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Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Posted on: November 9, 2011 2:22 pm
Edited on: November 9, 2011 3:10 pm
Posted by Will Brinson

Everyone knows that Ravens-Steelers games are a different (read: more violent) brand of football and that was exactly the case on Sunday night, when Baltimore snuck out a win in Pittsburgh. Ray Lewis and Ryan Clark delivered the most notable hits of the evening -- Lewis knocked Hines Ward with a clear helmet-to-helmet hit but wasn't flagged, while Clark picked up a 15-yard penalty for a hit on Ed Dickson.

Tuesday, Ryan Wilson told you to expect fines for both guys, and on Wednesday, they came down from the league. Lewis was fined $20,000 for his hit on Ward and Clark was fined $40,000 by the NFL for his hit on Dickson. Clark is especially unhappy about it.

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"The hit wasn't malicious at all," Clark said, per Will Graves of the Associated Press. "i know how to knock somebody out if i want to knock them out. Am I supposed to let him catch it and then wait for him and hug him? Should I throw a pillow at him? Should I blow a whistle?"

And the Steelers safety had some choice words for Commissioner Roger Goodell as well.

"Somebody else needs to step in ... not that I respected Roger before this ... but this is ridiculous," Clark said. "I'm not going to sit across from [the Commissioner] unless they handcuff me. which is probably the next step anyway."

Lewis wasn't happy either, but had less aggressive words for the league office.

"Yeah, I heard from the league and like I said they fined me whatever they was going to fine me," Lewis said, via Aaron Wilson of the Carroll County Times. "The thing is you definitely respect them trying to protect player safety. At the same time, it won't change not one way I play this week no matter what the fine is. You can't stop playing defense the way defense has always been created to play. When the receiver has the ball, your job is to disengage him from the ball. You never want to hurt nobody.

"I've been in this business too long. I just think once you start getting into these fines I don't know how they come up with the numbers most of the time."

Well, actually, the NFL has a pretty standardized system for fines, though there is some confusion about the application. A fine for a hit on a defenseless player or impermissible use of a helmet (including illegal launching) is $20,000, which explains Lewis' fine.

And a repeat-offender fine is $40,000, which is why Clark, who's been targeted more than once by the NFL, got double what Lewis did, even though the safety claims the hit wasn't against league rules.

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Since: May 30, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 6:28 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Please don't go there with the comments about the referees giving any sort of breaks to the Ravens.  We have all clearly witnessed the past couple of AFC playoff games where the referees looked like they each owned vacation homes in the Steel City...

Since: Sep 11, 2009
Posted on: November 9, 2011 6:06 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Ridiculous disparity on those fines, relative to the nature of the hits.

(Yes, I know this is Calrk's second consecutive game fine.)

But, Ray Ray's hit on Hines, taking an opponent out of the game, via a helmet to helmet knock, seems a far greater violation of the silly Goodell rules that what Clark did. (Someone check out Ray Ray's comments about the fine, and be clear that Roger's actions have had zero impact on Ray's "style.")

I realize that the Steelers phenomenal SB success draws out whiners and losers and that only causes me to chuckle and appreciate my team more.

But Goodell's enforcements are ludicrous and, eventually, both management and the players will tire of his tyranny and force him outof the NFL! 

Since: May 28, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 6:00 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

All this crying from these Steeler fans is down right pathetic! Let it go! Still 8 games left! If your crying about losing to us twice then when Cincy beats you then yall will commit suicide!

Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: November 9, 2011 5:45 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Some fool: Let me clariry this for you. This is Clark's second offense in as many weeks. Lewis, if it had  been his second offense in as many weeks would ALSO have been fined like Clark. For Ryan to come out and say he should have taken Dickson out or blown out his knee just reinforces what many suspect..... The Steelers... like Heinz Ward are dirty players. Some have said, "Karma" on Ward.

Neither Dickson nor Ward overly "crouched" down to cause the helmet to helmet. Both should have been fined by "Goodell's" latest standards.

With that said. Where is the "W" for wussy in "NFL"? Exactly. I have ranted on about this before with the "No Fun League" years ago. Only when the fans, players and NFL teams PUSH BACK, will Roger stop this charade of safety.

Since: Jan 13, 2007
Posted on: November 9, 2011 5:30 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

The games between the two teams are always hard hitting and great to watch.
Comparing these two situations shows the hypocracy that exists in the game and the league.
Ray's hit was an obvious, helmet to helmet hit that knocked Ward out and out of the game. No flag because he is Ray Lewis and gets too much respect.
Ryan's hit was not even a helmet to helmet hit, and it was not on a defenseless receiver because he already had the ball so he was a runner with the ball. This should not have been flagged nor fined at all.

So they want to protect players by having rules that are not able to be articulated and understood by all, including hte players, coackes, refs, fans, and obviously the commish-bag.

Remember when ESPN had the "JACKED-UP" segment where they showed the top 10 BIG HITS of the weekend? Thats because defense in the NFL is about big hits, or was until Roger tried to turn it into a Flag Football League.

Its great to protect players, but protect the GAME too and don't let these weak calls dictate the outcome of the game, like they did in this case.

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 5:19 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Lets see.  Clarks hit drew a flag and Ray Rays didnt.  Wonder if the Ravens will take their refs with them to Seattle this weekend? 

Since: Dec 16, 2009
Posted on: November 9, 2011 5:16 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Why don't you learn how to spell arrive? Using punctuations will eliminate all the run on sentences. Ryan Clark is not the only player talking about the unfairness in which defenders are being fined. This is a physical league or it used to be. Roger Goodell has changed the complexion of the game and it appears that any form of defense is being outlawed. This is a game to be played by men and hard hits are expected. It's obvious you don't know anything about the Steelers. because Ryan Clark is one of the more soft spoken players and a very good player. This used to be a league defined by "BIG HITS" and no one does it better than Clark. He has a right to be upset and to voice his displeasure at what is happening in this league, just like all the other defenders from other teams have been doing. The referees need to be more consistent with making these calls, one week a call is made and the next week it's not. Players are having a difficult time understanding what is legal and illegal. HELL! The referees don't even know how to officiate the games anymore: with all the rule changes. Making a play on the ball before it arrive is usually called a pass interference in the NFL!!! lol. Secondly, the defenders have been taught to seperate the player from the ball. This was legal at one time before ole softy Roger Goodell took over as commissioner. Tongue out I guess the defenders should just walk up to the receivers and ask if it's okay if they can tackle them now. Yell

Since: Nov 6, 2009
Posted on: November 9, 2011 4:59 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Not a Steelers fan, so don't watch them weekly, so this is based on one game.
I believe Clark deserves much more in fines.  He hit players on the ground -
after the whistle - 4 times that I can remember. 

Although oddly, I agree that the hit on Dickson was not malicious.  It seemed
to be a pretty solid hit and an unintentional helmet to helmet (if I remember

Since: Mar 14, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 4:51 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

How'd you guys handle the mighty Titans??  How 'bout that juggernaut from Jacksonville??  Baltimore has done nothing but won two preseason games - nothing more...

Since: Sep 24, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 4:46 pm

Ryan Clark fined $40K, Ray Lewis fined $20K

Hey Black and Gold Posse......can I get you a Whaaaaaaaaaambulance?

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