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Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:27 am
 
Posted by Will Brinson



Now that Carson Palmer day is over and he's finally found a home in Oakland, it's time to solemnly reflect on the importance of this deal and wonder whether or not Palmer can step in and start for the Raiders right away.

Or we could break down Hue Jackson calling it the "greatest trade in football." What?

"We were able to put together what I think is probably the greatest trade in football, in my opinion," Jackson said. "Obviously, I think everybody knows that we needed to go out and address our quarterback situation."

OK, look it was a great trade. And I don't mean "we bamboozled a team and got superb value" great, or "the biggest names in football involved blockbuster" great. I mean "where the hell did that come from and man that's crazy but they gave up WHAT?" great. That's great for the media and fans and blowing up everyone's Tuesday, but I'm not sure it's great for the Raiders.



We'll know that when Palmer gets on the field. Which leads us to wonder when, exactly, that will happen. Because Jackson was asked Tuesday if Palmer could start as early as Sunday versus the Chiefs, but declined to give an answer.

Palmer to the Raiders

"You think I’m going to tell you that right now?" Jackson said to reporters on Tuesday. "You know me a little bit better than that. OK, you do try. All you guys try; I’m not going to let that out of the bag just yet but you guys be ready for anything from me. I think you know that.

"We’ll see as we continue to move through the week exactly where we are."

This weekend is a perfect time for the Raiders to have an impossible decision -- the Chiefs are 2-3, thanks to wins against the Colts and Vikings, are now just 2-3, and need this game badly to get back into the AFC West race.

Playing Kyle Boller will benefit them, and they'll probably end up getting to play against him -- expecting Palmer to be ready to start five days after being traded to Oakland just seems too crazy to be real.

But we also said the same thing about the Raiders trading for him in the first place.

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Since: Jul 26, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 6:02 pm
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

I'm a Bengal fan so I love this trade. Palmer was never gonna play for the Bengals again. They didn't need him now that Dalton is doing well. We have as many wins in Dalton's first six games as Palmer had all last year with Chad and TO as his receivers. We got one or possibly two #1s for a guy who didn't even want to be here. I wish him and the Raiders lots of success because that determines whether we get one or two first-rounders.



Since: Apr 6, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 5:58 pm
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

As a Bengal fan for 20 years..News for the Raiders...Palmer Can no longer play!!!! Injuries have taken him out of his game...



Since: Jun 30, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 5:34 pm
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

This is a great trade or a bad trade for the raiders depending on how you look at it... 100% helps them now no question and i do think the raiders are a playoff team now (and possibly b4 with campbell). There is a lot of talent there if they wouldnt have lost Nnamdi they would have one of the best defenses. They have arguably the best running back right now. However, they gave up way too much for a guy that was never gonna play for the bengals again. As a Bengal fan I thought best case scenario was a 2nd rounder. Im so happy Mike Brown finally didnt try to bury his own team. Phenomenal trade for the Bengals anyway you look at it. They are 4-2 now and Dalton cant throw the ball as far as Palmer but the kid is a gamer. Great job Bengals!! find a way to get richardson and and a good left guard.



Since: Mar 24, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 5:32 pm
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

This weekend is a perfect time for the Raiders to have an impossible decision -- the Chiefs are 2-3, thanks to wins against the and , are now just 2-3, and need this game badly to get back into the AFC West race
What exactly does this sentence mean ? Master of the language Brinson has done it again.

Anyone else notice that Palmer looks a little like Opie. "Ah shucks Pa, I can QB that there team better better than the other feller".




Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 4:53 pm
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

The greatness of this trade can be summed up in two words: Andy Dalton.  The Bengals are rid of a guy who was never going to play another down for them and if the picks in the next draft or two pan out...the trade may be great...for the Bengals.  The Raider players can't trust Palmer to be there for them since Carson's mantra is "I'm done when I'm done here."  Funny that a guy as smart as Prisco thinks this makes the Raiders a play-off team.  Poor Al Davis is spinning in his grave saying, "Now that I am out of the picture I thought they might improve.  Boy was I wrong."



Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:48 pm
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

A single first round pick for Palmer would have been a stretch.  A first round pick plus a second or even third round pick would be a great haul...if they end up getting 2 firsts that is laughably insane.  And that doesn't even take into consideration the fact that the raiders already had few picks in the upcoming draft.  Now they won't pick until the 5th round.  This was a terrible trade.  The team is not there yet, and doesn't have a 2 year window for making the super bowl, just needing that one last piece.  This is going to set them back bigtime in 3-4 years when they have zero new talent taking the field.
Do you honestly think Carson Palmer is much worse than Jay Cutler? I'd rate them about the same, only thing Cutler has is a few more years. Considering what Chicago gave up for Cutler, Palmer's almost a bargain, especially considering it's a midseason trade. Saying Palmer's only worth a first rounder is laughable.

And you do realize this is how the Raiders operate, right? Historically, they're a team built on veterans, not young players. If Carson Palmer turns out to be a success, Raiders stay competitive for another 5+ years.


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Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:48 pm
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Since: Apr 11, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:44 pm
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Full disclosure: I'm a Bengals fan, and I think Cincinnati got a great deal here. That said, I also would love to see Carson light it up for Oakland so that this deal works for them as well. Carson delivered a lot to the Bengals organization that had been struggling mightily for over a decade. I have great respect for that. I'd love for him to prove the doubters wrong and help lead the Raiders to a few wins in the playoffs. Of curse, I'd also love to see the Bengals land some great talent with the picks that they acquired in this deal. These kinds of trades are fun as a fan, and we'll only see more of them if they are working out for both sides of the table.



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