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Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:27 am
 
Posted by Will Brinson



Now that Carson Palmer day is over and he's finally found a home in Oakland, it's time to solemnly reflect on the importance of this deal and wonder whether or not Palmer can step in and start for the Raiders right away.

Or we could break down Hue Jackson calling it the "greatest trade in football." What?

"We were able to put together what I think is probably the greatest trade in football, in my opinion," Jackson said. "Obviously, I think everybody knows that we needed to go out and address our quarterback situation."

OK, look it was a great trade. And I don't mean "we bamboozled a team and got superb value" great, or "the biggest names in football involved blockbuster" great. I mean "where the hell did that come from and man that's crazy but they gave up WHAT?" great. That's great for the media and fans and blowing up everyone's Tuesday, but I'm not sure it's great for the Raiders.



We'll know that when Palmer gets on the field. Which leads us to wonder when, exactly, that will happen. Because Jackson was asked Tuesday if Palmer could start as early as Sunday versus the Chiefs, but declined to give an answer.

Palmer to the Raiders

"You think I’m going to tell you that right now?" Jackson said to reporters on Tuesday. "You know me a little bit better than that. OK, you do try. All you guys try; I’m not going to let that out of the bag just yet but you guys be ready for anything from me. I think you know that.

"We’ll see as we continue to move through the week exactly where we are."

This weekend is a perfect time for the Raiders to have an impossible decision -- the Chiefs are 2-3, thanks to wins against the Colts and Vikings, are now just 2-3, and need this game badly to get back into the AFC West race.

Playing Kyle Boller will benefit them, and they'll probably end up getting to play against him -- expecting Palmer to be ready to start five days after being traded to Oakland just seems too crazy to be real.

But we also said the same thing about the Raiders trading for him in the first place.

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Comments

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:57 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Sorry "Greates Trade Ever" is still Dallas unloading Herschel Walker on the Vikings.  Just saying.



Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:55 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

With Campbell, Palmer, Pryor & Boller, the Raider's STILL do not have a solid 'franchise quarterback' that they can say, "here's our guy for the next 8-10 years."  All the draft picks & cash laid out for this group of 4 quarterbacks, and you STILL don't have a 'franchise quarterback"... I'm sorry, but I wouldn't be real excited about that if I'm Raider Nation.  But, shine the best light on it you can;  at least Palmer gives you hope for this year, until a couple of losses turned in by a rusty Palmer puts you around .500 for the season and things don't look so promising... THEN you can start to panic.   



Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:55 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

CAN'T WAIT TO LAUGH AT ALL THE RAIDER HATERS.... Palmer is going to great in Oakland. He has some awesome young talent to work with. May have the fastest WR's out there. Hue knows what he is working with. Marvin Lewis is a terrible coach. Cincy will fall apart soon and who will they blame then?



Since: Sep 20, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:49 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Wait, in your opening sentence you call him a "QB with diminishing skills, who has NOT proven to be a winner..." and THEN you go on to call him out for not wanting to be a "marquis player." So which is it? Is he a washed up has been or a marquis player? And by "proven not to be a winner", you're clearly not referencing his back to back 4000+ yard seasons (only 3 seasons ago,) and repeat appearances in the playoffs. No, I didn't think so. 
I think the Raiders are gambling on "somewhere in between", which in Hue's opinion is better than Boller, and worth 2 first round draft picks. I happen to believe he'll prove his worth on this team and add the veteran savvy and skill for his position that this team has needed since last year. And by the way, don't feel sorry for us, Bronco fan. We'll be in the playoffs (with or without Palmer, really) while your team wallows under the "leadership" of Kyle Orton, who can barely find his way out from center on most plays. Traitor or not, I'd take Palmer over your ENTIRE TEAM 99 times out of 100. 
RIP Mr. Davis. Just Win, Baby!



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:32 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

First of all, the paragraph above may be one of the worst written published paragraphs ever
Bearish1,

Not to call you out as I know what you were trying to say about the article -- Read what you just wrote though -- I think what you 'meant' to say is "one of the worst pubulished paragraphs ever written".  



Since: Feb 23, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:30 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade......LMAO
it's more like the DUMBEST trade,

 You idiot, you traded TWO 1st rd  draft picks for a traitor and a QB that hasn't played since last yr... Kudo's Hue, you are the dumbest Waider coach in history!!!
Things are just getting better and better in Oakland.... LMAO



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:23 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

As long as McFadden and Bush can run the ball effectively, Palmer can step in now with a limited amount of plays and do fine. Jason Campbell has a good deep ball, but has always stuggled with the short/underneath stuff. He has probably only completed 2 or 3 screen passes in his career...Carson can hand-off all game, and then go play-action down the field with no trouble. I would just worry about his body not being in football shape and taking a hit in the pocket. Oakland's not known for their protection or Campbell would still be back there. Palmer is definitely an upgrade over Boller for sure...Just win NOW, baby.



Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:19 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

Congrats to you, Raiders.  You just picked up a QB with diminished/diminishing skills, who has NOT proven to be a winner, who quit on his teammates as much as he quit on the ownership.  Have you forgotten that he didn't "retire" for more money?  He had millions in the bank and told everybody about it.  He "retired" rather than continue to be the marquis player on a pathetic team . . . a team made more pathetic by his feeble play. He "retired" because he couldn't, on principle, work for Mike Brown any longer. Hey, CP, I've got a secret to share:  Brown's millions spend just as well as Al Davis' millions do!  And as cheap as Brown is, he always paid you well.

Do you think the players in the Bengals lockerroom felt like losers?  They actually thought they were as good at their jobs as Palmer was at his! But they didn't give up on the Bengals.  They were professionals.

So, Raider players, how excited are you to have your "leader" bring to the job his penchant for not only throwing his teammates under the bus, but for actually pulling them from their beds in their homes to drag them to the curb to throw them under the bus?

I'm a Bronco fan with a natural hatred of all things Raiders, but I actually feel a little sorry for them.  They spent big to get a traitor.  And I know Mike Brown is a jerk who consistently does weird things, but you, CP, have made even him a sympathetic figure. 



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:19 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

In previous photos as a Bengals Palmer had red hair and a pirate beard.....at the Raiders press conference he looks more like a normal person. I suppose playing for the Bungles will surely change one's outlook on life. He looks reenergized in playing for the Raiders or any other team that's not as incompetent as the Bengals (should have traded Palmer before the season...could have gotten more than Kolb), Redskins (Dan Snyder is like Pete Angelos in that both hire "quality" men but do not let them make the tough decisions, and they also like to meddle), Colts (never groomed a capable backup to Manning), Chargers (hiring Norv Turner as HC was stupid!).

I am glad to finally see many Raider fans acknowledge how terrible Jason Campbell is. He was never that good and yet many Raider fans would not admit it. But now they are...after losing Campbell for the season. Raider fans can be so weird sometime....make that most of the time. 

If Palmer does as well as expected with the Raiders then Pete "What's Your Deal?" Carroll will regret not getting his former player. Of course thus far Carroll has shown a disdain for most of the players he has coached and instead has drafted, signed or traded for every Cal and Stanford player he can get his hands on. Looks like PC's system only works in college....in the NFL...not so much!!!



Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:19 am
 

Hue: Palmer 'greatest trade,' maybe starting?

OK, look it was a great trade. And I don't mean "we bamboozled a team and got superb value" great, or "the biggest names in football involved blockbuster" great. I mean "where the hell did that come from and man that's crazy but they gave up WHAT?" great. That's great for the media and fans and blowing up everyone's Tuesday, but I'm not sure it's great for the Raiders.
First of all, the paragraph above may be one of the worst written published paragraphs ever. I know the internet is open to everyone, but if you are going to be a website blogger - take a writing class or something, and try a little harder not to just ramble away with whatever just went through your scrambled head.

As for the trade itself, this is reminiscent of the Jay Cutler trade from the Broncos to the Bears, in which the Bears gave up two number ones and Kyle Orton for Cutler. In order to judge the trade, you need to look at the perspective of the team in need of the quarterback - which in the current NFL is a must have if you want to compete. The days of a Trent Dilfer or Mark Rypien leading a strong defensive, running team to glory seems to have passed - pay attention to that Jets fans. Cutler came to the Bears to end a string of futile QB offerings, and although the Bears haven't taken full advantage of his talents by giving him any stud targets or an O-Line, he has quickly become the best NFL QB talent in Chicago in 50 years. Palmer doesn't need to be the best QB Oakland has had in 50 years, but he will be a huge step up from Boller, or heaven forbid, Terrell Pryor. The Raiders have an opportunity to step to the top of their division with the Chargers, and Palmer is the type of talent that will keep them there for awhile. Great Trade!


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