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Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

Posted on: December 1, 2011 1:36 pm
Edited on: December 1, 2011 3:13 pm
Who ya got for Rookie of the Year: Dalton or Newton? (Getty Images)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

You probably wouldn't get much argument if Panthers quarterback Cam Newton ends up winning the 2011 NFL Rookie of the Year. Without the benefit of minicamps and OTAs, the first overall pick, with just six weeks of practice and facing intense scrutiny, has played like a veteran, pretty much from the moment he stepped on the field in Week 1. He threw for 854 yards in his first two games, and his otherwordly talents coupled with poise beyond his years made him a natural candidate for the award.

Despite the marked upgrade at quarterback, the Panthers are just a three-win outfit with five games remaining. A year ago, with overmatched rookie quarterback Jimmy Clausen under center, Carolina managed to go 2-14. We bring this up not as a knock on Newton's accomplishments to date, but to point out that he's not the only quarterback in the Rookie-of-the-Year running.

Andy Dalton, the Bengals' second-round pick out of TCU and who we've taken to calling Ginger Power (nobody's asked Dalton's his thoughts on it but it has to be better than Red Rifle), has been more important to his team's success this season than Newton. Cincy began the year 6-2, and even after losses to the Steelers and Ravens in recent weeks, at 7-4 they're currently the AFC's No. 6 team. That's good for the final playoff spot.

There's more than a month to go in the regular season, including rematches against Pittsburgh and Baltimore, but given how far the Bengals have come in just a short period (they were 4-12 a year ago before dumping Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens, and eventually trading Carson Palmer to the Raiders), Dalton deserves to be in the Rookie of the Year conversation.

Looking at passer ratings over the first 11 games and there's little difference between Dalton and Newton. According to Football Outsiders' QB efficiency metrics, Dalton currently ranks 10th. Newton is 18th.  Compare their numbers below.

And we're not the only folks beating that drum. Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is on board, too.

“The things that he does that you just see or expect from rookie quarterbacks," Big Ben said, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. Anticipating throws. There were a couple of throws last time we played them, and I was on the sideline and I told the story of when, but we’ve got a guy right in his face, the receiver is still running a route, he throws an out route and the guy breaks right to the ball and its perfect. Some of the things he did were really impressive. Right now I think, and I don’t know how the talk is, but he’s rookie of the year. I think he’s that good of a quarterback.”

This Sunday, Andy Dalton and the Cincinnati Bengals will travel to Heinz field to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Join Jason Horowitz and's Pat Kirwan as they take a look at this matchup. Watch the game on CBS at 1 PM ET.

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Since: Aug 29, 2009
Posted on: December 2, 2011 12:57 am

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

Why would anyone call him a racist over this.  Whoever was ignorant enough to say something so stupid needs to have they're foodstamps and welfare taken from them!  Go out and earn your way... nobody owes you anything!!!!

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: December 2, 2011 12:24 am

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

Who cares wht the Squeeler rapist thinks........

Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: December 2, 2011 12:05 am

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

Okay your a racist, because no one said Andy Dalton was better than Cam Newton, but Andy Dalton is one heck of a QB same as Cam Newton. However, Andy Dalton has his team in a playoff hunt and where is Carolina going but to the house to watch the playoffs? I'm so sick of people who want to throw up racist this and racist that, I want to throw up myself because I'm sick of hearing it. This is 2011 not 1811 or 1911. Could we all please get off the racist banwagon? Really this is the NFL and the only thing that matters is not race the color of a player just if you (WIN OR LOSE). And I'm sorry but Cam Newton is an AWESOME football player but his team is 3-7 and Andy Daltons team is 7-4 if they beat my Steelers and I hope they don't but if they do they will be a front runner in the AFC for a playoff spot, it's called winning. Darn Andy Dalton and AJ Green(oh wait who is black) for winning. But, I will assure you RACIST that Cam Newton will have his day in the playoffs and maybe even winning some SUPER BOWLS. I just get sick of hearing your a racist and I'm a racist and a Mexican is racist and a little green man is a racist because Andy Dalton is winning football games and Cam Newton is a great Rookie and will be a great QB in the NFL. Get a life and PLEASE understand or see that in 2011 race has nothing to do with the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT QUIT WATCHING OUR SPORT MR.RACIST..

Thanks a non racist football fan...

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2011 8:09 pm

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

Anyone who tries to claim Dalton is better than Newton is a racist. Period, end of discussion!

Since: May 7, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 6:57 pm

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

For what it's worth, I wouldn't have to say that it's pretty much a "toss-up" for NFL ROY. Both QB's stats are somewhat parallel with one another. If I had to pick between the two, I would have to go with Dalton over Newton just because of the Bengals' record compared to the Panthers' record.

Since: Mar 28, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 4:12 pm

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

Anyone who tries to claim Newton is better than Dalton is a racist. Period, end of discussion.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 1, 2011 4:00 pm

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

Tough to say which,  Dalton plays on a much better team than Newton.

Since: May 30, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:59 pm

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

I love my team, and I may be a little bit of a homer ;-), but theres no way I put him ahead of Peterson or McFadden (when healthy). He's having a great rookie season so far, but to say 2nd best back in the NFL is a stretch at this point. Hopefully he reaches that point some time though!

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2011 2:53 pm

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

you could be a homer but i have to agree, if Murray started the year this guy would probably lead the nfl in rushing. He has a great chance to finish the year in the top 5. I really think Murray is the second best running back in football behind Foster. Even ahead of AP, call me foolish but this guy is the real deal, no doubt.

Since: May 30, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2011 2:38 pm

Big Ben thinks Andy Dalton is rookie of the year

By the time the season is over, there will be no way DeMarco Murray will be left out of this conversation.  These two are just lucky he hasnt been starting all season.

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