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Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

Posted on: November 12, 2011 12:37 pm
Edited on: November 12, 2011 1:14 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



Have you -- like us -- become bored with the Redskins quarterback situation over the past few weeks? Are you wondering where the usual drama seeping out of D.C. has gone? Do you think the offense lacks the appropriate combustibility under John Beck? Do you -- gasp -- miss Rex Grossman?

If so, here's some good news: Grossman and Beck reportedly split first-team reps in practice all week!

That's according to Mike Jones of the Washington Post, who cites three sources "with knowledge of the situation" who tell him that Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan (the Shaniclan) had Beck give up half of his first-team reps to Grossman this week.

What does this mean? Perhaps Grossman is finally over "the flu" and ready to resume his normal quarterbacking duties and the Shanahans just want to get him maximum action in practice.

More likely, Shanahan is sending a message to Beck that he's on a very short leash this week against the Dolphins this week. As he should be; we've been saying for a while now that there's a decent chance the Redskins find a way to lose out this year.


When Beck initially started against the Panthers, there was some optimism (we guarded against it!) after he posted a pair of scores against Carolina. That optimism disappeared as Mike was handed his first career coaching shutout when Buffalo sacked Beck 10 (!) times in Toronto.

Over the past eight quarters, the offense has mustered 11 points. The Redskins have lost their last four games, and the only thing that's looking like a surprise about their 2011 season is the opening-week win against the Giants.

In short, Beck's been absolutely ineffective. Grossman, as we noted in last week's "Sorting the Sunday Pile," is also quite bad. But Grossman has the explosiveness that Beck lacks, and that actually gives the Redskins a shot at passing the ball further than 16 yards in a game.

Sure, that explosiveness can also result in a four-pick implosion, but the risk of rolling Rex out there, if the Redskins actually hope to compete the rest of this year, is worth it, given what we've seen from Beck this year. It seems like the Shanahans are starting to figure that out too.

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Comments

Since: Aug 13, 2009
Posted on: November 13, 2011 9:58 am
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

there is a cliche in football: if you have 2 starting QBs, you don't have a starting QB.  The idea was that no matter how good your 2 QBs may be, even if it's Joe Montana and Steve Young. If you can't or haven't made a decision  yet, if you haven't annointed one and made him the definite leader of the offense, than you have nothing.

If that's a problem when you have 2 GOOD QBs, imagine how bad it is when you're choosing between.... Rex Grossman and.... John Beck.

Is it too late to suck for Luck?

Yes it is.

Before the 'Skins start looking for a QB, they should hire a GM. How many other teams have gone so long without having a top QB? McNabb at the end of his usefulness? Campbell, Brunell, Ramsey, Tony Banks? Their last decent QB was Brad Johnson in 1999-2000. They're one of only 11 teams not to have been in the playoffs in the last 3 years, and of the 8 teams with a longer playoff-less streak then them, five (Oakland, SF, Buffalo, Detroit and Houston) are looking good for a spot this year.

This is what happens when you don't have a real GM...



Since: Jul 22, 2009
Posted on: November 13, 2011 7:53 am
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

Niether Beck or Grossman can lead this team. The lack of commitment either way, shows the players that the coaches have no idea either. Injury problems, lack of a running game, poor defensive backfield play, offensive line problems and overall malase in the locker room can lead to only one end result... they will be lucky to win another game this season. Will the dissapointment ever end?




Since: Jan 16, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2011 3:41 am
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

I've got it! See,  Grossman can move the ball but turns it over. Beck doesn't turn it over, but he also can't move the ball. THUS, put Grossman in to move the ball past mid-field. Then before he throws the inevitable pick, put Beck in there. We will score 7 FG's every game, keep the D well rested and win 7 of the last 8 by scores like 21-17 to win the division. YAyyyyyyyyy! LMAO..



Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: November 12, 2011 11:37 pm
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

Campbell wasnt Shanahan's quarterback, plus, i think he was more average anyway, they thought McNabb would be great and then were proven wrong. i still to this day dont know why they passed on Gabbert.



Since: Aug 19, 2011
Posted on: November 12, 2011 9:29 pm
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

Campbell, McNabb, Grossman, Beck.....Each move Shanahan makes is making it worse. What was wrong with Jason Campbell? Didn't fit the "can't miss" Shanahan system?



Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: November 12, 2011 8:03 pm
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

Choosing between Grossman and Beck. 

In the words of Triumph the Insult Comic Dog:  "It's like choosing which puddle of vomit to lick."



Since: Mar 11, 2008
Posted on: November 12, 2011 7:13 pm
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

The owner of the Washington Redskins has never showed anyone that he knows how to manage and operate a winning NFL team. And his hiring of Mike Shanahan and allowing Shanahan to bring his son in as the Offensive Coordinator is a great example of the owner's inability to understand what it takes to win playoff games, let alone reach the playoffs. Nepotism at its finest in the NFL or, as Jerry Glanville once said, "The Not For Long League."


In the beginning at Denver, Shanahan created a great playoff winning football program. But, towards the end of Jake Plummer's playing days, he became more interested in making money for himself and his family at the expense of the team's continued success. 
;Washington is going nowhere until Shanahan and his son are dismissed from the team and the owner brings in a GM who knows how to win playoff games.


Grossman is a much better QB than Beck could ever be, yet Shanahan has managed to destroy Grossman's confidence by talking out of both sides of his mouth to Grossman. On one hand, he tells Grossman to go ahead and take the risks to throw the ball up for the receivers to fight for and make plays. Then, out of the other side of his mouth, he tells him that he's an idiot for throwing into tight coverage.


The Washington owners would do himself a favor by analyzing the Arizona Cardinal ownership; for too many years, the Cardinals were the multi-decade leader in underachieving. Then, Bill Bidwell turns the reigns over to his son, Michael, and voila, they get a new stadium, new coaches, better players and are now always around the playoffs.


Lastly, the NFL coaches need to stop giving the QB's so many convoluted formations and plays to remember. These poor QB's today are concentrating so much on how to execute the play, they no longer have the ability to physically play the game. Their heads are full of crap! All little Shanahan has to do is tell the fastest guy on the team to run a post,tell the lineman to hold blocks for four seconds, keep both tight ends in for blocking and tell Grossman you've got three straight downs to throw the ball to the fast guy going towards to post. By the time the DEF caught on that Grossman is throwing the ball all the time, something he can do well, he might then call a draw play or a counter gap run play to really screw up the DEF. At least that would be more interesting to watch from the stands or TV.     &n
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Since: Oct 13, 2007
Posted on: November 12, 2011 6:49 pm
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

Congrats to Mike Shanahan, you ruined the Skins' year by pulling Grossman after 1 horrible game and putting in Beck, who has 0 wins. Nice job, the rest of the NFC east thanks you.
Grossman has bad games, but at least he can put points on the board. I've never seen such a boneheaded coaching move by pulling a QB that has given your team a winning record (when the rest of the world thought you would be cellar dwellers) after one bad game. What a joke.



Since: Aug 10, 2008
Posted on: November 12, 2011 5:35 pm
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

How can this be?  Doesn't EVERYONE KNOW that Grossman is a bum and a loser?  Doesn't EVERYONE KNOW that Beck is the answer and the best qb on the roster?  How can this be?  Looks like the media's hatred for Rexy was irrational after all!



Since: Aug 25, 2009
Posted on: November 12, 2011 5:13 pm
 

Report: Beck, Grossman splitting first-team reps

Grossman lost his job bc of one bad game against the Jets...The Jet Defense is very strong and can do that several times per year to good teams...Many Star Qbs have thrown 3+ picks this year...Brady has done it twice...Ive seen Beck these last few weeks and i cannon believe that anyone in their right mind feels that he gives the Redskins a better chance to win than Grossman...Truth be told, the Redskins are irrelevant in the NFC East anyway but give the QB duties to the man who deserves it...


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