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Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

Posted on: January 15, 2012 5:58 pm
 
Maybe Jenning's, uh, foot was on the ground? (Mocksession.com)
By Will Brinson

The Packers caught a tremendous break in the first half of Sunday's NFC Divisional Round matchup against the Giants, as Greg Jennings clearly fumbled a ball and neither an on-field ruling nor replay could "confirm" that he did so. The Packers kept the ball and scored a touchdown five plays later to tie the game at 10-10.

On first and 10 from the Giants 38-yard line, Aaron Rodgers hit Jennings on a six-yard pass. Jennings fumbled the ball while being tackled and the Giants recovered.

The play was initially ruled a fumble but the officiating crew overturned that call on the field and said that Jennings was down. Tom Coughlin was, for all intents and purposes, forced to challenge the play. He did so and the visual evidence indicated rather clearly (see: above) that the ball was loose before Jennings hit the ground.

However, Bill Leavy announced to the crowd that the ruling on the field would stand. The Packers kept the ball and scored a touchdown.

It was a terrible break for the Giants, an unbelievable stroke of luck for the Packers, and a pretty good reason for wondering if there needs to be another safeguard in the review process.

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Comments

Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: January 15, 2012 9:22 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

I disagree with you here Will. There was no conclusive evidence that he lost the ball before he hit the ground. In the picture you are using to illustrate your point, the ball is still in Greg Jennings' hand. It is possible for a player to hold and control the ball in one hand. That fact has been proven countless times over the years. Remember that point and then watch the play in real time or slow motion and tell me that 100 percent without a doubt he lost the ball before he hit the ground. I don't think you, or anyone, can. Ity is obvious that the Giants player was in the process of stripping the ball from Jennings before Jennings hit the ground but that doesn't necessarily mean that Jennings didn't have possession. I cannot tell, with absolute certainty, when he lost the ball. Obviously, neither could the referee. That is why the call was not overturned. There was not indisputable evidence that Greg Jennings lost the ball before he hit the ground. If the call on the field had been a fumble, it probably would have stood as well.



Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: January 15, 2012 9:15 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

It's as if the NFL didn't simply hand the game to the Packers- but they said, if the Giants want to pull the upset- they'll have to win by 30...and they would've if they refs weren't the worst ever.  Giants will win Super Bowl if they play even close to as good the next 2 games.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 15, 2012 9:14 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

final score was Giants 37, Packers 6, Refs 14<br /><br />




Since: Jun 29, 2010
Posted on: January 15, 2012 9:02 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

AND IF THE SAME REFS ARE ASSIGNED TO NEXT WEEK'S GIANTS -49RS CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN SAN FRAN, IF I WERE THE MARA'S I WOULD PROTEST BEFORE THE KICKOFF.



Since: Jun 29, 2010
Posted on: January 15, 2012 8:53 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

The league needs to send replays to a neutral third party in the booth at each game.  My theory as to why officials still manage to blow calls that go to review is that when they reverse their own calls upon review they actually hurt their own stats (and egos) by admitting they got the call wrong.  I believe the league partially bases its system of rewarding officials into playoff games by how accurate those officials are in their calls during the season.  If that is correct then why would an official want to overturn their own calls which confirms they got the call wrong in the first place?  We all know these guys have a tough job and they have to make quick decisions in real time without replay, but when a call is challenged teams and fans need to know that the officials will be honest and correct a call when video replay shows they got it wrong in real time.  A neutral third party in the booth for replay challenges would take the replay decision out of the hands of people who have a stake in the outcome of the replay results.  As for that "non'fumble" by the Pack tonight, that is a perfect example of a ref not wanting to overturn their own call when it was blatantly obvious that they got it wrong and stuborness could have had a major impact on the result of a game two teams spent an entire season working towards.  Put an end to it!
THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG AS THE GIANTS MANAGED TO WIN TODAY. HOWEVER, THIS IS A HUGE EMBARRASMENT FOR THE NFL. THE REFS THAT MADE THE 2 HORRIBLE CALLS NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED FOR CRIMINAL GAMBLING ACTIVITY. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT MAKING CORRECT CALLS ON OBVIOUS SLO MO REPLAYS. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THE REF SAW TO NOT CALL THAT PLAY A FUMBLE. IT WOULD BE SAD IF THE NFL HAS TO RELY ON 3RD PARTIES TO MAKE CORRECT CALLS. I WOULD RATHER SEE THE FEW BAD SEED REFS FIRED AND INVESTIGATED THAN SLOW THE GAMES DOWN FURTHER. IT WAS OBVIOUS TO THE WHOLE WORLD WHO WATCHED THE GAME THAT THOSE TWO CALLS WERE HUGELY BIASED, NOT EVEN CLOSE. WHY SHOULD REFS BE EXEMPT FROM BAD PERFORMANCE AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. IS THIS THE WWF OR THE NFL????



Since: May 21, 2009
Posted on: January 15, 2012 8:46 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

From the story:
It was a terrible break for the Giants, an unbelievable stroke of luck for the Packers, and a pretty good reason for wondering if there needs to be another safeguard in the review process.
There was nothing "lucky" about it. It was an obvious call. Either the NFL is corrupt, The replay official is corrupt, or he is a blind idiot. I have wondered for a long time if the ref's are influencing the game without the best of intentions. This one was so obvious it is pathetic. The phantom roughing the passer when there was CLEARLY no hit to the head is further evidence.



Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: January 15, 2012 8:35 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

The league needs to send replays to a neutral third party in the booth at each game.  My theory as to why officials still manage to blow calls that go to review is that when they reverse their own calls upon review they actually hurt their own stats (and egos) by admitting they got the call wrong.  I believe the league partially bases its system of rewarding officials into playoff games by how accurate those officials are in their calls during the season.  If that is correct then why would an official want to overturn their own calls which confirms they got the call wrong in the first place?  We all know these guys have a tough job and they have to make quick decisions in real time without replay, but when a call is challenged teams and fans need to know that the officials will be honest and correct a call when video replay shows they got it wrong in real time.  A neutral third party in the booth for replay challenges would take the replay decision out of the hands of people who have a stake in the outcome of the replay results.  As for that "non'fumble" by the Pack tonight, that is a perfect example of a ref not wanting to overturn their own call when it was blatantly obvious that they got it wrong and stuborness could have had a major impact on the result of a game two teams spent an entire season working towards.  Put an end to it!



Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: January 15, 2012 8:24 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

Thank goodness for instant reply! It really takes the stupid calls out of the game. Oh lord, what are these people smoking? That was a pretty clear fumble. Then, tack on the phantom hit to the head call. The Giants should protest somehow. Those were so bad as to lead one to believe there was some interest on the part of some to have a certain outcome. Good for the Giants that they overcame the incompetent referees.



Since: Sep 16, 2007
Posted on: January 15, 2012 8:23 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

I knew it!!! I said this a few years ago... when they go under the hood, they don't watch the replays, but porn instead. 

I always knew that porn would cripple society, and now it's crippled the NFL! 

Where's Arlen Specter when we need him? 



Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: January 15, 2012 8:16 pm
 

Packers get lucky on Greg Jennings fumble review

Two more terrible calls aganst the Giants, and I'm not a Giants fan. Somebody needs t be fired.



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