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Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Posted on: November 15, 2011 3:00 pm
Edited on: November 16, 2011 6:00 am
 
Things got chippy between Chicago and Detroit Sunday, and the NFL will no doubt punish them accordingly. (Getty Images)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

If the Lions were as aggressive between the whistles as they were after it against the Bears on Sunday, the final score would've been a lot closer than 37-13. Instead, Chicago's defense took advantage of four Matthew Stafford interceptions (including two pick-sixes), Devin Hester added a special-teams touchdown, and Jay Cutler and the offense just got out of the way.

Well, they tried to anyway.

Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh ripped Cutler's helmet off after a tackle (he called it "part of the game"). Later in the game, Suh's teammate, Nick Fairley, drove Cutler into the turf on a late hit. (See here and here for the video evidence.)

Stafford also started a fight when, following his third interception, he brought Bears' cornerback D.J. Moore  to the ground by grabbing his helmet (see the video below). Moore, unimpressed, went after Stafford and just like that, it was on like Donkey Kong.

"I thought the play on Stafford was a little bit over the line," Lions linebacker Justin Durant said, according to MLive.com's Anwar Richardson. "That's how I feel about it. He was just trying to make a play. He had thrown an interception and was trying to get there. The guy just took it overboard."

Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher, appearing on ESPN Radio Chicago, had a different take on the play.

“Their defense was saying something to our sideline late in the game after D.J. Moore beat up their quarterback [Matthew Stafford]. They said some stuff to our sidelines. I don’t know what…their defense was saying something to our sidelines. I don’t know what it was, but there is ways to handle things and there is ways to not handle things. I don’t know…they are a good football team. No doubt about that. They don’t do very good when they get beat up I guess.”

You can judge for yourself if Moore beat up Stafford:


The Lions and Bears mix it up after Stafford takes down Jennings.

Either way, both teams can expect heavy fines, and Durant realizes as much.

"I can imagine some people will have some $20,000 fines," he said. "I'm not sure who was doing what or if anybody was throwing blows. … One time when I was in Jacksonville, we had a fight against the Titans and a couple of guys came off the sidelines and they got fined just for stepping across the sidelines. More than likely, there are going to be some fines."

Using history and the NFL's haphazard approach to punishing players as a guide, we'd wager that, yes, there will be a lot of fines coming out of this.

Lions wide receiver Nate Burelson added: "If you go out there and throw some blows, you got to expect that FedEx letter in your locker."

Much of the conversation this season has been about how the Lions, and Suh in particular, are dirty. Here are two examples from last season that had people so worked up.


Suh explained his approach to the game during an appearance on ESPN's First Take.

"I like to punish the quarterback. I like to punish running backs for them trying to make plays on my defense," he said. "Whether it's dirty or aggressive or whatever that may be, we're going to continue to play that way and make sure we stand up and make sure teams don't run over us."

Urlacher was asked if he thought the Lions were dirty.

“You know what? They play to the echo of the whistle," he said, via Sports Radio Interviews. "As a player you can’t be mad because that is the way the game should be played. They play fast and they play physical and sometimes they go a little bit too far, but you know what? Sometimes you get away with it. …

"I like their head coach. I will tell you that much. I think he has done a good job for that organization and he’s a hard-nosed guy. He wants his guys to play, so I can’t be mad at him, but you don’t like it when you are playing against them because it pisses you off, but you know what they do a good job and they play hard.”

To recap: the Lions aren't dirty, but both teams should expect to be a little lighter in the wallet this week.

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:58 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

I think the Lions are collectively pissed at how they have been playing lately.  It  gets old throwing pick 6's and losing...especially after such a successful start.

Why? Because they lost to a Falcons team that won 13 games the year before?  A SF team that's lost once so far this season?  A good Bears team on the road?  Listen man, the Lions stunk up the joint in Chicago, bad game.   But those 2 other games could have gone either way.  For God sakes the 49'ers scored by the nose of the football on a 4th down conversion or the Lions win that one.  It's not like the Lions get blown out every week.... this is the first time it happened this year, and it ended a 6 game road winning streak which is brutally tough to do in the NFL regardless of who you play.

I love the passion the Lions are FINALLY showing.  Do they get out of hand here and there? Sure they do.  But people need to relax and understand football is a violent sport.  The Lions didn't exactly invent late hits on quarterbacks or pulling another player's helmut off, those things happen pretty well every single week.   The NFL fines multiple players througout the league most weeks... once again, the Lions aren't exactly leading the way in that category.

And for the record, I think Suh has a whopping 3 fines on his record. Counting pre-season games he's probably played in around 30 games.  And wasn't the last time he was fined in the pre-season? I don't remember....  I still say the fine for hitting Cutler a while back who crossed the line of scrimmage running with the ball was stupid..... what's he supposed to do, yell "please stop".....??????      If he catches up to him and suddenly Cutler would have decided to slide, it's a late hit..... if he doesn't catch him it's a first down...  just stupid. 


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Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:51 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:40 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Tough road ahead for the Lions:

Carolina (W), Packers (L), at New Orleans (L), Vikings (W), at Oakland (L), San Diego (W), at Packers (L).  That's 3-4, which gets them to 9-7 for the season.  Probably not good enough to get a playoff berth.

Bears have a much more favorable schedule left:

San Diego (W), at Oakland (L), Kansas City (W), at Denver (W), Seattle (W), at Green Bay (L), at Minnesota (W).  Bears go 5-2 which gets them to 11-5 for the season.  Not too many teams miss the playoffs with 11 wins. 

Gmalis.  Your predictions look pretty good and pretty realistic, no doubt about it.  But here's a couple things for you to think about. First of all as you know there are 2 wildcard spots.  Let's assume the Bears get one, who's to say the Lions can't get the other? Nobody in the NFC West is getting a wildcard. The Eagles and Skins need to go 6-1 the rest of the way to win 9 games, no way.  Dallas?  Do they go 5-2 to win 10 games? 9 wins means the Lions win the tie breaker if that's all the Lions win. Tampa needs to go 6-1 the rest of the way to win 10,  because at 9 the Lions win the tie breaker there as well.  The only team that I believe can beat the Lions out because the win the tie breaker is Atlanta... they need to go 4-3 to win 9 games... which could happen, but that's why they play the games,,, nobody knows.  If Atlanta slumps, Detroit's potentially in with 9.  

Finally, although I already said your predictions look good, we don't really know what's going to happen... the NFL is nicknamed the "no figure league" for a reason.... it's a crazy league man.  Let's keep it simple.  The last week of the season is when teams rest players for the playoffs, so the Lions might have a chance in Green Bay.   And with the way the Lions have played on the road since near the end of last season winning 6 of their last 7, I wouldn't be surprised if they win in Oakland.  Oakland has been horrid outside their division for years..... 

We'll see what happens, but I'm not convinced the Lions miss the playoffs quite yet.  That being said, the new Lions regime has done a great job the last 3 years.  A couple good o-linemen and another running back to compliment Best next season ( Leshoure) and a running game will help Stafford become an even better quarterback.   And while we're on Stafford, people need to chill out about that kid.  He played 10 games in his rookie year and 3 games last year, this might be his first full season.  Give him a running game and the Lions might be a lot better sooner then people think.

 



Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2011 11:01 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Theres something you guys seem to be overlooking here. There is a huge difference between a good clean hard hit and the late take three steps and drive the quarterback into the ground type of hit Theres a big difference between a hard shoulder to shoulder hit such as Briggs on Johnson and tearing a quarterbacks helmet off such as Suh's. There is a Gigantic difference between a good clean slobber knocker hit that leaves your opponent seeing stars, and pulling other players helmets off and trying to cause injury. I'll take a good clean hard hit any day, you can have Suh!



Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:43 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

im not even a lions fan but all the talk of detroit playing dirty is getting old. football is at its core a violent sport where the goal is to kick the guys ass across from you. no one is crying about the clothesline hit peppers put on calvin johnson or moore wanting to fight the quarterback. get a grip! one writer puts something in print and it takes off because most "journalists" dont have an original thought in their head



Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:35 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

I agree with all except last game at pack. unless green bay is going for perfect season, they will have nothing to play for and will rest many regulars. this would make lions 10 and 6 and probably in



Since: May 26, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:30 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Tough road ahead for the Lions:

Carolina (W), Packers (L), at New Orleans (L), Vikings (W), at Oakland (L), San Diego (W), at Packers (L).  That's 3-4, which gets them to 9-7 for the season.  Probably not good enough to get a playoff berth.

Bears have a much more favorable schedule left:

San Diego (W), at Oakland (L), Kansas City (W), at Denver (W), Seattle (W), at Green Bay (L), at Minnesota (W).  Bears go 5-2 which gets them to 11-5 for the season.  Not too many teams miss the playoffs with 11 wins.

Sorry Lions fans.  Although your team is on the rise, they still miss the playoffs yet again this year. 



Since: Aug 13, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:26 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

How can Urlacher possibly be the dirtiest player in the division?  He doesn't rip off helmets or give late cheap shots like the Lions.  Every player on the Lions D is dirtier than Urlacher.



Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 10:11 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Hey Suh, you really think you're not a dirty player? Continually ripping the helmut's off of QB's, the fines, the warnings? These are called clues. You do know that this is a QB league don't you? So if you twist the headgear off of a top tier QB and injure him for any amount of time, are you going to be able to understand why you've been suspended for the year? Are you truly that clueless?
Here's how you are able to tell if what you are doing is wrong. If the NFL keeps taking your money. Time after time.
As for Fairley. When you drive a QB into the ground, well after the play is over, you should be suspended. That act was intended to injure. Not, I repeat NOT just part of the game.
The person to hang the blame on is Schwartz. He won't reign them in. So the NFL should try this, if they continue to act in a unprofessional manner, he will be subject to the same fines/suspensions as the perpetrators.
I do love hard hitting football, but not cheap, headhunting.
And you actually wonder why you're getting a reputation as a dirty player/team?


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