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Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:27 am
Posted by Will Brinson

Now that Carson Palmer day is over and he's finally found a home in Oakland, it's time to solemnly reflect on the importance of this deal and wonder whether or not Palmer can step in and start for the Raiders right away.

Or we could break down Hue Jackson calling it the "greatest trade in football." What?

"We were able to put together what I think is probably the greatest trade in football, in my opinion," Jackson said. "Obviously, I think everybody knows that we needed to go out and address our quarterback situation."

OK, look it was a great trade. And I don't mean "we bamboozled a team and got superb value" great, or "the biggest names in football involved blockbuster" great. I mean "where the hell did that come from and man that's crazy but they gave up WHAT?" great. That's great for the media and fans and blowing up everyone's Tuesday, but I'm not sure it's great for the Raiders.

We'll know that when Palmer gets on the field. Which leads us to wonder when, exactly, that will happen. Because Jackson was asked Tuesday if Palmer could start as early as Sunday versus the Chiefs, but declined to give an answer.

Palmer to the Raiders

"You think I’m going to tell you that right now?" Jackson said to reporters on Tuesday. "You know me a little bit better than that. OK, you do try. All you guys try; I’m not going to let that out of the bag just yet but you guys be ready for anything from me. I think you know that.

"We’ll see as we continue to move through the week exactly where we are."

This weekend is a perfect time for the Raiders to have an impossible decision -- the Chiefs are 2-3, thanks to wins against the Colts and Vikings, are now just 2-3, and need this game badly to get back into the AFC West race.

Playing Kyle Boller will benefit them, and they'll probably end up getting to play against him -- expecting Palmer to be ready to start five days after being traded to Oakland just seems too crazy to be real.

But we also said the same thing about the Raiders trading for him in the first place.

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Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:53 pm
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Since: Apr 29, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:50 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

I mean Jordan**

Since: Apr 29, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:48 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

So when are the Raiders picking up Jesse Palmer from Hyvee?

Since: Jan 15, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:35 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Palmer starting, fine, but there is no way this is the greatest trade in any right, espcially since the Bengals got the better end of the deal...

Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:30 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

JBank - Have to correct you. Aikman and Irvin were already Cowboys when the deal was made. That trade brought Emmitt (like you mentioned), Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith, Darren Woodson and Isssiac Holt.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:19 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

I disagree swiftwings88.  The greatest trade ever in football was the Dallas Cowboys trading Herschel Walker to the Minnesota Vikings.  That single move brought the cowboys Aikman, Smith and Irvin and 3 championships.

Since: Jul 17, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:13 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Carson was a top 5 QB in the league, and is much more reliable then McNabb has been.

WAS is the key word here.  I'm guessing that most Cincy fans will tell you that he hasn't been the same since Kimo hit him in the playoff game against the Steelers.  I think that was 6 years ago now. 

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 1:00 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Palmer is going to great in Oakland. He has some awesome young talent to work with. May have the fastest WR's out there. Hue knows what he is working with. Marvin Lewis is a terrible coach. Cincy will fall apart soon and who will they blame then?
TruNYYFan, I agree Palmer will do fine at Oakland - if he has protection from his O line. He is a very accurate passer when his recievers run the proper route. Part of his problem at Cincy was a bad offensive coordinator and a poor offensive line. His other problems (unfortunately for him and fortunately for the Bengals) left when he did. I question his scrambling ability and durability but other than that, he will be good for the Raiders.

Marvin Lewis is not a Belichick or Lombardi but he is not a terrible coach. He has a very young team that seem to be playing together as a team and are, at least now, listening to him. The distractions are gone - or so it appears. With a good defensive coordinator and a new offensive coordinator the future looks bright. Will they stumble with a rookie QB and a young supporting staff, probably at some time as any young team would. Let's not forget that the Bengals were picked to be at the bottom of the barrel prior to the season start. Right now I like their outlook as compared to a proven team like the Colts.

Mike Brown stunned a lot of Bengal fans with this trade and has given the faithful hope that the rebuilding process is in earnest. As long as key injuries don't crop up the Bengals will do fine also.

Greatest trade, Nah! But a good trade for both franchises. Wishful thinking? Bengals to meet the Raiders in the AFC Championship game. SWEEEEET!

Since: Aug 22, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:33 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

The Raiders have set themsevles up for a playoff run this year, but leveraged the franchise for the future. Successfull NFL franchises are built through the draft, see Patriots, Steelers, Packers. Carson Palmer can play, but has never been the same after his knee injury. I don't see Palmer setting the NFL on fire, but he should be better than anything else they have on the roster at QB.

Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:29 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

That was the first thing that caught my mind , right as I heard about us getting Carson.  I couldnt beleive that Denver didnt get anything at all for Orton.  I also agree that they could have got at least a 4th for him.  Hell, if we couldnt get Carson, I would have hoped the Raiders would have gave up a 4th (If we had one) for him.  I love all these people talking about how we gave up to much for him, that is still yet to be determined.  You sure as hell cant compare him to when McNabb got traded from Phili for a 2nd and 4th, saying that Carson was worth the same.  Carson was a top 5 QB in the league, and is much more reliable then McNabb has been.  I guess it is like Conservatives and Liberals, they just hate on each other no matter what happens.  I have noticed that Raider Hatters have such pasion when they speak about how much the hate the Raiders and Al Davis (RIP), unlike any other team.  The only comparible example is maybe like a Red Sox fan bagging the Yankees.  Its all good though, I am more then happy to give up that second 1st rounder if Carson and McFadden can win us a AFC Title game.  Just Win Baby!

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