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Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

Posted on: November 7, 2011 2:53 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson

The AFC West, thanks to Denver upsetting Oakland 38-24 on Sunday, is a hot mess right now. And in what has to be the weirdest turn of events, Tim Tebow's led the Broncos within one game of first place in their division.

But he's still not on firm footing in terms of remaining the starting quarterback -- though he's guaranteed to start this week! -- and John Elway told Denver's 102.3 The Ticket on Monday that John Fox was prepared to bring in Brady Quinn if Tebow struggled against the Raiders Sunday.

"I think that John was patient with it and wanted to see how things were going," Elway said, via the Denver Post. "If we’d have seen what happened the last couple of weeks, we might have seen a change."

Elway also noted that he'd like to see Tebow's completion percentage, currently hovering below 50 percent, improve.

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That's not surprising, because it's tough to win football games when you're only hitting on 46.4 percent of your passes. What is surprising is how quickly Fox and Elway were willing to bail on the Tebow experiment and roll with Quinn.

Tebow looked terrible against Detroit last week and was only good for a few minutes against the Dolphins in Week 7. But had they really given him a fair shake, after 10 quarters of football, a trade of his best wide receiver and no clear-cut game plan designed to utilize his strengths?

Because it sure doesn't seem that way. When Denver focused on running the ball and actually installed a offensive package designed around the guy under center, the result was much more palatable.

None of that's to say that Tebow is set up to make a run at a division title, or even that he'll be an above-average quarterback this year. He probably won't.

But how are we going to find out about his ability to adapt and improve if Denver doesn't even give him a fair shake? Speaking of fair shakes, they probably should have traded Kyle Orton if they weren't even going to make him the backup.


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Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 4:57 pm
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

Agree. I think he needs to go somewhere where some will work with him, give in positive input. I was thinking the other day
the Seahawks would be a good place. Pete Carroll is not so concerned with oh he must play this way, or he is out He
would work with him to give him positive feedback and develop plays to work around his style of playing.
Besides Tebow has a history with Pete from his college days.
Elway well don't really like him, if you don't want a player simply Trade him.  Put Orton back in, I'm sure
this little break has suddenly mad him a great Quaterback.



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 4:48 pm
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

concerning the Manning Broter Payton, I believe he threw the most picks in his 1st season of the NFL........ of any rookie
Isn't he the greatest.
Man Lay off Of tebow.



Since: Aug 1, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 1:23 pm
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

elway and fox , are dumb and dumber ...... the broncos will not be relevant ( except in colorado) for the next 20 years



Since: Feb 12, 2010
Posted on: November 8, 2011 1:01 pm
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

im sick of the hate comments. analysists spend all their time dogging tebow, is that all you can talk about is why you dont think he can win games? tebow is 2-1 this season with a below average team around him. Now if tebow is a below average quarterback then why is a below average team suddenly 2-1.  Thats a 66.6%.  A percentage that brees, brady, rivers, romo, and vick dont have this year! Listen, tebow is basically a rookie, he has 6 starts.  But the fire you give this kid is unreal.  BRADFORD 0-6...havent heard much ridicule of him.  GABBERT 1-5...nothing on him and he has an exceptional defense and a decent running game around him.  and lets not forget CAM. All we hear about is how great CAM is doing.  While the stats are exceptional 2-6 is not and last time I checked 2-6 doesnt make playoffs.  So Bradford, Gabbert= growing pains, right?  Cam=just a bad team around him, he cant help it. , Tebow=junk, horrible, doesnt matter his team was 1-4 without him and the coach who was fired the year before for his inability to coach in carolina, apparantly is not to blame at all.  However of the 4, TEBOW has the only winning record...



Since: Oct 12, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2011 12:24 pm
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

Usually I never comment on here because, like others here, it's only my opinion and not fact. However, enough of the Tebow hate and garbage. None of you know him personally, he didn't draft himself and he believes in a religion. Even though it's not my religion, he believes in something other than mocking people and spewing hate. Of course that's the norm now, bad people image gets lauded and the good gets thrown away. Why do people wish others to fail, because they are failures too.



Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 12:19 pm
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

If anyone should know about needing to improve completion percentage it is John Elway.  His first 5 starts he completed just 44.7% of his passes and only 47.5% for his first 10 starts.  If he had kept that up he wouldn't have made it in the NFL, either.  The next 6 years he picked it up a little, averaging 55%.  If Tebow is given a couple years and he can't get above 55% he shouldn't start anymore, either, unless he is somehow winning all his games with his legs.  Only time will tell how Tebow will be, if he is given the chance to play and possibly improve.



Since: Nov 8, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 12:12 pm
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

I AGREE.. Colt McCoy, Gabbert, and Bradford have all been duds this season. So, talk about them. Geez it's not Tebow's fault he is a good guy and people enjoy watching him play. There is just something about him that makes it enjoyable and he just wins!
Fox and Elway can't stand him so of course he will never be put in a position to succeed in Denver.



Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: November 8, 2011 11:04 am
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

I've never seen anything like the hate that Tebow generates. Nobody is calling for Gabbert's to be replaced in Jacksonville and his stats are way worse than Tebows. Nobody is calling for Rivers to be benched in San Diego even though he's leading the league in INTs and has been directly responsible for most of San Diego's losses with bad INTs including pick sixes. In fact, he was directly responsible for the loss to GB throwing 2 pick sixes. Tebow on the other hand had 2 wins in 3 games and has 6TDs vs. 1 INT and can generate over 100 yards rushing in a game. Last time QBs could do that (think Vick) they were considered franchise QBs and given second chances after felony crimes. Yet Tebow who is Mr. "church boy" has an army of haters that want him out of the league because he prays too much or doesn't 18 baby mommas like most of the rest of the NFL.

Does Tebow need to improve his completion percentage? Yes. Does he need to get rid of the ball faster and take less sacks? Yes. But I'll take a sub 50% completion ration and a few more sacks if I get a 6 to 1 TD to INT ratio and 100 yards plus rushing from my QB all day long. I know McGahee is a stud and had much to do with Denver's offensive explosioin, but Tebow running for almost 120 yards was no slouch. And don't think the defense didn't have to waste a defender spying on Tebow in case he runs which was one less defender to focus on McGahee. If you don't think a QB who can put up 118 rushing yards helps your overall running game, you don't know football.

Would I take Tebow over Rodgers or Manning? No. Would I take Tebow over the bottom 1/3 of the QBs starting today. Yes. And I certainly would take him over Orton who has proven he cannot win in this league and certainly not as the Denver QB or Quinn. I have nothing against Quinn, but Denver invested a 1st round pick on Tebow and Tebow has much more upside than Quinn. Quinn should be Tebow's backup and Orton should be traded to a team like Jacksonville who has a rookie QB that has the worst QB rating in the league, but that nobody is talking about because they are too busy hating on Tebow.




Since: Oct 29, 2006
Posted on: November 8, 2011 10:49 am
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

@ NYKLIB725

No, it was definitely more about the Broncos winning it than the Raiders losing it.  You must have forgotten that Willis McGahee absolutely shredded the Raiders' defense apart on the ground.  Palmer turned the ball over three times in no small part due to his foolishness to test Champ Bailey in man-to-man coverage.  And finally, Tebow had himself a pretty good game too.  He may not be able to pass very well, but he has kept the turnovers at a minimum, which always helps to keep a team in the game. Tebow won't win the MVP, but give credit where credit is due. And that would be to the Broncos in general, Tebow included.



Since: Sep 30, 2011
Posted on: November 8, 2011 10:12 am
 

Elway: Quinn was ready if Tebow struggled Sunday

Whatever floats your boat but the guy does have SuperBowls and teh Broncos have not won without him!!!


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