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Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Posted on: November 29, 2011 12:03 pm
Edited on: November 29, 2011 7:50 pm
 
'Put down the boldness in regards to the words, and keep living the way you're living,' Warner said of Tebow. (US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

There are any number of theories for why Tim Tebow is so divisive: his funky throwing motion (more precisely: his struggles with arm strength and accuracy), the media deification dating back to his days at Florida and, occasionally, his religious beliefs are cited.

The real reason: Tebow wins. Nobody cares about losers, the god they pray to or how they go about their business. They're losers, after all.

Well, since taking over the starting job from Kyle Orton in late October, Tebow and the Broncos are 5-1, 6-5 overall, and just one game back of the Raiders in the AFC West. Ironically, winning has converted some of Tebow's critics because he's shown that a high school offense, in the right hands, can work in the complicated world of NFL schemes and strategies.

Still, some folks have grown tired of all the ancillary stuff, including the Tebowing phenomenon and the religious implications behind it.

Last week, former Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer said this: "I think [Tebow's] a winner and I respect that about him. I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ then I think I’ll like him a little better. I don’t hate him because of that, I just would rather not have to hear that every single time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff … like you know, I understand dude where you’re coming from … but he is a baller."


Tim Tebow has won three straight games and is 5-1 since becoming the starter in Week 7. CBS Sports' Shannon Sharpe sat down with Tebow, head coach John Fox and Champ Bailey to discuss the Broncos turnaround as well as Tebow's future at QB.

Tebow's response: "I respect Jake’s opinion, and I really appreciate his compliment of calling me a winner, but I feel like every time I get the opportunity to give the Lord some praise he is due for it because what he did for me, and what he did on the cross for all of us."

But Kurt Warner, former Super Bowl champion and NFL MVP whose faith is also a big part of his existence, also thinks Tebow should tone it down a tad.

"You can't help but cheer for a guy like that," Warner said, according to the Arizona Republic. "But I'd tell him, 'Put down the boldness in regards to the words, and keep living the way you're living. Let your teammates do the talking for you. Let them cheer on your testimony.'

"I know what he's going through, and I know what he wants to accomplish, but I don't want anybody to become calloused toward Tim because they don't understand him, or are not fully aware of who he is. And you're starting to see that a little bit."

Warner speaks from experience. There was a time earlier in his career when he was a lot like Tebow. And he found that networks would often edit out his religious references during taped interviews.

"There's almost a faith cliche, where (athletes) come out and say, 'I want to thank my Lord and savior,' " Warner said. "As soon as you say that, the guard goes up, the walls go up, and I came to realize you have to be more strategic.

"The greatest impact you can have on people is never what you say, but how you live. When you speak and represent the person of Jesus Christ in all actions of your life, people are drawn to that. You set the standard with your actions. The words can come after."

Warner's onto something. He's well respected by those in the league, the media, and the fans, and his actions -- more than this words -- carry weight with all of them. Tebow is free to worship as he sees fit, but as the Republic's Dan Bickley writes, "On his journey, Warner found his biggest impact on people came during his personal struggles, when he had no platform, when he was relegated to the bench and people witnessed how magnificently he handled demotions and adversity."

Which is what Plummer was saying and Warner reiterated.

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Since: May 18, 2011
Posted on: November 30, 2011 5:20 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

On a side note, regardless of how anyone feels about Tebow's religous statements, you cannot disagree with the guy below that pointed out all of the stuff that he is not guilty of. He is a fine role model, and I know several guys that are happy to have their kid wear his jersey - and you won't catch them at church on any given Sunday.

He is not a fine role model if you believe in caring about other people's beliefs or any kind of rationalism.  Tebow, like so many folks who believe they are in the absolute right, fail to recognize or admit that 1) There is as high a probability that they are wrong as they are right and 2) Just because they believe it doesn't mean other's have to.  See when you respect people you allow them to make thier own decisions and hold onto their own beliefs.  No one is saying Tebow should stop being Christian, they're saying to stop shoving it down the rest of our throats.  He's as annoying as a Jehovah's Witness or a Hare Krishna...



Since: May 18, 2011
Posted on: November 30, 2011 5:12 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Hey Dadler, were they winning with Orton starting? Why not? The defensive team is still the same personnel. They put Orton in a position to win in the 4th quarter too. The difference is Tebow is clutch and makes plays when it matters most. And no, the vast majority of people in the NFL are NOT religious. They're actions on and off the field tell us that much. Tebow just doesn't talk the talk when it comes to religion. He walks the walk too and that's the difference. I don't hear you complaining about WR's "yakking" about themselves every chance they get so why should you care if he talks about God every chance he gets?

While the defense personnel may be the same, the statistics (which indicate their level of play) have increased dramatically, and that has nothing to do with Tebow.  There is actually a great article about it on this very website, if you care to read it.  NFL players, and athletes in general, tend to be very superstitious and typically (in American sports at least) are openly religious and do vast amounts of charity work.  Just because a player has bad off-field behavior doesn't mean their not religious.  You must misunderstand the definition of the word.  In fact religion, and Jesus inparticular, has a very big presence in our nation's correctional institutions.  I'm not sure what that says about religion, but that's another conversation entirely.  Do athletes talk about themselves alot?  Yes, but their not pushing a religious ideology by doing so.  Religion is obviously a more sensitive subject that requires more attention and sensitivity.  Look man, all other things aside, if Kurt Warner, by no stretch of imagination an atheist, says to tone down your Jesus talk, maybe, just maybe, it's time to tone it down.  And Orton still has a better passer rating, just saying.



Since: Apr 28, 2007
Posted on: November 30, 2011 5:04 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

The fine line is somewhere between Warner's actions and Tebow's actions, I think.  I am also a believer and appreciate the opportuinity to  share the blessings that God has allowed in my life. I also know that people are very interested in my actions being above reproach as well. The truth is, all Christians are sinners, and are capable of as many bad actions as can be imagined. Those who are intolerant of Christians will never be happy with them sharing their faith. Those who claim to be Christians still fall into sin on a regular basis, and that is why there is a need for a Saviour.  I hope that Tebow will have the same attitude that Warner did when he is eventually benched. He will not continue to win playing the way he does. I expect that he will get hurt because he takes abuse that Rb's are  taking. I still do not know why teams don't play a 3 man line 4 lb's and 4 db's, and do not ever blitz him.

Sadly, I think the media is ready to pounce on this guy the minute he struggles. And I am sure thatmany feel that it is deserved. That is part of playing QB in the nfl.

On a side note, regardless of how anyone feels about Tebow's religous statements, you cannot disagree with the guy below that pointed out all of the stuff that he is not guilty of. He is a fine role model, and I know several guys that are happy to have their kid wear his jersey - and you won't catch them at church on any given Sunday.



Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: November 30, 2011 4:58 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

So let me get this straight. When Tebow professes his love for Jesus Christ after a football game it is just him "putting on a show to get a larger following"? What about all the morons who dance around in the endzone after a TD or make spectacles of themselves in the locker room after the game during an interview.

So Tebow promoting the Christian faith and encouraging people everywhere to be good people and love and help others is a bad thing? Hmmm, I guess Jesus himself was just a shameless self promoter eh? 



Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: November 30, 2011 4:53 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Hahahahahahahahahaha! I love this! Every week I can't wait for the Broncos to win so that I can see all the loud mouths at ESPN and elsewhere's heads explode. Every single week they come up withn a new excuse for how the Broncos won IN SPITE of Tebow. They literallly pull their hair out when this guy wins because they can't stand it.

Mike Vick wasn't a prolific passer when he first came into the league and he did alot more with his legs than with his arm but everyone loved it. Vick was "changing the position of QB in the NFL" and "starting a new era" and blah, blah, blah. Now here comes Tebow literally doing the same thing and everyone hates the guy. It's unreal. They simply hate him because he is openly religious, it's a simple as that. If he showed up for the press conference after the game with a flat brimmed Broncos hate on sideways yakking about being a baller and tearing it up out there, people would love the guy. Instead he stays humble, thanks his Lord and Saviour for the talents that he has blessed him with and motivates his teamates.

This is where we are now in America. People absolutely loathe a good guy who does nothing wrong simply because he is open about his Christianity. THAT is why they hate him. 



Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: November 30, 2011 4:44 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Any person who does not have the sensitivity to understand that constantly displaying your addiction to some kind of faith can be very off-putting to those who do not share any part of the same, either: (a) has a low intellect/sensitivity, (b) is intending for his actions to be proselytizing, or (c) is carrying out a detailed and elaborate charade to build a fan-following among those who like such things.

I don't think Tebow is stupid,  so I firmly believe that his advertisement of his Christian faith on a medium as wide as television has to either have evangelical intentions or is a shameless charade. Either of which make me lose any respect for him.

Do you see Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon or Usama Young perform namaaz? Did you see Sid Luckman chant Hebrew verses after a TD? Do you see Ricky Williams practise Yoga?





Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: November 30, 2011 4:32 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

All that aside, if there is a God, he/she/it doesn't care about a football game.  And if God cares enough about Tebow to help him win games while not resolving say world hunger or the genocide in Darfur, what a stupid God indeed.

Perfect.



Since: Apr 3, 2010
Posted on: November 30, 2011 4:27 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

I mean come on, this is ridiculous. Tebow is at best a 2nd string QB. Okay, Broncos fans, I get that he's winning now - but can you honestly tell me that he's an elite QB? No, not even close. And the reason that people are fed up with Tebow is b/c the media portrays him to be a "God" of sorts. I'm sorry, but I find that offensive - and you "believers" should, too. Someone tell me where in the Bible it says that Jesus went to the cross to help the Denver Broncos. Exactly - now shut up and let him just play football and everyone can go on believing what they want to. He's only hurting his religion by preaching that Jesus cares about a football game.



Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: November 30, 2011 3:56 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Hey Dadler, were they winning with Orton starting? Why not? The defensive team is still the same personnel. They put Orton in a position to win in the 4th quarter too. The difference is Tebow is clutch and makes plays when it matters most. And no, the vast majority of people in the NFL are NOT religious. They're actions on and off the field tell us that much. Tebow just doesn't talk the talk when it comes to religion. He walks the walk too and that's the difference. I don't hear you complaining about WR's "yakking" about themselves every chance they get so why should you care if he talks about God every chance he gets?



Since: May 18, 2011
Posted on: November 30, 2011 3:26 pm
 

Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: less talk, more actions

Does anyone here seriously think Tebow would have all this attention if he professed his love of any other religion/cult?  Just sayin... 


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