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Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Posted on: November 9, 2011 2:22 pm
Edited on: November 9, 2011 3:10 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

Everyone knows that Ravens-Steelers games are a different (read: more violent) brand of football and that was exactly the case on Sunday night, when Baltimore snuck out a win in Pittsburgh. Ray Lewis and Ryan Clark delivered the most notable hits of the evening -- Lewis knocked Hines Ward with a clear helmet-to-helmet hit but wasn't flagged, while Clark picked up a 15-yard penalty for a hit on Ed Dickson.

Tuesday, Ryan Wilson told you to expect fines for both guys, and on Wednesday, they came down from the league. Lewis was fined $20,000 for his hit on Ward and Clark was fined $40,000 by the NFL for his hit on Dickson. Clark is especially unhappy about it.

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"The hit wasn't malicious at all," Clark said, per Will Graves of the Associated Press. "i know how to knock somebody out if i want to knock them out. Am I supposed to let him catch it and then wait for him and hug him? Should I throw a pillow at him? Should I blow a whistle?"

And the Steelers safety had some choice words for Commissioner Roger Goodell as well.

"Somebody else needs to step in ... not that I respected Roger before this ... but this is ridiculous," Clark said. "I'm not going to sit across from [the Commissioner] unless they handcuff me. which is probably the next step anyway."

Lewis wasn't happy either, but had less aggressive words for the league office.

"Yeah, I heard from the league and like I said they fined me whatever they was going to fine me," Lewis said, via Aaron Wilson of the Carroll County Times. "The thing is you definitely respect them trying to protect player safety. At the same time, it won't change not one way I play this week no matter what the fine is. You can't stop playing defense the way defense has always been created to play. When the receiver has the ball, your job is to disengage him from the ball. You never want to hurt nobody.

"I've been in this business too long. I just think once you start getting into these fines I don't know how they come up with the numbers most of the time."

Well, actually, the NFL has a pretty standardized system for fines, though there is some confusion about the application. A fine for a hit on a defenseless player or impermissible use of a helmet (including illegal launching) is $20,000, which explains Lewis' fine.

And a repeat-offender fine is $40,000, which is why Clark, who's been targeted more than once by the NFL, got double what Lewis did, even though the safety claims the hit wasn't against league rules.

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Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: November 10, 2011 12:29 am

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

As a Lions fan I feel for Clark. His hit was textbook. He led with his shoulder he separated the receiver from ball. Because he hit him hard he is penalized and then fined. Both those decisions are what is wrong with Goodell's policy. On the other hand Lewis led with the top of his helmet at Ward's head. This is the same guy they showed in the"How To Hit Legally Video" last year where he led with his shoulder into the chest of the receiver. If as the Raven's fan have argued that this was pay back for Ward's hits in the past then man up and stop whining about the fine. The real shame is there was no penalty for clearly the hit that was illegal and more dangerous.

Since: Sep 16, 2007
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:59 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Somebody else said get rid of helmets if you read and understood the post correctly. Of course they're not going to get rid of helmets. Ever heard of a word called sarcasm? So quick to call someone an idiot too. Why? Because I'm a steelers fan? I agree that he needs to keep his head up, but watch the video and you'll see that he leads with his shoulder while aimed at the guys chest. What the receiver does with his head after the fact is out of the defenders control. Again it's a speed game. Do you really think the Steelers or any team for that matter are head hunting trying to get fined? I'm pretty sure they are doing their best to abide by the newer, softer rules that have been implemented in the past couple of years.

Since: Oct 15, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:43 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

5 years ago, these two teams were "tough, old school, drag um out " style defenses.  Announcers sang praises about how "punishing" the two teams played.  Power running and tough defense.

Today, they are a bunch of "thugs and bullies".

Even the fans of the Steelers and Ravens seemed to hve become more squeamish with these thread posts.


Goodell is just playing to the new wave of the NFL interests.  People love offense.  People love offense and scoring, and people love fantasy football which is all about  the offensive scoring in games.  Fantasy Football leagues with IDPs are not as popular as standard PPR leagues and the like.

Basically no one likes to have their star player knocked out.  Not fanatsy fans, and not owners.  So Goodell is tweaking the league to play more of a pro bowl style defense where no one really hits anyone.

Its not just the Ravens or Steelers that are hitting guys to hard, but it seems that these teams get the most attention because they are known for.....punishing defense.  What was lauded as a positive attribute a few years ago, is now a negative.

go figure. 

Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:26 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

 My first comment is that 90% of what R. Goodell has done has been great for the league.  He has set a standard that will be followed and non-compliance shall be dealt with toot sweet.  The 10% I hate is some of these late hit calls or helmet to helmet.  You are moving as fast as you can and helmets hit, so what that's why thet were them.  I get it if you launch and lead with the helmet, that should be called, but helmets bumping is just as much on the offensive player as the defensive player.   The defenseless receiver, I love this one.  If the ball is thrown in his direction he is not defenseless.  If he is walking off the field or drinking water on the side lines he is.  There are HOF'ers from the 60's through the 80's who would have been suspended more than half there career for how they played.  Jack Tatum would have been cut in mini camp under these rules.  Jon Gruden suggested that the players should just wear skirts if this is how we are going to play.  I have NOTHING against protecting the players, but it is a violent game, and will not survive if it isn't!  Don't blow the best thing out there!

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:22 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K


Nothing clouds my judgement... I call it like I see it. Goodell is a Patriot Fan, and for some reason favors the Ravens - must love Ray Ray. I know the APD does. Steelers are the singel greatest franchise in pro sports. It's without question. If the NFL Didn't have the Cheatriots or RayVEns, it would go on. Without teams like the Steelers and Packers, the NFL becomes the American League East. You idiots are so blind, you can't see it, you don't want to see it, and once you see it, you will dispute it because you are typical east coach morons, who think the world revolves around you. It doesn't, you live in a fake world. Much like the fake Super Bowl trophies the Pats have. The Ravens trophy followed the worst NFL Season ever, and no one cared about that game anyway. The main point is Roger Goodell is a moron. Pats & Ravens fans are pretty much pathetic losers who root for players like Tom CryBrady, Terrelll "Women Lover" Suggs and Atlanta Nite Life Lewis.

Exactly right BlakNGold. You call it like YOU see it. And thank you for proving my point: that your hatred of the Patriots(and the Ravens) clouds your judgment to the point that you can't make an objective observation. And if you read my profile stup-mo, you would see that I live in Memphis, TN and always have. Not the East coast.

And it is YOU that refuses to admit that your team is anything other than squeaky clean. No sir, the Steelers NEVER have done anything even remotely wrong, have they ?

The Patriots trophies are fake ? Hmmm, they seem to be made of the same material all Super bowl trophies are made of. and sorry, no matter how much it eats at you(and i know it does), there will be no asterisks, except in your pathetic mind, and those of other Patriot haters. YOU are the one living in a fake world if you think the Steelers are the single greatest franchise in pro sports. Ever heard of the Yankees, Celtics, Canadiens, Lakers and the Red Wings clown ? You have licked the Steeler family's boots so much over the years until mud and dirt taste like candy to you. Even many in the Steeler Nation's fanbase are embarrassed by a lot of the  things you say. You need a waaambulance and a psychiatrist's couch.

Since: Jun 20, 2010
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:18 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Does anyone think it's funny that Ray Lewis was fined more for a football hit than he was for killing two men in Atlanta?  I bet he is actually at home right now pissed that he has to pay this fine, instead of thinking how his two friends that he ratted on our in still in jail serving time for a double murder he took part in.  Of course it's all good in the hood as long as Lewis keeps sending those checks to the two guilty friends families. 

Whether or not this was a good hit, how can anyone feel sorry for this scum bag?

Since: Mar 9, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:15 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Although I was pulling for the RAVENS, I liked Clark's hit.  Baltimore would have had a 20-yard gain and a 3rd conversion without that well-timed hit.  He didn't go to the head or wasn't trying to hurt the guy, it was a good football play.  Flag and Fine the dirty plays, but otherwise let these guys play.  In another 10 years the NFL will be a flag football league. 

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