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Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:27 am
Posted by Will Brinson

Now that Carson Palmer day is over and he's finally found a home in Oakland, it's time to solemnly reflect on the importance of this deal and wonder whether or not Palmer can step in and start for the Raiders right away.

Or we could break down Hue Jackson calling it the "greatest trade in football." What?

"We were able to put together what I think is probably the greatest trade in football, in my opinion," Jackson said. "Obviously, I think everybody knows that we needed to go out and address our quarterback situation."

OK, look it was a great trade. And I don't mean "we bamboozled a team and got superb value" great, or "the biggest names in football involved blockbuster" great. I mean "where the hell did that come from and man that's crazy but they gave up WHAT?" great. That's great for the media and fans and blowing up everyone's Tuesday, but I'm not sure it's great for the Raiders.

We'll know that when Palmer gets on the field. Which leads us to wonder when, exactly, that will happen. Because Jackson was asked Tuesday if Palmer could start as early as Sunday versus the Chiefs, but declined to give an answer.

Palmer to the Raiders

"You think I’m going to tell you that right now?" Jackson said to reporters on Tuesday. "You know me a little bit better than that. OK, you do try. All you guys try; I’m not going to let that out of the bag just yet but you guys be ready for anything from me. I think you know that.

"We’ll see as we continue to move through the week exactly where we are."

This weekend is a perfect time for the Raiders to have an impossible decision -- the Chiefs are 2-3, thanks to wins against the Colts and Vikings, are now just 2-3, and need this game badly to get back into the AFC West race.

Playing Kyle Boller will benefit them, and they'll probably end up getting to play against him -- expecting Palmer to be ready to start five days after being traded to Oakland just seems too crazy to be real.

But we also said the same thing about the Raiders trading for him in the first place.

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Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:25 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

The Raider haters yet again come out in droves. Getting a veteran QB for two first rounders is a GREAT deal. Look at what Chicago gave up for Jay Cutler, who isn't some amazing QB either. And one of the first rounders isn't even guaranteed. Raiders either get far in the playoffs, or they only part with one draft pick. Either way, it's an excellent trade by the Raiders.

Keep on hating though. I remember people hating on the Raiders for the Richard Seymour trade, another trade that went in the Raiders' favor.

Since: Oct 13, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:21 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

They do not have Jason Campbell coming back next year, he was offered a one year extension for this year, come on man.

Since: Feb 28, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:14 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Is everyone forgetting that Carson Palmer played pretty bad the last two years?
I have no clue what the Raiders were thinking. I can see one 1st round pick, but 2 is just crazy. Especially when this team is not certain of making the playoffs this year, they have Jason Campbell coming back next year, and they'll have no picks in the 1st four rounds of the draft next year. Sounds desperate.

Since: Dec 23, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:08 pm

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Sorry greatest trade ever is still Ron Wolf sending a 1st rounder for Brett Favre.  It completely saved the Packers.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:52 am

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Idiots of the year award goes to:  THE DENVER BRONCOS FRONT OFFICE.  How in the world do you not all but give away Kyle Orton????  You benched him because the whole town hates him...he isn't working out there in Denver...GET RID OF HIM!!!  A fourth rounder is more than enough for this guy.  Do you hate Brady Quinn that much???  If you promote Tebow from 4th string to starter over Quinn, why keep Quinn???  Just plain stupid.  Either deal Orton or can they afford to keep all that salary on their team wasted on the bench???  They could be upgrading their o line or getting a real receiver with that a Raider fan, I'm glad they aren't, but if you are a Denver fan you have to wonder why the higher ups in Denver are making such bone head personnel moves...

Since: Mar 13, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:32 am

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

It was definently the greatest trade in Bengals history for sure. Lets see with Carson last year 4-12 this year without him 4-2. See ya pussy.

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:26 am

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

So wahat happens when Cincy loses 3 out of the next 4 weeks? if not all 4. Who you going to blame?

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:13 am

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

He said greatest trade in football, not greatest trade ever, big difference.  It is the biggest trade in football right now.  As a Viking fan, I know the Herschel trade well, and that backfired for certain, but I think his comment was more in the moment and not over the history of the league.

He has stuck his neck out there on this one, the 2nd 1st rounder is only guaranteed if they get to the AFC Championship game, which is a tall order, but if they make it that far Carson would have played very well and the deal would be worth it.  Benefit is that teams will respect the pass more now, and McFadden could have even bigger running lanes.

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:08 am

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

All you have to do to figure out who won the trade is answer one simple question:

Within the next 5 years which team is more likely to win playoff games and/or Super Bowls?

To me the answer is clearly the Raiders.  So they win the trade.  If you're trading the 32nd pick 2 years in a row do you really care?

Now the odds are it won't be the 32nd pick.  It will however likely be at worst the 25th pick.  If it's any lower than that it won't be a 1st rounder in 2013, as it's only a 1st rounder if the Raiders win a playoff game. 

In this league you're not getting anywhere without a franchise QB.  The Jets are somewhat of an anomoly with their scrub QB but all they could do was make the AFCC game.  Palmer is clearly better and can give them a legit shot now, most people consider him at least having the potential to be a top 10 QB.  You need that.

Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:02 am

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Remember when Mike Ditka spent his entire lot of 1999 draft picks PLUS a 1st and a 3rd the FOLLOWING YEAR for Ricky Williams, and thought he was SO SLY?  
This reminds me of that.   

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