Blog Entry

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Posted on: November 1, 2011 12:51 am
Edited on: November 1, 2011 5:36 am
Posted by Will Brinson

No one beat the San Diego Chargers worse in 2010 than the San Diego Chargers. And in an ugly 23-20 overtime loss in Kansas City on Monday, many of the problems that have plagued San Diego during Norv Turner's tenure emerged in typically ugly fashion.

None was more ugly than what happened with 1:03 remaining on the clock, the Chiefs out of timeouts and the Chargers well within kicker Nick Novak's range for a game-winning field goal. Philip Rivers then fumbled a snap right before taking a knee.

"Worst day ever," Rivers mouthed from the sidelines after the fumble.

That's an understandable feeling from Rivers, who's struggled mightly this season. He threw two picks -- one his fault and another on a tipped pass -- but actually straightened up to produce a pretty solid line (26/41, 369 yards) despite not throwing any touchdown passes.

San Diego finished with 12 penalties for 105 yards, which was three more yards than the Chargers had rushing. They fumbled three balls and lost two of them, and gave away the two picks.

The Chiefs weren't much better, but they ultimately just shot themselves in the foot fewer times.

"It was not pretty by any stretch of the imagination," Todd Haley said.

No it was not. Matt Cassel looked pretty bad, the Chiefs didn't have much of a rushing game to speak of until a nice late drive that featured a touchdown from Jackie Battle.

None of this is to take away from Kansas City because, my goodness, they're tied for first place in the AFC West all of a sudden. This is unbelievable, given that they looked like one of the worst teams in the NFL three weeks into the season. And they're getting ready to welcome the 0-fer Dolphins to Arrowhead, while the Raiders match up against the Broncos and the Chargers welcome ... the Packers.

Yes, it's entirely possible that Kansas City will be in first place all alone come this time next week. That's a credit to them for fighting back from a slew of big-time injuries. But San Diego had more than enough opportunities to push Kansas City back and extend their division lead on Monday.

They couldn't convert anything in the red zone (at one point a first down from the Chiefs 22-yard line ended up in a fourth-and-22 from the Chiefs 34-yard line) and had to settle for Nick Novak field goals all night long.

This is a common theme with the Chargers this year, who score less than 50 percent of the time they get inside the opponent's 20. And it's been a common theme for a while. It always seemed like talent might trump these problems, but as Monday night proved (again), sometimes the Chargers just can't get out of their own way.

For more NFL news, rumors and analysis, follow @EyeOnNFL on Twitter, subscribe to our NFL newsletter, and while you're add it, add our RSS Feed.


Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 7:27 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

I am so tired of hearing about the Chargers.  The media forces this team down your throat and have for years.  Yes, I am a Chiefs fan.  Yes, Rivers has a good arm.  Yes, the Chargers have some talent.  But they fail to play together as a team and Norv Turner coached teams have never won anything.  Why everyone sets the bar at the Chargers baffles me.  Phillip Rivers is no better than Jeff George.  George had a cannon for an arm and played for how many teams?  and won how many championships?  Dan Marino was a great qb and set lots of records but never won a super bowl.  You can have a qb that throws for 400 yards every game, but if it doesn't equate to touchdowns and you DON'T HAVE A RUNNING GAME it doesn't matter. A balanced offense is important!!  If people think Ryan Matthews is a good replacement for Tomlinson or Sproles you are out of your mind.  Back to Rivers.  This guy is having a terrible year to follow up last years terrible year.  Last I checked, the teams that play together in ANY sport are the ones that win.  And don't talk to me about injuries.  The Chiefs have lost pro bowl safety Eric Berry, tight end Tony Moeaki, and Jamaal Charles to knee injuries for the year and have clawed their way back into this thing.  The Chargers don't know how to do that and Norv Turner does not know how to teach them how to do that.  And no, there is not a tie for first place in the AFC West.  There are tie breakers to determine who is in first place so if teams finish with the same record at the end of the year, you can determine a true division winner.  Right now those tie breakers go to the Chiefs so they are currently atop the division.

Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2011 4:34 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Replay shows Gates pushing to create some unnecessary separation right before the catch.  It was foolish, because he's so good he couuld have just used his strength to catch the ball outright.  And you say listen to Gruden and Jaws?  What would you expect two former QB's to say?

And to your BTW - you clearly didn't see the same replay the rest of the world saw.  What I, and everyone else, saw was his elbow hitting the ground and then the ball being VISIBLE come out.  What you don't see is whether the ball was out once he hit the ground, as his body blocked any view from the cameras.  If it would have been ruled down by the officials it would have remained down by contact, as they said the call stood and not confirmed.

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2011 1:56 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Nice, so were going from "The Chargers beat the Chargers.". To "The league has a conspiracy against the Chargers and cheated them".

I like it

Since: Sep 16, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2011 11:13 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Gates scored the TD. Chargers won the game. If you don't believe me then watch it on NFL REPLAY and listen to John Gruden and Ron Jaworski. They know more about football than any of the yahoos on this message board. BTW - Dexter didn't fumble. The replay clearly shows his elbow and behind touching the ground before ball is loose. Officiating sucks this year. Sucks every year. Time to move on.

Since: Dec 29, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2011 10:16 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Bottom line is Rivers just being Rivers! Hes a natural born choker, whats different than any other game fellas?

Since: Oct 25, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 1:30 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Okay then, explain to me how the chargers lost in overtime again? And how about C-H-I-E-F-S...just a minor detail, some may even prefer chefs.

Since: Jan 5, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2011 12:47 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

UM, the chargers made the necessary mistakes to lose the game for the Cheifs.

Since: Oct 25, 2011
Posted on: November 2, 2011 12:22 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

This is insanity! Maybe I am a biased Chiefs fan, bur rarely does a team take the field and play mistake free football. I'm so tired of being the door mat in the AFC West...who won the division last year? But oh wait, it doesn't matter, on paper, the Chargers were the better football team so it was really just a fluke, right? And on Monday night, the Chiefs didn't really beat the Chargers, the Chargers beat the Chargers...give me a break! Matt Cassel made the necessary throws to win the game, Jackie Battle made the necessary runs to win the game, the defense made the necessary stops to win the game, Ryan Succop made the necessary kicks to win the game. Phillip Rivers and the rest of the Chargers were presented with the exact same opportunities to WIN THE GAME, but did they? No! Say what you want, but Norv Turner and his team lost that game, Todd Haley and the Chiefs won that game, so who beat who again? I'm confused, because on paper that shouldn't have happened right? Botched snap aside, OT provided the Chargers with the ball first, what's the stat for that, the team with the ball fisrt in OT usually wins, unlike NCAA rules. Did the Chargers drive down the field and kick the winning field, they were stopped, BY THE CHIEFS DEFENSE, did the chargers defense stop the chiefs from driving down the field to kick the winning field, they were BEAT!

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2011 10:12 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

1st downs SD/22 KC/19     
     3rd down conv SD 5/14  KC 7/14     &
nbsp;   TOP KC 32:15  SD 27:45   total yards KC 447 SD 341
Both teams threw 2 ints.    SD had 3 fumbles lost 2     &nbs
p; KC had 2 fumbles lost both.   

If those stats apparently = being dominated.  Almost every game in the league teams are getting dominated.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2011 10:04 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Rivers and crew did a lot to lose this game. Iwould say that the most significant thing was moving the ball effectively down the field until he hit the red zone. You could spin this whichever way you want- Chiefs D stepped up in the red zone or Chargers choked. Pick your poison.

The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the views of CBS Sports or