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Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Posted on: November 29, 2011 12:03 pm
Edited on: November 29, 2011 7:50 pm
'Put down the boldness in regards to the words, and keep living the way you're living,' Warner said of Tebow. (US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

There are any number of theories for why Tim Tebow is so divisive: his funky throwing motion (more precisely: his struggles with arm strength and accuracy), the media deification dating back to his days at Florida and, occasionally, his religious beliefs are cited.

The real reason: Tebow wins. Nobody cares about losers, the god they pray to or how they go about their business. They're losers, after all.

Well, since taking over the starting job from Kyle Orton in late October, Tebow and the Broncos are 5-1, 6-5 overall, and just one game back of the Raiders in the AFC West. Ironically, winning has converted some of Tebow's critics because he's shown that a high school offense, in the right hands, can work in the complicated world of NFL schemes and strategies.

Still, some folks have grown tired of all the ancillary stuff, including the Tebowing phenomenon and the religious implications behind it.

Last week, former Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer said this: "I think [Tebow's] a winner and I respect that about him. I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ then I think I’ll like him a little better. I don’t hate him because of that, I just would rather not have to hear that every single time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff … like you know, I understand dude where you’re coming from … but he is a baller."

Tim Tebow has won three straight games and is 5-1 since becoming the starter in Week 7. CBS Sports' Shannon Sharpe sat down with Tebow, head coach John Fox and Champ Bailey to discuss the Broncos turnaround as well as Tebow's future at QB.

Tebow's response: "I respect Jake’s opinion, and I really appreciate his compliment of calling me a winner, but I feel like every time I get the opportunity to give the Lord some praise he is due for it because what he did for me, and what he did on the cross for all of us."

But Kurt Warner, former Super Bowl champion and NFL MVP whose faith is also a big part of his existence, also thinks Tebow should tone it down a tad.

"You can't help but cheer for a guy like that," Warner said, according to the Arizona Republic. "But I'd tell him, 'Put down the boldness in regards to the words, and keep living the way you're living. Let your teammates do the talking for you. Let them cheer on your testimony.'

"I know what he's going through, and I know what he wants to accomplish, but I don't want anybody to become calloused toward Tim because they don't understand him, or are not fully aware of who he is. And you're starting to see that a little bit."

Warner speaks from experience. There was a time earlier in his career when he was a lot like Tebow. And he found that networks would often edit out his religious references during taped interviews.

"There's almost a faith cliche, where (athletes) come out and say, 'I want to thank my Lord and savior,' " Warner said. "As soon as you say that, the guard goes up, the walls go up, and I came to realize you have to be more strategic.

"The greatest impact you can have on people is never what you say, but how you live. When you speak and represent the person of Jesus Christ in all actions of your life, people are drawn to that. You set the standard with your actions. The words can come after."

Warner's onto something. He's well respected by those in the league, the media, and the fans, and his actions -- more than this words -- carry weight with all of them. Tebow is free to worship as he sees fit, but as the Republic's Dan Bickley writes, "On his journey, Warner found his biggest impact on people came during his personal struggles, when he had no platform, when he was relegated to the bench and people witnessed how magnificently he handled demotions and adversity."

Which is what Plummer was saying and Warner reiterated.

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Since: Jun 24, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 8:51 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

vpdaboss...I think you have a decent comparison there.

honestly, I don't care about Tebow one way or another.  I do find it highly hilarious though that he's winning despite not being very good and making a lot of his detractors angry in the process.  I do think this ride will end sooner rather than later, but ya know what?  Tebow's done a great job of proving a lot of people wrong.

I will also say this: from all accounts I've heard Tebow is a great teamate and that the locker room loves him.  I don't think he preaches to the team.  

Here's what I don't appreciate: the Tim Tebow fans who play the victim card.  Any criticism of him is taken as criticism of them, and worse yet they build his hype more and do a great job annoying people.  You wanna like Tim Tebow?  Fine, that's your choice, and I think it's kind of cool that this guy has such a dedicated fan base (though I will admit I find it weird to a degree how a great college player who so far has shown a lack of skill at the pro level is so revered.  Reggie Bush wishes he had it as good as Tebow! lol).  All anyone is asking of the fan base is to tone it down a little bit and quit taking attacks on Tim Tebow so personally. 

Since: Jun 18, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 8:43 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

This will be a stretch, but I'm a Cardinals fan; so let's compare Tebow to say...  Albert Pujols.  Both religious, both very hard workers, and both spend their time preparing for their time on the field.  Both see the game as a battle.  Tebow is so polarizing, where Pujols is generally respected by a wide spectrum of fans from all cities and clubs.  I think Warner's comment is right on, live your life, take the right opportunity to let your fans know what you're all about, and when it's time to play, play ball and don't worry about the rest.  Tebow is a highly insecure guy in that he doesn't want to have his religion disrespected.  Give it up, if you truly believe what you preach, someone on the other side of the line or on your own team saying something different should not make you feel susceptible to chest pain.  Where Tebow seems to speak loudly, Pujols puts a finger in the air (back to the comparison).  Albert doesn't preach to his team-mates because he's there to play baseball.  I bet if a team-mate asked him for insight, he'd gladly accept the invitation.  That's a far cry from forcing your religion on your teammates.  This is why Tebow is so polarizing, and probably always will be.  Keep the prayer stance if you want, but keep your mouth shut unless someone asks for your opinion, and you'll create a wider fan base, and ironically enough maybe a chance to have more influece on a wider array of people...

Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: November 29, 2011 8:43 pm

A lousy Christian's opinion

I've always said I'm a Christian, but not a very good example of one, especially if I were put under the kind of microscope hat Tebow is. That said, I respect and understand his desire to do what he believes is the right thing to do. In fact, given the gifts raining down upon him, I think he's right to be so thankful, and for that, I like the kid for being so aware of how good his life is. If some players from another league that just ended a lockout had a little more gratitude, maybe people would cheer for them the same way. On the other hand, I also understand those who may take exception from the rligious angle and would only ask them to give him the same respect you'd ask regarding your own beliefs or lifestyle. He's trying to be a good role model for kids and weak minded adults, so if he's accomplishing that, why not just thank him for (so far anyway) not making 12 babies with 10 mamas, driving a church bus drunk through an orphanage, or shooting a fellow strip club patron while high on coke, meth, X, and redbull combined. If he screws up down the road, you'll be more than welcome to dog-pile him then and rub it in the noses of every Christian you know. Till then, I hope a few kids see how he acts and try to emulate that kind of sportsmanship and respect for an opponent. Regards, just another sinful, cussing, SOB'ing fantasy football maniac that should never watch NFL in a roomful of kids.

Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 8:23 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

I respect Tim Teabow and I've pulled for this young man. I like the way he carries himself. He's real. I'd ask people not ask him to tone down his faith. I agree actions speak 10000000 times louder than words. This kid is living it though. Cut him some slack please. Will he mess up one day? Probably, we're all only human. All you haters will point out every mistake. Why? Because people like this guy and you don't. Okay. Is Tim Teabow a great quaterback? No. Will he ever be? honestly, probably not. He gives it 100% when he's out there and you can tell everyone around him sees it. I think we can all respect that. As for Kurt Warner, I respect his opinion. We all have one. Kurt Warner's opinion is no more important than mine or yours. I don't remember Kurt handling demotions so well as this story indicates. He did come back from them and did great things in Arizona. I certainly respect that. I also respect that Kurt was openly Christian and he displayed that in his way. Let Teabow display his faith his way. I don't know anything about Jake Plummer other than he was a decent quarterback. Remember a lot of the hype is from the media. Take that for what it's worth. Enjoy all. God bless you all.

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 8:11 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Let the kid say what he wants to say.  If he is that thankful and wants to express it, let him.  I believe in separation of church and state but this isn't government and/or religion; we're talking about sports people, sports.  Some people will like him for it, some won't but it will all get sussed out in the end.  If he continues to win you can guarantee he will be even more emphatic and grateful.  Give him credit, he's done better than anyone thought he would do, way better.  How long it will last I don't think the pundits really know but I'm glad he's done well and hope he continues for as long as he can (except against the Patriots that is).  Doug Flutie had some success in the NFL and when he did I was happy for him.  I think he knew he couldn't last in the NFL as a QB which is why he made the smart move to play north of the border.  But there's nothing better than proving the experts wrong, especially when you're the clear underdog. 

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: November 29, 2011 8:01 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

I have said it before, and it is worth reiterating....

We understand these groups have a right to their free speech, but we also have the right to dislike them for it when they go overboard.  We don't like it when PETA goes over the top with their....."advertising", we don't like it when gay rights groups (for and against) are constantly throwing their propaganda in our faces, we don't like it when solicitors try to push their wares on us, so consequently, I for one, do not particularly care to hear about Tebow's religious beliefs, beyond his statement of faith and belief in whatever invisible sky-being he believes in.

If you are going to paint Bible verses into your eyepaint, and make yourself into a spectacle, you can expect a reaction.  Other people will respect your right to believe in or be a patron of whatever philosophy you desire, but we don't want to hear about it all the time.... 

But he enjoys the controversey, even if it is negative-- it sends him into a typical Christian persecution-delusion that must help to center him before games or something.  If he did not want that, he would shut his mouth and just play football like he is being paid to do.

I see devout Christian players succeeding in the NFL, I see some downright disgusting people succeeding in the NFL.  Not much of a difference.  If this god exists, he obviously has no vested interest in football or any of its players.

Since: Jun 24, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 7:56 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

What a joke it is how self righteous Christians get on this sports site. And defensive. No one said tebow cannot speak about his beliefs you idiots, so don't even go trotting out an amendment that you don't understand. They just said tebow and his fans are annoying for being so vocal.

oosterbaan is the winner! Doyel even said the same thing a few weeks ago: it's not Tebow that really drives people crazy, it's his fans!  Most of them are simultaneously self righteous and quick to play the victim card.  One person had the gall to say that if they put up Christian displays (such as a cross or a virgin Mary sculpture) that people would vandalize those things within days!  WHAT COUNTRY DO YOU LIVE IN?!?!  Certainly not the U.S. where 70+ percent of the population identifies as Christian.  Certainly not the U.S. where there are churches EVERYWHERE.  I have never actually seen a church desecrated (outside of some punks maybe spray painting on the sides of some occasionally, which I find offensive of course).

For people who believe in the goodness of God, you sure are a scared bunch.  I believe that whatever our creator is it endowed a lot of beauty and goodness in the world.  Come join the rest of us in the real world where, news flash, you ARE THE FREAKIN MAJORITY (and still manage to whine like you're the most oppressed group ever).

Good grief. 

(P.S. sorry you're a Michigan fan ooster ;) 

Since: Sep 28, 2007
Posted on: November 29, 2011 7:26 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

What a joke it is how self righteous Christians get on this sports site. And defensive. No one said tebow cannot speak about his beliefs you idiots, so don't even go trotting out an amendment that you don't understand. They just said tebow and his fans are annoying for being so vocal. And the reality of that is that tebow fans maybe the most football ignorant, proselytizing, annoying fan group in recent history.

Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: November 29, 2011 7:24 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

i said this WEEKS ago about kurt warner that he was just as religious but never had to seek the attention and act like teblow.

and why warner is still well respected as he was as a past player when warner said......"the greatest impact you can have on people is never what you say, but how you live.    

i have more respect for that one sentence than anything that aattention seeker teblow has EVER done by his all about me actions 

Since: Nov 29, 2011
Posted on: November 29, 2011 7:22 pm

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

I am glad Tim has a strong Christain faith. How is something good bickered about all week among supposedly smart commentators and stupid activity like "unsportsmanlike celebrations" let go quickly. Personally I want to see good football and Tim is putting that forth to fans. Stomping arms and pretend shootings to the leg are idiotic but they will be quickly expelled and we will be back to debating if Tim is a NFL caliber quarterback. Wake up and watch quality football and knock off the idiotic judging....because the "experts" are concentrating on the wrong topic doesn't mean true football fans have to buy in. Support your team and all that is good about football!!

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