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Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

Posted on: November 2, 2011 8:03 pm
Farmers FieldPosted by Josh Katzowitz

Could the Vikings be inching closer to possibly leaving Minnesota and moving somewhere else? Like, to say, Los Angeles?

We’ve written about the possibilities of building a new stadium in Minnesota to house the Vikings once the lease with the Metrodome is complete after this year, but the fight to secure money to actually build a new stadium has stagnated.

And the Vikings are not pleased about it, issuing a terse statement Wednesday night that read the team is “concerned” about the matter and that the public has had 10 years to debate the issues.

As the AP reported Tuesday, Gov. Mark Dayton had pledged not to raise taxes in order to secure the additional funding for a new stadium. Stadium supporters on the Ramsey County Board had proposed to raise the sales tax by a half-cent in order to raise $350 million needed, but Dayton said he won’t allow that.

That means, a vote by the citizenry can’t be held until November 2012 on whether to raise the taxes. The two problems with that? That’s long after the Vikings organization wants construction to begin on a new site, and there’s a good chance voters wouldn’t approve the tax increase anyway.

The Vikings and L.A.
The proposed site in Arden Hills would cost about $1.1 billion, and the state and the team have pledged to donate their fair share to the project -- Minnesota would put in no more than $300 million and the Vikings $407 million. But they’re about $350 million short, and if the voters don’t want to pay their share, a new stadium could be built at a different, cheaper Minneapolis-area location. Or the Vikings could move the team altogether.

Here’s the Vikings take on the matter, released in that statement Wednesday evening.

“The Vikings are concerned about the turn of events surrounding a stadium solution in Minnesota. While we have been encouraged by the efforts of Governor Dayton and the four caucus leaders to seriously discuss this issue, these recent developments are very disappointing. The Vikings stadium issue has been heavily debated in the public for over 10 years. With less than 90 days left on the team’s lease, the urgency to act is on us.  The Vikings continue to stand ready to work with State leaders on a stadium solution that works for Minnesota and the team.”

Otherwise, the West Coast might start to look awfully appealing.

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Since: Sep 17, 2006
Posted on: November 5, 2011 8:32 am

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

I've been a Vikings fan all my life but the smart business decision, here is to let the team go. Why? Because I think the NFL is in the midst of big changes that will revolutionize the game and I'm not convinced it will be positive - particularly for the in-stadium game experience. I'd especially caution LA investors where the teams they are looking to attract have no native fan-base to fill the seat.

Fantasy football plays a huge role in the game - changing it from a team sport to one that is player-driven. Most of the people I know are more passionate about their own office-pool fantasy league team than they are about their TEAM. This will eventually impact attendance given the high price of ticket. Why go to a game where only some of the players on your favorite team are playing especially when you can watch the progress of all you players in HD on a 65 inch televison? Eroding attendance will impact the television product; Jerry Jones may not be much of a GM but he is a helluva marketer and sees this problem on the way. New hitting rules have changed this game and as more information about concussions comes to light, the NFL may have to think about becoming the NFFL (additional F for flag). And I am the only one who HATES that every receiver ends ever play where they failed to make a catch with a flag-throwing motion? That should be a 15 yards unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and is enough alone to turn me off to the game. It's the American equivalent of faking catastrophic injusy in international soccer. Finally, the quality of play has deteriorated and the NFL is dangerously close, I think, to following the path of the NBA. Used to be that knowing the game and having veteran experience made for better players. Now it's all about the rookies. 20 years ago, you'd have never seen an offensive crop of newbies performing like Cam, Dalton, AJ Green, DeMarcus Murray, and even Ponder after one a couple starts. Gone are the days of looking back to Marino as the rare solid rookie quarterback. It's become commonplace. This is probably a result of some progress in the college game but definitely some regression in the quality of the NFL product.

Maybe these changes lead to a stronger, bigger NFL - certainly it has never been more popular, but I don't know. I don't think the signs are there for a strong NFL for the lifespan of a new stadium.

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: November 5, 2011 12:21 am

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

The Minnesota Vikings are a storied franchise of the NFL. Get it done Minnesota. If you gotta raise sales tax a 1/2 a percent frickin do it. It's way worth it. What r u thinkin' gov?

Since: Aug 7, 2007
Posted on: November 3, 2011 7:29 pm

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

I actually want to vomit when I read your self-righeous non-sense there, Bob. The idea of capitalism is putting your OWN money at risk. You do see the difference, don't you , Bob? If the bar owners and hotel owners want to chip in for th esake of their businesses, let them. They get paid for the serivces they offer too.   

You're the garbage spewer IMHO.

Since: Aug 7, 2007
Posted on: November 3, 2011 7:03 pm

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

Oh and you're right .. banks are a racket too. I guess when you make up all the rules and hold all the strings that's the way it goes.  

Since: Aug 7, 2007
Posted on: November 3, 2011 7:01 pm

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

Don't take this the wrong way, Drawmeomg, but I assume you are a little-left leaning in your thinking. Viking football is not a public service. 
As I said, if the Vikings want to borrow money and repay with (or share) profits that's one thing. Extorting money from the city and state is another. I don't see Wilf listed as being on the state or city payroll, nor i she running an non-profit organization. So, I assume he is running a private business and that he and whatever other owners reap all the rewards. The fans already pay for their entertainment, or public service as you may call it, either through inflated ticket and some insane concession prices, or though the media sales ads that have to endure to watch the Vikings on TV. I think you got this wrong. This stinks worse than Solyndra :)    

Since: Mar 12, 2007
Posted on: November 3, 2011 1:04 pm

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

One side should pay 100% for the stadium.  Who ever pays for it can then get all the revenue from it (tickets, concessions, parking, etc).  Why do tax payers need to pay for over 60% of the stadium, then the Viking's owner pulls in the revenue from it. 

Since: Nov 3, 2011
Posted on: November 3, 2011 10:57 am
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Since: Apr 25, 2008
Posted on: November 3, 2011 9:25 am

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

Tired owners holding cities hostage with the stadium negoiations.  Bottom line, tax money should not go to help these multimillion organizations build new stadiums.  Majority of the time, the taxpayers lose money on the deal, while the team makes all the money.  If you want to remain the Minnesota Vikings, then either stay in the metrodome or do what other businesses do and find your own financing and build the stadium you want. If LA wants to give you money to move, then do it, but there is a reason why teams don't stay there for long.

Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: November 3, 2011 9:25 am

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium

Look. This is about the ignorant me, me ,me government officials in Minnesota. It sickens me that these public officals have been wasting their time, twittling their fingers about this deal. Its a HUGE deal. And they are waiting until the last minute. This reminds me of our own gov. Pathetic is what i say. This should be done already. Raise the taxes. And support it. The folks in minni wont even notice the difference. What they will notice though emptiness. Viking football in Minnesota is a montrous event to most people. The few who are making this difficult are the "i don't care about other people; people. You know the ones that have it.

I am one unhappy Viking.. fan. It was depressing enough to live in that state for 27 yrs. But to have the vikings leave, the twins suck, gophers suck, the wild suck. God what a horrible sports state. WNBA don't count! Again let the people in Minnesota vote on it. Dont let a few white rich people make a decision for 3.5 mil.

Since: Dec 28, 2007
Posted on: November 3, 2011 9:02 am

Vikings 'concerned' with response to new stadium


banks, GM, Solar companies, airlines, or did you not pay attention during the last bailout

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