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Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:18 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 1:57 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

One of the names I mentioned in Sorting the Sunday Pile for the Raiders in their search to replace Jason Campbell was retired Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer. But even though the Raiders were reportedly trying to get Palmer, it seemed a highly unlikely end result, given the stubborn nature of Cincy owner Mike Brown.

But Oakland found a way to pry Palmer away from the Bengals, dealing a 2012 first-round draft pick and a 2013 conditional first-round pick to the Bengals for the no-longer-retired quarterback. Reports indicate that the 2013 conditional pick is a first-round pick only if Oakland wins at least one playoff game.'s Mike Freeman confirms that the trade -- as originally reported by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports -- is a done deal. Glazer noted that Hue Jackson's close relationship with Brown -- Jackson was the former wide receivers coach in Cincinnati -- helped grease the wheels.

What likely helped grease the wheels more? The first-round draft pick that the Raiders gave the Bengals ... because they had to. As Ryan noted yesterday, the Raiders aren't exactly stocked with draft picks these days, having already given up their second-, fourth- and seventh-round picks in trades, and used their third-round pick on Terrelle Pryor.

Palmer to the Raiders

In other words, the Raiders only had one real pick of value in 2012 to give up, and they were apparently willing to move it in order to make themselves a contender for the remainder of the year.

More than anything, though, Mike Brown deserves a tremendous round of applause for absolutely crushing this scenario with Palmer. He called the quarterback's bluff, refused to deal the quarterback, landed a new franchise guy in Andy Dalton, and then when a team got really desperate, received two first-round picks in exchange.

The conditional pick is likely something that involves the Raiders making the postseason and/or riding Palmer to the Super Bowl; at least one would hope anyway. Otherwise, Oakland has, once again, undervalued draft picks.

It's worth noting, though, that the Raiders are anticipating a slew of compensatory draft picks in 2012, because free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery and Thomas Howard all departed the Bay Area.

Also worth noting: Jason Campbell's time as a Raider is now finished, for all intents and purposes. He's a free agent after this season and given the committment Oakland gave to Palmer plus Campbell's injury, it's hard to imagine him playing another snap for Oakland.

They are, at least now, all in on Carson Palmer.

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Since: Mar 15, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 6:24 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Al Davis is gone, may he rest in peace, but the senility continues in Oakland.

Since: Sep 10, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 6:20 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

i could see parting with a 3rd round draft pick at the most,  but 2 first round picks?    i guess the raiders are more interested in saving $ than building a perennial winner?   poor raider fans.

Since: Apr 5, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 6:16 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

So how did Mike Brown stick to his guns? He said Carson would sit at home and he wouldn't trade him- which he did, to a 4-2 Raider team that lost a close last second game to the Bills (not such a bad squad themselves) and lost to the Patriots.

Also, I don't understand how the Raiders are losers. Sure, first round picks are valuable but in reality, they gave up one. If Carson leads OAK to a playoff win, then the Raiders will be more then happy to deal with that and that 2nd first round pick will be almost an early 2nd round pick.

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 6:12 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

No way the Bengals would have received two first round picks for Palmer over the summer. This is the best deal they could have hoped for in any scenario. The Raiders were desperate to save a promising season and realized that without making a deal their playoff hopes would be slim at best. Mike Brown stumbled into a great opportunity to better the franchise, otherwise Palmer stays at home till March or later.

Since: Aug 25, 2009
Posted on: October 18, 2011 6:09 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Raiders....   Can't fix stupid.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:55 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Palmer would have been worth more back in the summer, when he told Mike Brown his intentions. Since Al Davis died, the Raiders ship may be without a "captain" temporarily, but I dount Plamer is too concerned....any captain would be better than one content to sail in cirlces forever, like Mike Brown.  

Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:40 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

would have rather see him come to Miami and hope to get some consistency at the QB position, but at the price of 2 potential 1st rounders....ehhh the Raiders can deal with that.  Glad both parties ended up getting what they wanted

Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:36 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Bengals came out smelling like a rose in this trade. I don't know who the Raiders would've picked in the draft but that doesn't matter now. The Raiders spent or traded all their draft pick in 2012 for this year alone and also got off to an early start giving 2013 draft picks away. God, I love Oakland. 

Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:35 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

Mike Brown played this brilliantly, maybe his greatest move in a very dubious career, to get potentially two 1st rounders for Palmer...brilliant. For the first time ever I applaud you Mike Brown, now retire before you screw it up.

Kudos to Carson Palmer as well, you stuck to your guns and got out of a bad situation. However, landing in Oakland? Not so sure that is a huge upgrade in organization but we'll see. If Palmer has any arm strength left, and he showed some good arm strength in that game against the Chargers late last season, then he is the best QB in silver and black since Rich Gannon.

Now to reality. The Raiders are 4-2, its going to take Palmer a few weeks to acclimate, no training camp, and its week 7 next week. The Raiders probably go 3-3 putting them at 7-5 with 4 games left...4 must wins in order to land a wild card spot. That is a tough spot for a QB that is looking at the playbook for the first time right now.

I also think the Chargers and Raiders fans are sorely underestimating the Chiefs. They still have a decent team and appear to be re-grouping, sure Coach Haley will bonehead it up and hold them back but they are sitting in prime spoiler role right now. If they beat Oakland on Sunday the Raiders are 4-3 and the Chiefs are 3-3, right back in it. Chargers fans are more deluded, chalking up a victory in Kansas City on Monday night the following week. Sorry but that is very unlikely, nobody trollops into Kansas City on a Monday night and walks away with an easy victory. If Chiefs win that game they are 4-3 and provided the Chargers beat the Jets this week the Chargers would also be 4-3.

This division is wide open if you ask me.

Since: May 12, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 5:28 pm

Bengals trade Palmer to Raiders for 1st rounders

This is an exciting trade for the Raiders!!  As a long time Raiders fan, I cannot remember a deal that has been like this in many, many seasons. 

Palmer is not young and may have a bit of rust on him.  He might not lead the Raiders to the promised land (i.e. post season) this or any other season.  But what this deal says is that the Raiders are willing to do what it takes to win.  Raiders have a young team and may not need more young players, so I don't mind giving up two firsts (especially if they make the playoffs).  The Raiders have had a couple of solid drafts over the past two seasons but have THE WORST reputation when it comes to drafting, so again, not fazed by losing two picks. 

Ultimately, this is a deadline deal that tells me the Raiders want to win.  I like it and think it is a good deal.  I HOPE it turns out to be a good move for the Raiders.

PS-I disagree strongly with this writer and think Campbell can (and will) come back to compete next season for the job that he was doing well in.  Do not count him out yet.

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