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Fox regrets comments about Tebow

Posted on: November 18, 2011 11:00 pm
Edited on: November 19, 2011 1:12 pm
 
Turns out, Fox is Tebow's biggest fan. (US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

In the post-Tebowalyptic light of day, Broncos coach John Fox looks sorta silly for some comments that, not long ago, sounded perfectly reasonable given that his starting quarterback struggled to throw anything other than screen passes.

Earlier this week, NFL.com's Jeff Darlington quoted Fox as saying, "If we were trying to run a regular offense (with Tebow), he'd be screwed."

The thing is, Fox is telling the truth. We all saw the Lions game. The Broncos -- and Tebow -- were abused for 60 minutes, and it prompted an anonymous Detroit player to tell Yahoo.com's Michael Silver afterwards: “Can you believe No. 15 [Tebow]? Come on – that’s embarrassing. I mean, it’s a joke. We knew all week that if we brought any kind of defensive pressure, he couldn’t do anything. In the second half it got boring out there. We were like, ‘Come on – that’s your quarterback? Seriously?’”

You know how you make Tebow less boring? Quit passing the ball. Or, as Fox said, quit trying to run a regular offense.

On Friday, a day after the Broncos beat the Jets on some last-second Tebow heroics, Fox took the blame for his previous remarks.

"I screwed up," he said Monday, according to the Denver Post's Mike Klis. "What bothers me about that quote is I love the guy. All I was talking about was how this is a different way to run the ball. Everybody wants to put a name on it. All we're doing is tweaking the running game so we match up with what Tim does well. And I'm telling you, he's getting better as a passer. He is improving."

We mentioned it in the latest edition of the Tebow Tracker but style points don't matter. The Broncos, one of the league's worst teams a month ago, are suddenly is in the mix for the AFC West crown. Yeah, Denver is now running a high school offense, but they're also 5-5, and 4-1 with Tebow as their starter. If nothing else, give them credit for not trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Fox knows he has a monster truck. And instead of drag-racing he's headed to the mega monster truck rally where he can compete ("It's this SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!). The other side of that argument? What John Harbaugh and Cam Cameron are doing with the Ravens offense.


""But that was one time where I lost sleep over it," Fox said. "I don't ever lose sleep over things like this, but I felt terrible about (my comments). We were 1-4 and now we're 5-5. Believe me, I'm Tim Tebow's biggest fan."

On Tuesday, Jets head coach Rex Ryan admitted that Tebow's style was, shall we say, unconventional. “Are there prettier passers than him? Yeah, absolutely. But again, [we] just [have to] try to find a way to beat him.”

That clearly didn't happen. Luckily, Rex's twin brother Rob, the Cowboys' defensive coordinator, has some thoughts on Tebow and the read-option.

“I don’t like it because it’s college football,” Ryan said Friday at Valley Ranch, via the Star-Telegram. “We’re getting a lot of two tight ends blocking for empty sets. Who would have ever thought that? This is the NFL. Those teams don’t win.”

When someone pointed out that Denver did just that when Tebow scored on a 20-yard run, Ryan responded, “Thanks for pointing that out. The guy made a hell of a play, though, didn’t he?

“Just a second. I’ll take a knee myself.”

We eagerly await Rob Ryan's next smiting.

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Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: November 19, 2011 9:34 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

 Point conceded...and it's NEVER been argued.
I wouldn't go that far. It was argued rather heatedly for a while. Of course, now only the crazy people keep arguing, but there were a lot of people pointing to his college career and insisting Tebow could rack up 3,000 yards through the air.
With an "NFL-skilled" quarterback the Broncos were 1-4 with NO chance of making the playoffs.

With Tebow at quarterback the Broncos are a playoff-bound team...
Again, I wouldn't go that far. The 1-4 team did not have the defense the current team has. They took a while to settle into the new scheme, and they had injuries. Ditto the offense, but that's harder to judge with the way they've mixed it up. They certainly would be running a different offense, one that was new to Orton (hence the uncharacteristic number of turnovers).

I also wouldn't call them playoff-bound just yet. Looking at their schedule and the Raiders', they appear to be fighting for a wildcard spot, and I just don't think they'll have the record for it. If Carson Palmer continues to improve (and there's no rational reason to expect otherwise), the AFC West is Oakland's to lose.



Since: Dec 18, 2010
Posted on: November 19, 2011 9:07 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

it's a little early to pass judgement on this guy either good or bad.......but so far with him in the game Denver has won more games than they've lost..........at the end of the season we'll know if other teams figured out a way to stop him, or he can be judged a winner based on the team's record........If I were a Denver fan, all I know is I'm a lot happier than I was a month ago.........if he ever learns to pass the football, look out...........on my sports betting site last week, the over/under prop on his passing yards was 116.5, and he had 31 passing yard on his first drive.....I think he finished the game with 104.......based on those stats he doesn't look like an NFL quarterback......but those wins mean a lot more than passing yardage stats...... 



Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 8:07 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

No one argues that Tebow has the skill set that Aaron Rodgers does.  People who are against Tebow seem to think that they have to convince people of that.  You don't have anyone to argue with.  He doesn't have good passing or pocket skills.  Point conceded...and it's NEVER been argued.

BUT...from my understanding owners own teams to (1) make a profit and (2) win the Super Bowl.  These are the ONLY objectives for an NFL owner.  Owners do not own teams to have a NFL-skilled quarterback sit in the pocket and pass.  THAT is not the objective of any owner!  It is to (1) make a profit and (2) win the Super Bowl.

With an "NFL-skilled" quarterback the Broncos were 1-4 with NO chance of making the playoffs.

With Tebow at quarterback the Broncos are a playoff-bound team, and the bottom-line is surely getting better (this happens when teams actually win games).

Tebow is a WINNER!  People with a poverty mindset, who are uncomfortable winning, are envious of those who do.  He's a WINNER, get over it! 



Since: Jan 3, 2008
Posted on: November 19, 2011 7:28 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

can we blow tebow up anymore??  this is a scheme offense.  tebow is one dimentional.  this is the nfl!  when they figure this scheme out, then tebow will be exposed for what he is..(or is not).  he is not the second coming, this whole holy roller thing works for him, gets him fans.  please people, he is NOT NOT NOT an nfl quarterback!  you shall see soon! Just because you are a competitor, does not mean you belong in the nfl..hell, i am a competitor...can I be a quarterback?????



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 6:53 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

Who cares what kind of offense is run as long as the team wins? The questions about Tim Tebow's ability to pass appear legitimate to me, he looks terrible in the pocket. But he is a competitor and the offense that was installed to accomodate his skills has worked to win a few games - that is a sign of good coaching, adapting the playing scheme to the skills of the players you have. Too many so called "great" coaches come in with their game plans and demand that players adapt to their scheme whether they have the skills to carry it out or not.

During the Jets - Broncos game, they flashed an interesting set of stats - they showed John Elway's statistics in his first seven games compared against Tim Tebow's. So far, Tebow has him beat. Unfortunately, Tim Tebow does not have the same skills that John Elway had and likely never will so do not expect to see him in the Hall of Fame - but why not ride him as long as the team is winning?



Since: Nov 27, 2010
Posted on: November 19, 2011 6:47 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

This is untrue. Example Big Ben. He came off the bench and went 15 - 1 . That's mighty impressive for a rookie. Some rookies take time to adjust to the games speed. There are a few rookies that come out and play really well. If they have the speed of the game down then they can be a starter right out of the gate.



Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: November 19, 2011 6:39 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

Speaking strictly about football and nothing else, and I mean nothing else (no "character issues" on either side, please)...what exactly is the difference between the way Tebow plays and the way that the younger Vick played.  In his earlier days, Vick was as much or more of a runner than he was a passer and used that running ability to push Atlanta to wins.  Of course, Vick has matured in his style of play and has learned to be a passer.  Tebow will obviously have to learn to do the same.



Since: May 8, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 5:17 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

The other young QB's in the league like Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, etc must love Tebow. He gets so much media attention, that you barely hear about Dalton for example, and the guy has turned the freakin' Bengals around! It just never ceases to amaze me the way media, and more specifically, social media, affect the game today. 

I also had to point out, though I also think Rex Ryan is a big fat idiot, I don't think it was necessary to make it so obvious with your writing, although I must admit it made me chuckle.

"But again, [we] just [have to] try to find a way to beat him.” 

 



Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 5:15 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

People are to quick to hate and seem eager to do so.  Give the kid a chance which means give him some time. If you go back to all the qb superstars, all of them struggled early.  Not to so say Tebow will be on that level but if we give him a chance he might be fun to watch - plus he's a nice kid with class.



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 3:37 am
 

Fox regrets comments about Tebow

You make a good point, David. 1st year staters have historically struggled when transitioning from college to the pros. Though his completion percentage is atrocious, Tebow has only thrown one interception thus far and in his first two seasons, he has 21 total touchdowns to 9 turnovers.


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