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Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games, will appeal

Posted on: November 29, 2011 10:28 am
Edited on: November 29, 2011 3:54 pm
 
Posted by Will Brinson



As CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman noted earlier, Ndamukong Suh was suspended two games without pay by the NFL on Tuesday for his actions in Detroit's loss to Green Bay on Thanksgiving.

Suh received the suspension due to the fact that the incident in the Packers-Lions game was Suh's fifth on-field violation over the past two years, according to the NFL.

"NFL Vice President of Football Operations Merton Hanks notified Ndamukong Suh today that he has been suspended without pay for the Lions' next two games for his unsportsmanlike conduct in the Lions-Packers game on Thanksgiving Day," a statement from the NFL, obtained by Freeman, reads. "It was Suh's fifth violation of on-field rules in the past two seasons that has resulted in league discipline. Suh may not practice or be at the team practice facility for any other activities during the two-game suspension.

"He will be reinstated on December 12. Under the CBA, the suspension may be appealed within three business days. If appealed, an expedited hearing and decision would take place this week in advance of this weekend's games."

Suh drew a lot of criticism for his decision not to apologize for his actions, then apologize via Facebook (!), then finally call Roger Goodell on Sunday night and apologize for his actions on Thursday.

Suh isn't the only one who stands to lose money here ($164,000, to be exact). The Lions could also be a little lighter in their proverbial wallets. Freeman explains:

"League rules stipulate that when a player is suspended or fined, the amount of the fine, up to a maximum of $50,000 per infraction, counts towards a club's season total.

"If a team reaches $100,000 in fines the club must forfeit $50,000. If a team reaches $150,000, then it must forfeit an additional $25,000, and match any subsequent fine/suspension amounts for remainder of season.

So, bottom line, the Suh suspension put the Lions over that $100,000 season total. Lions players have already been fined at least that much this season so not only is that $100,000 mark already likely been reached, the next mark could be as well. The team fine would happen at the end of the season once all appeals and reductions are accounted for."

There's more (of course there is): a source close to the embattled defensive tackle tells Freeman that Suh has appealed his suspension. "Suh was urged, I'm told, by union and others that suspension was heavy handed and he should appeal. He officially has."

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Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 7:40 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games, will appeal

rsteele63-

I can plainly see the Lions are 6th in pass defense, and I did very plainly say that the DL is the reason for that.  You pressure a QB, you force mistakes and a pedestrian secondary can play other-worldly.  What I am saying is that the LB and DB on the Lions are not worth writing home for.  No one goes around spouting sweet nothings about how great Durant and Levy are or how talented the likes of Houston and Wright are.  The Lions D is the DL, and everyone else takes up space.

Yes, I am a Packers fan, that doesn't mean I hate the Lions.  I hate the Bears, I hate the Cowboys and I hate the Vikings.  The Lions, no hate here.  It's hard to hate something that has been irrelevent for 30+ years.  Plus, Barry Sanders is easily my number one RB of all time, he could do things that were comparable to no one.  Too bad the Lions wasted that opportunity.




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 1, 2011 2:15 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games, will appeal

Question?  I understand the appeals process and I understand unions but could Suh have just waived the APPEALS PROCESS

TECHNICALLY SPEAKING YES, Suh could have refused to appeal.  But in huge and powerful unions like the NFLPA a player will never refuse and always do as they're told.  It's frowned upon and the rest of the players in the union and especially the union reps around the league would be angry as hell.  Everybody knows he deserves his 2 game suspension, even the players understand that.  But as a union they can't accept suspensions that are out of the ordinary like this one.  Nobody under Goodell has been suspended longer then 1 game and very few players have been suspended at all.  If the union doesn't fight this suspension it makes it a lot harder to fight the next suspension where somebody gets 2 games... the NFL could refer to Suh's suspension the union didn't fight.  

Either way, my guess is nothing happens this afternoon and Suh's suspension remains at 2 games.  BUT.. I wouldn't be blown away if Art Shell reduces the suspension to 1 game.  Not because he should, but because a union is involved with a new CBA in place and who knows, maybe the NFL wants to play nice with the union.

We'll see what happens.  Either way, Suh isn't going to be on the field Sunday night in New Orleans and that sucks..... but he should have thought of that before he did something as fu**** stupid as he did last week against Green Bay.  For a smart and well spoken guy said to have a higher iq then most NFL players, Suh acts like a dumbass sometimes.....  


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Posted on: December 1, 2011 1:40 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 1, 2011 11:35 am
 

Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games, will appeal

1. Upgrade the OL -- the OL is getting older and they need a rock solid LT (1st round pick should be the best T available.  Other OL they could draft for depth is a Center and Guard -- both of which you could get starter quality players in later rounds.
That should be the easiest position to upgrade.  Between mid round draft picks and free agency, the Lions should get that done easily.

2. Either FA or trade -- acquire a true #1 CB.  Houston is a very good CB, but he is better suited as a #2.  If they had a true #1 -- they would be very tough to throw on.
I'd like some more depth at CB but I'm not sure I'd go after a number 1 CB.  With a d-line that's only going to get better with more experience ( Suh, Fairley, Young, etc)  and as long as we re-sign our linebackers, a couple of which will be free agents after the season I wouldn't bother much with CB.  Why?  For a couple reasons.  One, to trade for a shutdown corner would cost way too much... the price would be so high it's ridiculous, and the contract would be astronomical.  And two, if you do it through the draft you probably have to use our first round pick to draft one and even then it's a gamble.  Finally, this is the best our Cb's have looked in a long time, and I think that has to do a lot with the constant pressure the d-line puts on qb's and other teams designing plays around the Lions strengths and most instructing their quarterbacks not to hold onto the ball for as long as they used to.   I'm not sure if anybody has noticed but quarterbacks playing the Lions have a combined passer rating of around 73 which means the Lions d in that category is 4th in the NFL.   Impressive when you consider the Lions have faced 5 of the top 12 passer rating teams in the NFL.

3. SS and FS are not positions of need.  Delmas is good and Spievey, just needs time to understand the position.  He played CB all his life, until Detroit moved him to safety.
Definitely a very strong position that's only going to get stronger.  Once again a little more depth behind those guys in case of injury is necessary, but I love our safeties.  Spievey has made tremendous strides this season to say the least.  The kid is only 23 years old in his second season, and through 10 games he's done very well.  I think Spievey and Delmas are going to make one hell of a great combination at safety for years to come if we can hold onto them. 

4. Hope and pray Mikel LeShoure is everything you thought he would be coming out of college when you drafted him in the 2nd round, as Best has proven he cannot be relied upon because of the concussion problems.
This position and the problems we have with it bugs the snot out of me to say the least.  If you look around the league running backs are a dime a dozen, it's normally not a tough position to get some consistent production from.  Our o-line is improved and allows guys like Morris to run for 4.4 yards per carry and for Best to tear it up, there is no reason why we can't find somebody that can stay healthy at that position.  People call it bad luck that Best got hurt but it's not bad luck at all.   Best had a concussion in college yet the Lions insisted he was ok and took a chance drafting him.    The unlucky part was Leshoure's freak injury in practice. To make matters worse the Lions traded a 3rd and a 4th round pick for Leshore and swapped picks in 2 other rounds I believe the 5th and 7th rounds to get him in the 2nd round.  This kid if he stays healthy can be a monster, I loved him in college.  He has to be our every down back next year with Best being thrown in for 8 or 9 carries per game and another 3 or 4 catches out of the backfield. But if Schwartz doesn't give Leshoure the ball a lot more then Best next year I'll be pissed as hell.

While Detroit is definitely not a perfect team and have their problems.  Every team does.  I know as a Lions fan -- if you told me after the 0-16 season that in the 3rd year after that they would be fighting for a playoff spot -- I would have called you crazy.  They are going in the right direction, but have alot to improve upon.
Amen to that.  I would be thrilled to death to get 10 wins this year and making the playoffs would be unbelievable to say the least. That being said to have a chance at 10 wins and a possible playoff spot the Lions have to beat Minnesota and SanDiego at home, and more then likely have to beat Oakland on the road.   As much as I'd love to think an upset is possible this Sunday I'm not a nutjob so that prediction isn't coming out of my mouth.

BUT..... is it ok if I believe that can happen for another couple days?????  LOL 








 

 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 1, 2011 11:05 am
 

Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games, will appeal

True about having 3 or 4 good games in a row.But besides Rodgers and Brees show me 1 QB who has had 4 good games in a row.

Fair enough... probably not many and probably a bad example on my part. BUT...  the problem with Sanchez is his upside in comparison to a guy like Stafford for example.  Sanchez has had one game where he had a 100 or better qb rating this year and 5 in his last 2 seasons or around 27 starts or so.....  Stafford has had 6 games of 100 passer rating or more just this season in 11 games. And considering he played 3 of those games with a splint on his throwing hand index finger Stafford's upside is huge in comparison.

The other problem with Sanchez is in the last 2 seasons he's had about 8 games I believe where his qb rating was lower then 70 for a game.... that's a lot of bad games and not good for a team that wants and expects to win a superbowl soon.

Forget rookie seasons because he had bad one as almost every qb does.... look at his last 2 seasons.  35 td's, 24 int's and about a 75 passer rating.  Brian, that's not good for any NFL qb and especially bad for a talented team with a great D that wants to win right now. Stafford on the other hand in his last 2 years and not counting his rookie year has 32 td's and 14 int's with a passer rating of just above 90.  

That's all I was trying to say when I compared the 2 qb's in the past.... 



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: December 1, 2011 5:45 am
 

Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games, will appeal

Skillet,
How can the Lions or any team for that matter solidify the CB,FS,SS,and OLine all in the same year?
Come on Brian -- it isn't that tough.  If the NFL will just let the Lions have 8 of the 1st 10 picks in next years draft -- The Lions should be able to solidify all those positions without a problem.  LOL.

In reality, Detroit needs a few things in the offseason (obviously this is only my opinion):

1. Upgrade the OL -- the OL is getting older and they need a rock solid LT (1st round pick should be the best T available.  Other OL they could draft for depth is a Center and Guard -- both of which you could get starter quality players in later rounds.

2. Either FA or trade -- acquire a true #1 CB.  Houston is a very good CB, but he is better suited as a #2.  If they had a true #1 -- they would be very tough to throw on.

3. SS and FS are not positions of need.  Delmas is good and Spievey, just needs time to understand the position.  He played CB all his life, until Detroit moved him to safety.

4. Hope and pray Mikel LeShoure is everything you thought he would be coming out of college when you drafted him in the 2nd round, as Best has proven he cannot be relied upon because of the concussion problems.

While Detroit is definitely not a perfect team and have their problems.  Every team does.  I know as a Lions fan -- if you told me after the 0-16 season that in the 3rd year after that they would be fighting for a playoff spot -- I would have called you crazy.  They are going in the right direction, but have alot to improve upon.


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Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:56 am
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: November 30, 2011 10:00 pm
 

Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games, will appeal

Just to point out a few things about the Detroit/GB game -- The Lions were doing just fine holding down GB's offense in the 1st half.  They held GB to a season low 86 yards in the first half.

Detroit has held Green Bay fairly nicely for 3 games in a row now, not just last game.  Last year they dominated Rodgers in the first half before they knocked him out and shut Green Bay down in Detroit.   And for people that said Rodgers missed the 2nd half and that was why, they did a damn good job on him in Green Bay and almost beat him on his own home field.   I know people will say the Packers are better this year and maybe they are.  But they were 5th overall in passing offense last year and number 1 in passing yards per play but Detroit held their own.

The thing that killed the Lions in the 2nd half -- No Chris Houston, as he was injured late in the 1st half.  No Eric Wright, as he was injured early in the 2nd half.  No Louis Delmas, injured in the 1st half.  Detroit's starters in their secondary aren't too bad, but they have no depth.  For the last part of the game -- Detroit was using Rasheed Davis (a backup WR) as our nickelback.  The one play I watched -- he was in man coverage against Greg Jennings.  LOL.

I remember one play in the red zone where a backup db got hurt and the refs forced him to miss a play.  Detroit's replacement? A special teams player.  LOL 

If Detroit could have scored on a couple chances they had in the first half when they shut down Green Bay's offense it could have been a different game in the second half.  But Detroit didn't score.... and the Packers capitalized.

Green Bay is a better team.... the best in the NFL right now. But the Lions play them tough.....
 


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