmer, in the end, got what he wanted all along.

If I were to guess what Palmer may have told some of his friends, it would be "who's the bit** now??" about this situation.    



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:44 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

I dont wanna hear anybody dis the Cutler trade after this fiasco.  A first round pick!  For Palmer?  You have got to be kidding me.  His age alone isnt worth a 3rd rounder.  Plus he hasnt exactly been lighting it up the past couple of years.  I wont blame this on the passing of Al Davis cause he deffinetly would have made this deal but its still a horrible one none the less.  Congrats to the Bengals on cleaning up!



Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 7:27 pm
 

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

No top 150 picks in this next draft because there is nothing they need from it


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