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Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Posted on: November 15, 2011 3:00 pm
Edited on: November 16, 2011 6:00 am
 
Things got chippy between Chicago and Detroit Sunday, and the NFL will no doubt punish them accordingly. (Getty Images)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

If the Lions were as aggressive between the whistles as they were after it against the Bears on Sunday, the final score would've been a lot closer than 37-13. Instead, Chicago's defense took advantage of four Matthew Stafford interceptions (including two pick-sixes), Devin Hester added a special-teams touchdown, and Jay Cutler and the offense just got out of the way.

Well, they tried to anyway.

Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh ripped Cutler's helmet off after a tackle (he called it "part of the game"). Later in the game, Suh's teammate, Nick Fairley, drove Cutler into the turf on a late hit. (See here and here for the video evidence.)

Stafford also started a fight when, following his third interception, he brought Bears' cornerback D.J. Moore  to the ground by grabbing his helmet (see the video below). Moore, unimpressed, went after Stafford and just like that, it was on like Donkey Kong.

"I thought the play on Stafford was a little bit over the line," Lions linebacker Justin Durant said, according to MLive.com's Anwar Richardson. "That's how I feel about it. He was just trying to make a play. He had thrown an interception and was trying to get there. The guy just took it overboard."

Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher, appearing on ESPN Radio Chicago, had a different take on the play.

“Their defense was saying something to our sideline late in the game after D.J. Moore beat up their quarterback [Matthew Stafford]. They said some stuff to our sidelines. I don’t know what…their defense was saying something to our sidelines. I don’t know what it was, but there is ways to handle things and there is ways to not handle things. I don’t know…they are a good football team. No doubt about that. They don’t do very good when they get beat up I guess.”

You can judge for yourself if Moore beat up Stafford:


The Lions and Bears mix it up after Stafford takes down Jennings.

Either way, both teams can expect heavy fines, and Durant realizes as much.

"I can imagine some people will have some $20,000 fines," he said. "I'm not sure who was doing what or if anybody was throwing blows. … One time when I was in Jacksonville, we had a fight against the Titans and a couple of guys came off the sidelines and they got fined just for stepping across the sidelines. More than likely, there are going to be some fines."

Using history and the NFL's haphazard approach to punishing players as a guide, we'd wager that, yes, there will be a lot of fines coming out of this.

Lions wide receiver Nate Burelson added: "If you go out there and throw some blows, you got to expect that FedEx letter in your locker."

Much of the conversation this season has been about how the Lions, and Suh in particular, are dirty. Here are two examples from last season that had people so worked up.


Suh explained his approach to the game during an appearance on ESPN's First Take.

"I like to punish the quarterback. I like to punish running backs for them trying to make plays on my defense," he said. "Whether it's dirty or aggressive or whatever that may be, we're going to continue to play that way and make sure we stand up and make sure teams don't run over us."

Urlacher was asked if he thought the Lions were dirty.

“You know what? They play to the echo of the whistle," he said, via Sports Radio Interviews. "As a player you can’t be mad because that is the way the game should be played. They play fast and they play physical and sometimes they go a little bit too far, but you know what? Sometimes you get away with it. …

"I like their head coach. I will tell you that much. I think he has done a good job for that organization and he’s a hard-nosed guy. He wants his guys to play, so I can’t be mad at him, but you don’t like it when you are playing against them because it pisses you off, but you know what they do a good job and they play hard.”

To recap: the Lions aren't dirty, but both teams should expect to be a little lighter in the wallet this week.

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Comments

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:42 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

After watching all the videos above, in my opinion, Suh nad Fairley are both scum, especially Suh. You can get a tough, hard-nosed player without punching QBs in the back of the head and trying to break their necks/rip their helmet off. Football is a violent sport, I get that, and I admire Suh's talent, especially his brute strength. But taking cheap shots on players half your size like in the videos above doesn't make you a tough guy, it makes you a pussy.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:34 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Urlacher has to be  even-keeled on questions referring to other teams and players. So I will speak the truth for Bear Fans. The Lions are Dirty as Hell! From the  head coach on down. Harbaugh simply shook the mans hand and because he didnt like the hand shake he chases after Jim to confront him and commits a crime (battery) against the opposing coach. What kind of example is that. Suh, Farley, Stafford and other Lions players are all  young and undisciplend, and if they think that intentionally trying to hurt another player is the way the game should be played is compleatly absurd. The Lions are a classless organization and will never when anything. Keep your head down bumbs.



Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:32 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

I agree with these last few posts about the Stafford and Moore deal.  I am not so sure about the Fairley deal.  When I watched it in regular time I did not think it was so bad.  So I waited for a replay to decide for myself how it went down, but every time they showed a replay it was in slow motion and just the last part of the play.  Any time you slow things down they look a lot worse than what they are.

Of course, I think this "protect the QB" rule that has been in the league is a crock, so maybe that colors my view.  But I would like to see it real time again.



Since: Dec 4, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:21 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

I seem to recall the Bears winning at half time in game one and lost by 11 while this game was really never that close and ended up a 24 pt win after a late Lions TD.  Not to mention the Bears have now won three in a row and the Lions have lost 3 of 4..... If they were to play again next week everyone would pick the Bears even though the season "score?" is 1-1



Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2011 6:01 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

There isn't a team in the NFL that would love to have Suh or Fairly playing for them.  I suspect that a lot of the whining is due to the fact that they are not afraid to kick some butt and don't apologize for it at all.  Last I checked, that's how football is supposed to  be played.



Since: Apr 29, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 5:56 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Very well said, dapigpen. I'm a die hard Lions fan and I agree with everything you said (although you omitted Moore getting ejected for coming back after Stafford which was the correct call) right down to the penalties that should have been called on the Lions for that play.



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 5:55 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Some of these posts are ridiculous.   Do you people read what you type before hitting the send button.  Bottom line is it's football (and I am a Bears fan).  Stafford should have be penalized, period.  Moore should have been penalized, period.  The Lions should have been penalized for hitting the Bears DB out of bounds, period.  Suh ripping off Cutlers helmet - that was football and it just happened - no intent.  Fairly was penalized - good call.  Anyone who came off the bench to participate in the melee should have been ejected, period (both sides).  Unfortunately this all could have been avoided if the refs would have called the play dead because the DB was down by contact - so in other words - it was poor officiating.  I doubt most of you even watched the game, so if you didn't - do so and then resend.  To all whiners, both Bears and Lions fans, have a nice day
This may be one of the most intelligent, well thought out posts I have ever read on these boards.

I am a die hard Lions fan -- My take on it all:

Stafford should have been penalized, but wasn't.  Moore's reaction after the play will be looked upon much more harshly by the NFL, than what Stafford did.  Personally, I think it should just be a wash and both teams move along.  The NFL will hand out some big fines though, as it is money in their pocket and will come up with an excuse like -- we can't have players taking it upon themselves after the whistle, blah, blah, blah.

Suh's play -- THIS TIME, he didn't intentionally rip off the helmet.  With his history thus far in the league, I'm sure he will get a fine, but the helmet coming off had as much to do with how Cutler went down as anything else.

Fairley's hit -- I love how hard the guy plays, but there is no need for what he did.  He could have let up and definitely didn't need to drive Cutler down and have the crown of his helmet go up under the facemask.  The refs made the correct call.  I'm sure with the way the NFL handles these things now, he will get fined.

 



Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 5:27 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

I seem to recall the Lions handing the Bears a butt kicking on Monday Night Football not all that long ago. Bears fans are acting like they swept the Lions, when in fact the score is 1-1.


Sportsfans have short memories, the way I see it, the team that is playing in January gets the last laugh anyways. The Lions are going through some growing pains, that is for sure. I see this team getting better from this slump, use it as motivation, and get better. Bears fans can say what they want about not being ready, this is a different Lions team, they wont just roll over and I gaurantee that. I think they win at least four more games. It will be a fight for 2nd place in the division, if anybody thinks this knocks the Lions out of it, they are mistaken. And Urlacher and everybody else on the Bears knows it. I hope both of them make the playoffs, and that is possible. Dont think they would play again this year (it would be really unlikely) but I love it that the North is one of the best divisions in football. You know if your team wins this division, they got a heck of a chance at winning in the playoffs.  



Since: Sep 11, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2011 5:25 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

Some of these posts are ridiculous.   Do you people read what you type before hitting the send button.  Bottom line is it's football (and I am a Bears fan).  Stafford should have be penalized, period.  Moore should have been penalized, period.  The Lions should have been penalized for hitting the Bears DB out of bounds, period.  Suh ripping off Cutlers helmet - that was football and it just happened - no intent.  Fairly was penalized - good call.  Anyone who came off the bench to participate in the melee should have been ejected, period (both sides).  Unfortunately this all could have been avoided if the refs would have called the play dead because the DB was down by contact - so in other words - it was poor officiating.  I doubt most of you even watched the game, so if you didn't - do so and then resend.  To all whiners, both Bears and Lions fans, have a nice day





Since: Jan 11, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 5:23 pm
 

Suh says Lions aren't dirty, Urlacher agrees

The Lions have been thought of as a pushover on the schedule for as long as I can remember. If I was a Lions fan, I would love all of these labels that my team was getting. It means that they play very hard and play to win and give total effort. The dirty team label is just a result of them not being anyone's pushover anymore. They play hard and play to win. I would take that effort from my team any day! Every body quit whining! It's football!


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