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Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Posted on: November 1, 2011 12:51 am
Edited on: November 1, 2011 5:36 am
Posted by Will Brinson

No one beat the San Diego Chargers worse in 2010 than the San Diego Chargers. And in an ugly 23-20 overtime loss in Kansas City on Monday, many of the problems that have plagued San Diego during Norv Turner's tenure emerged in typically ugly fashion.

None was more ugly than what happened with 1:03 remaining on the clock, the Chiefs out of timeouts and the Chargers well within kicker Nick Novak's range for a game-winning field goal. Philip Rivers then fumbled a snap right before taking a knee.

"Worst day ever," Rivers mouthed from the sidelines after the fumble.

That's an understandable feeling from Rivers, who's struggled mightly this season. He threw two picks -- one his fault and another on a tipped pass -- but actually straightened up to produce a pretty solid line (26/41, 369 yards) despite not throwing any touchdown passes.

San Diego finished with 12 penalties for 105 yards, which was three more yards than the Chargers had rushing. They fumbled three balls and lost two of them, and gave away the two picks.

The Chiefs weren't much better, but they ultimately just shot themselves in the foot fewer times.

"It was not pretty by any stretch of the imagination," Todd Haley said.

No it was not. Matt Cassel looked pretty bad, the Chiefs didn't have much of a rushing game to speak of until a nice late drive that featured a touchdown from Jackie Battle.

None of this is to take away from Kansas City because, my goodness, they're tied for first place in the AFC West all of a sudden. This is unbelievable, given that they looked like one of the worst teams in the NFL three weeks into the season. And they're getting ready to welcome the 0-fer Dolphins to Arrowhead, while the Raiders match up against the Broncos and the Chargers welcome ... the Packers.

Yes, it's entirely possible that Kansas City will be in first place all alone come this time next week. That's a credit to them for fighting back from a slew of big-time injuries. But San Diego had more than enough opportunities to push Kansas City back and extend their division lead on Monday.

They couldn't convert anything in the red zone (at one point a first down from the Chiefs 22-yard line ended up in a fourth-and-22 from the Chiefs 34-yard line) and had to settle for Nick Novak field goals all night long.

This is a common theme with the Chargers this year, who score less than 50 percent of the time they get inside the opponent's 20. And it's been a common theme for a while. It always seemed like talent might trump these problems, but as Monday night proved (again), sometimes the Chargers just can't get out of their own way.

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Since: Nov 1, 2011
Posted on: November 1, 2011 1:46 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

I think by now everyone can clearly see that Norv Turner is not the answer at head coach. Boring and predictable play calling, undisciplined players and the worst game clock management I've ever witnessed.

Same old same old. They're going to finish the season 7 and 9. 

Since: Nov 7, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2011 1:15 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

I am so tired of this garbage about the Chargers.  Oh, the Chargers beat themselves.  Oh, the Jets didn't beat them, the Chargers gave the game away.  Oh, the Chiefs didn't beat them, the Chargers gave it away.  How about this statement, the last time I checked the NFL games are 60 minutes long, not 30 or 35 or even 59 with respect to the Chiefs game.  Big deal if the Chargers were up by 11 on the Jets last week at halftime.  There have been over 20 comebacks in the NFL this year of a double digit deficit, so it's not really uncommon for a team to play better in the second half and win a a game.  Don't get me wrong, the Chargers are notorious for being choke artist, and Rivers, who gets so much credit when he plays well, doesn't get nearly as much criticism, when he chokes.  If that was Romo, he would have been abused.  But lets get back to the topic.  The Chiefs played a tough game, pressured Rivers all night and recovered a fumble that probably should have been recovered by the Chargers' center.  They also stopped the Chargers in OT and drove down the field 65 yards for a game winning FG.  Don't take that credit away from the Chiefs.  Just like you shouldn't take the credit away from the Jets for making the right adjustments at halftime and playing a great second half where their defense pitched a shutout.  Or even going back to the Pats game where people were almost giving credit to Rivers for coming back in that game.  Well, he's the one who put them in the whole to begin with, with 2 picks. 

The plain and simple truth is the Chargers just aren't that good and they will be back to .500 after a spanking by the Pack this week. Rivers is a joke and a choke and gets way too much credit.  Sure, stats wise he has put up some good numbers, but what has he done in the playoffs - zippo.  Guys like Rothlisberger and Eli Manning, are never measured as high as Rivers, but yet they perform best when it counts, in the playoffs.  The both have rings and I will go out on a limb and say this.  Mark Sanchez will have a ring before Rivers.  I don't know when it will be, but it will come before Rivers has one because he raises his ability in the playoffs, not the opposite. 

Since: Nov 1, 2011
Posted on: November 1, 2011 1:14 pm
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Since: Sep 11, 2009
Posted on: November 1, 2011 1:02 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

The Chargers didn't beat the Chargers, the Chiefs did.

The Chiefs didn't do anything to make Rivers fumble the snap... Forget all the bad calls (and there were plenty going both ways) and everything else... That alone is the Chargers beating the Chargers... The one unforced critical error that costs them the game..

Since: Nov 1, 2011
Posted on: November 1, 2011 12:19 pm

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Doesn't answer the question.  If McCluster doesn't fumble and the Chiefs go on to score a TD, then the best the Chargers can do is tie not win.  If Cassel doesn't fumble the ball and the Chargers kick FG, then again, then they would be kicking a FG to tie, not win.  They won the coin toss in OT, but couldn't move the ball.  The Chiefs went on a 13+ play drive to win in OT.  To say that the Chargers lost to the Chargers, again, is simply not accurate and a very simplistic view. 

Since: Jul 18, 2011
Posted on: November 1, 2011 12:18 pm


okay, that game was awful!! Makes you wonder if...if....if....maybe this is a team plan to get rid of Norv Turner-- that fumbled snap could easily have been and perhaps was deliberate................
maybe Rivers does not want to win under Norv coaching...that's the way it appears to me. Norv is a terrible play caller--very boring and predictable. A few games back the Chargers had a critical play and should have run the clock all the way down first, but instead they ran the ball very early and also fumbled-- giving the other team maximum time to run down the field.... it's all starting to look very suspicious... and I am a die-hard Charger fan!!

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: November 1, 2011 11:35 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

looks like Rivers is the next Romo.....maybe you should have kept Brees and maybe you would have a championship by now.

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: November 1, 2011 11:34 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

The game went into overtime because Matt Cassel threw an interception. Had he not done that, KC could have won the game in regulation. Phillip Rivers didn't lose the game for San Diego, but his fumble was a huge factor.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: November 1, 2011 11:24 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Uh, I guess it's because the chances of the quarterback muffing a snap with the game within easy reach is a glaring f** up.  One minute to go, chip shot field goal.....THAT'S WHY!

Since: Oct 19, 2007
Posted on: November 1, 2011 11:23 am

Chargers lose to the Chargers, again

Funny, I don't see all the Rivers is sooo much better then Eli Manning comments this year. While not an Elite QB, I think m,ost teams would love to have a consistant Eli then clowns like Rivers, Sanchez, Grossman, Orton, etc.    

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