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Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Posted on: January 3, 2012 4:25 pm
 
One way or the other, Flynn's getting paid this offseason. (US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

After what Packers backup quarterback Matt Flynn did to the Lions Sunday -- 31 of 44 for 480 yards and a team record six touchdowns -- we joked on the Pick-6 Podcast (embedded below for your listening pleasure) that the performance would mean the Redskins would be first in line to throw a ton of dough in Flynn's general direction.


We stress "joked."

Then on Tuesday we saw this tweet from ESPN 980's Chris Russell: "Heard Matt Flynn's great performance Sunday generated a lot of buzz & positive chatter amongst the big names of the #Redskins organization."

Of course he did.

Look, Flynn had a mind-blowing afternoon against Detroit, and he also played well during a 2010 start against the Patriots. And in that sense, he's already more accomplished than Kevin Kolb was before he was anointed "the next franchise quarterback" last offseason. The Cardinals gave up a second-round pick and cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, and signed Kolb to a $63 million extension. In return they got nine starts, nine touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 57.7 completion percentage and a ton of questions.

The takeaway: don't devote a non-trivial portion of your salary cap to someone who plays the most important position on the field based on a handful of snaps. Somehow, that wasn't entirely clear to everyone.

The Canton Repository's Steve Doerschuk writes that the Browns could also be interested in Flynn. Doerschuk doesn't cite a source but writes that "There is no question Mike Holmgren would rush soon-to-be-free agent Matt Flynn hard. The only question is how much the Browns president likes the [Flynn]."

Is Flynn an upgrade over Colt McCoy, who Holmgren selected in the third round of the 2010 draft? Sure. Is he so much better than McCoy that the Browns should pay him starter's money to find out? Almost certainly not.

But as CBSSports.com's Will Brinson pointed out in Monday's Sorting the Sunday Pile, Flynn made himself some coin with Sunday's effort. "That's going to translate well when he becomes an unrestricted free agent and potentially becomes the most desirable quarterback on the market. There are lots of teams that need a quarterback and Flynn will be on everyone's radar just as much as Robert Griffin III and Andrew Luck. If someone falls in love with him, he might get Kevin Kolb money."

To paraphrase Chris Rock, we're not saying it's right … but we understand.

But if Flynn's in line for a big payday, the Packers might want to get their cut, too. Yes, Flynn's set to be an unrestricted free agent in a few months, but there's a chance Green Bay could franchise him. No, seriously.

Because there may be little time (or opportunity) to trade Flynn before the start of free agency in March, the Packers' might get the biggest return on their investment by franchising him. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Tom Silverstein explains:
In exchange for being tagged, Flynn would receive a one-year deal worth the average of the last five franchise tag numbers at his position. Last year, the franchise number for quarterbacks was around $14 million, and it's likely to be higher this year.

So once the Packers tag Flynn, that $14 million counts against their salary cap. Flynn would automatically become the highest-paid player on the team in terms of annual salary.

NFL teams are prohibited from trading franchise players. In fact, the rules say you may not franchise a player with the intent to sign him to a contract and then trade him. However, this rule has been broken before and the NFL tends to look the other way.
Silverstein adds that the move isn't without risk for the Packers. Putting aside the illegality of a tag and trade, there's also the issue of having a $14 million backup on your roster if other teams aren't sufficiently interested in trading for him. Which means that team president Ted Thompson would have to work with Flynn's agent "behind the scenes to find a trading partner and then negotiate a deal suitable to Flynn."

Silverstein was told by a "prominent agent who has represented a franchise player" that Green Bay could be in line for a first-round pick at minimum for Flynn, and maybe a first- and third-rounder.

That sounds, well, extreme, especially since Hue Jackson already traded for Carson Palmer. Then again, Redskins owner Dan Snyder isn't afraid to mortgage the future for the possibility of success now. 

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Comments

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: January 4, 2012 1:15 am
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

He could also be the next Drew Brees, Matt Schaub, Warner, Bulger, Brady etc. Who knows.

I do know he just broke the single game record for Green Bay, a franchise that has had Staubach (or was it Starr? before my time sorry), Favre and Rodgers all playing for them. I don't care if it's one game and it's a fluke, if that is your fluke, then you've got a pretty damn good chance that your regular performances are at least passable. As the article stated, he's already shown more than Kolb.

I was laughing at Arizona when they pulled that trade, I am pretty sure most people on here were telling me the Eagles got ripped off.

Flynn can flop, but I really like him and think whatever team signs him, as long as it's not a crazy contract, is putting itself in a fantastic spot. My philosophy always has been that if you don't have a bonafide franchise QB, you keep getting as many potential ones as you can until you hit one, and then trade away or cut the rest. Give him a solid contract but one that lets you cut him early if he flops without crippling you, then let him compete for the starting job. Get people behind him and feel free to swap QBs in and out until someone can prove themselves.





Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: January 4, 2012 12:59 am
 

Kolb sleeping with eyes open

I wouldn't be surprised if Flyn put a hit out on Kolb for putting in such a lousy showing this year thus thoroughly wiping out any chance he might have had to get a phhhat free agent contract anywhere in the solar system like Kolb got. By the way, my money is on Kolb getting released this offseason after numerous attempts to dump him by the cards on either the Browns, Dolphins, or Jets.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 4, 2012 12:32 am
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Just because you don't have the insight to know weather a QB will or won't pan out is your problem. Not mine. I've been evaluating QB's for over 20 years. And very, very seldom have I ever been wrong. So please just speak for yourself. Matt Flynn is the real deal. As real as Matt Schaub. And when he becomes a starter next year for some team (Redskins, Dolphins or Browns possibly) you'll remember this blog post. 

Are you kidding me man?  You've been evaluating quarterbacks for over 20 years?  Really?  What's your definition of "evaluate"? Watching NFL games on Sunday Ticket?

Listen, you're allowed an opinion just like everybody else is on these boards.  But don't pretend to know what Flynn is or isn't going to do because you don't know anything for sure.  If you're right then good for you and it was a great guess.  But for you to tell me you KNOW how Flynn, a 7th round draft pick with 2 good games in 2 seasons under his belt playing for an awesome team is going to do playing every minute of every week next year for what's most likely going to be a much less talented team then GB is flat out dumb.

 



Since: Sep 25, 2010
Posted on: January 4, 2012 12:13 am
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Throwing this in the mix. Miami should entice him. They have the best bones for immediate results for flynn's success then Miami drafts Blackmon at WR to compliment Marshall. Then 2nd round they can draft the QB from Houston or Boise as backup for insurance to Flynn.



Since: Aug 23, 2007
Posted on: January 3, 2012 11:18 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Redwings1969, 

Just because you don't have the insight to know weather a QB will or won't pan out is your problem. Not mine. I've been evaluating QB's for over 20 years. And very, very seldom have I ever been wrong. So please just speak for yourself. Matt Flynn is the real deal. As real as Matt Schaub. And when he becomes a starter next year for some team (Redskins, Dolphins or Browns possibly) you'll remember this blog post. 

If you know QB's, and if youv'e watched Flynn in the Patriots game and the Lions game, you'd know he's the real goods.



Since: Oct 7, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2012 11:09 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Cardinals should trade the Pack Peterson and a 2013 2nd rd pick for Flynn



Since: May 15, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2012 10:56 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

Flynn will be a great quarterback for someone else, assuming that the NFL cooperates and lets him play against the Lions and the Patriots every week. If he'd put up numbers like that against the Steelers, that would be different.

I'm a Packer fan and I'm happy for Flynn, but it is a pretty small sample size. Thankfully there are a lot of teams in the NFL with desperate management styles, so he'll get paid. 



Since: Oct 7, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2012 10:04 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

The only thing that Kevin Kolb has done good is laugh all of the way to the bank.  His body of work was no where near the dollar amount of the contract that he signed.  Flynn's two starts, while impressive, were just two starts.  I think they have earned him a shot to compete for a starting job in training camp somewhere next year.  But a 1 or 2 year incentive laiden contract should be the way teams approach him.  That would keep him motivated, still give him an opportunity, and not make a team look foolish.




Since: Oct 7, 2010
Posted on: January 3, 2012 10:04 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

The only thing that Kevin Kolb has done good is laugh all of the way to the bank.  His body of work was no where near the dollar amount of the contract that he signed.  Flynn's two starts, while impressive, were just two starts.  I think they have earned him a shot to compete for a starting job in training camp somewhere next year.  But a 1 or 2 year incentive laiden contract should be the way teams approach him.  That would keep him motivated, still give him an opportunity, and not make a team look foolish.




Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2012 9:47 pm
 

Is Matt Flynn the next Kevin Kolb?

just because he had one good game doesnt make him the best qb. all it means the pakers superior talent showed up. the o line did a good job, the receivers caught the ball. every body has a good game once in a while. i imagine rodgers did not want him to do that good
So your basically saying he did nothing, and all his success was due to the O Line? I think he needs to take some of the credit... and even when teams O Line's are playing well... QB's don't have that kind of game. Why wouldn't Rodgers want his team and his fellow team mate to do well & win? 


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