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Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

Posted on: January 26, 2012 9:02 pm
Edited on: January 26, 2012 10:11 pm
Manning says he doesn't want things to get 'personal' with Jim Irsay. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

It's been an odd week for the Colts leading up to everyone and their brother arriving for the Super Bowl. First, there were Peyton Manning's comments on Monday night about how weird a place Lucas Oil Stadium had become with the changes to the Colts organization, among other things. Jim Irsay didn't like what Manning said, and called the quarterback a "politician" who was "campaigning" in his interview.

Manning has responded, via comments to Bob Kravitz of the Indianapolis Star, and he's taking the high road.

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"At this point, Mr. Irsay and I owe it to each other and to the fans of the organization to handle this appropriately and professionally, and I think we will," Manning told Kravitz on Thursday night. "I've already reached out to Mr. Irsay. I wasn't trying to paint the Colts in a bad light, but it's tough when so many people you've known for so long are suddenly leaving. I feel very close to a lot of these guys and we've done great things together.

"It's hard to watch an old friend clean out his office. That's all I was trying to say."

Manning likely knows his time is done in Indy. He has to. But as with his comments on Monday, he's not stirring up his dirt when it comes to what he thinks the Colts will do with his contract.

"I just want to keep rehabbing and working hard, and when the time is right for Mr. Irsay and I to sit down, I look forward to a healthy conversation about my future," Manning said. "I've worked too hard and have such great respect and have so many great relationships inside the building and out, and it's incredibly important that those remain."

Manning also knows how different his legacy in Indy could be depending on how he exits stage right. Which is why he doesn't want things to get personal.

"I want to separate the personal and the business," Manning told Kravitz. "I've seen it get personal in other situations, and I don't want that to happen here."

A perfect example of this is the Brett Favre saga that went down in Green Bay. Things got personal. Things got ugly. And fans in Green Bay hated Favre after he left.

Manning is a smart dude, and he obviously has a ton of love in his heart for Indianapolis and the Colts organization. But he's also smart. Even if his comments on Monday were "campaigning," they weren't part of any type of negative campaign.

Irsay fired the first salvo and now Manning's walking away. If the Colts owner chooses not to do the same things won't get heated, but they will get awkward.

And it's already gotten personal.

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Since: Jun 4, 2007
Posted on: January 27, 2012 12:41 pm

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

Like father , like son !!! The father raped Baltimore and now the son is trying to rape Mannning.

Since: Jun 13, 2007
Posted on: January 27, 2012 12:33 pm

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

I don't like how Irsay is disposing of a legend - it's not the "what" here but the "how" - but Manning is working the press masterfully here. Round 1: Manning fires multiple salvos at the team (and thus owner) in an interview. Round 2: Irsay fires back Round 3: manning "takes the high road" and says he and Isay owe it to everyone to handle it "professionally." In other words, Manning throw the first punch and STILL comes away looking like the victim and the good guy. Awesome!

Since: Jun 17, 2007
Posted on: January 27, 2012 12:17 pm

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal' most of us, Irsay's couldn't look worse. And I agree with all of that.

Irsay will have his day. He's about to find out that MANY of his fans ride more for Peyton than they do for the brand. I don't know any Colts fans who aren't Colts fans because of Peyton Manning. I'm sure they are out there, and I wish them the best. But Irsay is basically insuring that the future will be bleak. Just like it was before Manning, Polian, and the regime he just put at the curb.

Apparenlty Irsay thinks he is some sort of a mastermind like Jerry Jones. Well, we know what's happened to the Cowboys since Johnson left. Switzer took Johnson's team and won the Super Bowl - since then, not much to speak of with Jerry Jones at the controls.

Bottom line:  Colts w/Manning = Super Bowl contender.  Without Manning = 2-14. Granted, Pagano will get more defense out of his players, more than likely, but nonetheless - the drop from Manning to Luck insures that the next couple years they won't be playing for much past week 7 or 8.

And, I like what a few of you said:  If I were Andrew Luck, there's no way I'd join this organization!  Hey, Andrew, you can play 13 seasons in a row, Hall of Fame career, brings us more fans than we could dream of, help us build a new stadium, and the FIRST TIME you miss playing time, we'll move you for the "next big thing"!

Bye Bye Colts - your run as a yearly contender and respected franchise looks like it's coming to an end.

As for me? I'll be pulling for Peyton, wherever he ends up playing! 

Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: January 27, 2012 12:03 pm

Manning and Irsay

Sorry, that should have read "Irsay", not Polian.

Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: January 27, 2012 11:54 am

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

Only problem with Phoenix is it's an NFC team. It's ok to get to a SuperBowl and 2 brothers duke it out for the prize. But if they both play in the same conference, it wouldn't be possible. That's why Eli wanted an immediate trade out of San Diego so as not to play in same conference as Peyton. Peyton would be looking in AFC for landing spots. Something tells me he won't be ready by trade, free agent deadline. He's got a lot of rehab still and he does want to remain a Colt. He may have to coach, scout etc until he's ready to play-IF he is medically cleared. HE's between a big rock and a very hard place!

Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: January 27, 2012 11:54 am

Manning and Irsay

I don't root for Indianapolis, but I've always admired Peyton for his excellence as a player, his great sense of humor and his humility despite his accomplishments.  While it's always going to be painful when the hero gets old (after all, this is the topic of Beowulf, written 800 years ago), it's sickening to see how Polian is handling his end of the deal.  Under the circumstances of the changes taking place, Peyton had every right to express a few of his own feelings, which I think are entirely unstandable to the football public.  He's a legend, in Indy and the entire NFL--but he's not allowed to talk about the hard times and struggles at the end?  Irsay telling Peyton to shut up, dismissing him as a "politician", then pretending to be only concerned about Peyton's health and well-being is puke-inducing.  It's interesting to read in these postings that many Indy fans are wishing the worst upon their franchise over this--I think I would feel that way too.

How's this for a poetic justice scenario:  Irsay and the Colts cut Peyton before his March payment is due.  They assume that Andrew Luck will be theirs.  Luck, however, just like John Elway before him, tells the Irsays he won't come.  The younger Irsay, just like his stubborn father, calls Luck's "bluff", and drafts him anyway.  Luck never shows up in Indy, not wanting to work for an organization that trashed the legend before him.  After all, doesn't the Colt's treatment of Manning inform the next QB what he can expect from the organization?  Eventually the Colts find a team that will trade for Luck, but not at the value the QB would have commanded had the #1 pick been traded pre-draft.  The Colts enter a longterm period as an NFL cellar dweller.  Peyton goes to a middle tier team that is absolutely delighted to have him, immediately improves their record by multiple wins, and takes them to the playoffs, and is highly motivated to kick tail and win a superbowl.

As far a odds of this happening are concerned, you got to figure that all the firings and the house cleaning, plus the $26 million due, all but guarantee Peyton will be gone.  It is a business decision, certainly, but done with smugness, self-justification, pretense to a moral high road and a couple kicks in Peyton's direction.  Maybe it's like the Jerry Jones-Jimmy Johnson thing:  the owner resents the person who brought the organization success and has a vindictive thing going, despite public statements about "love" and &quo
t;family".  Luck and Elway share being Standford QBs and having high level, experienced football coach fathers who know people and can pull strings for a better outcome for the sons.  Let's be honest:  while a poor black kid may have little leverage to buck the draft system, even if they are headed for a hell-hole of a franchise, a well-connected football family is a different story.  If Luck refuses to go to the Colts, it will not fatally damage his career, anymore than it did Elway's.  It might even save his career.  The precedent is already there, and much of the public would even sympathize with Luck.  Finally, Irsay is a fool--a FOOL.  Who Tweets random rock lyrics and incoherent bits and pieces of thoughts?  Somebody who thinks people are a whole lot more interested in him than reality warrants.  Somebody who believes he is worth listening to.  This is the same person who thinks that Peyton doesn't have a right to talk.  Peyton's interview was with the local paper--Peyton was  telling his own fans what was going on, and how he was feeling about it.  And this is forbidden?

The smart thing to do would have been to keep Peyton on board in high spirits, get him players he needs to have a couple more successful years, spell out Peyton's path to moving up to the front office or the coaching staff, create the goodwill needed to re-shape Peyton's contract so Luck could be drafted and learn from Peyton--in short, build a graceful, dignified transition that would also get some wins the next couple years.  Obviously this is not what the Colts have done.  Irsay has already taken a wrecking bar to his organization, and it looks pretty ugly. 

Since: Dec 17, 2009
Posted on: January 27, 2012 11:50 am

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

The Colts are a superbowl contender with P.Manning. Without him they are the worst team in the league. Irsay has been spoiled having Manning and he is taking it for granted.  A.Luck as good as he was in college will not be Manning. The Colts if they get rid of Manning now will be mediocre for at best the next 3 -5 years. Kind of like the Cavs losing L.James and now getting K.Irving except L.James is a tool and left on his own and in this case Indy is going to give Manning the boot.

Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: January 27, 2012 11:48 am

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

Manning doesn't get it!  He really doesn't get it and thinks he is bigger than the owner.  He is digging his grave for sure.  His comments were unprofessional and his follow-up was more unprofessional to suggest the ownership do anything.  He is gone for sure...just a mtter of time.  Te writings all over the wall and he is ruing his image with every comment to the public.  Peyton, shut up you have been wanna be superstar.

Who is Manning ruining his image with?  It would appear by most of the comments here that most people side with Manning and think Isray is acting like a spoiled baby.  But, I guess we can all see this situation however we like. 

Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: January 27, 2012 11:40 am

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

This situation is out of control and that is unfair to Peyton Manning. His comments were NOT out of line, just honest and harmless. Mr Irsay makes daily comments in Twitterland which cause speculation and started the 'stirring of this pot'. Now Peyton is simply trying to shut it down for the sake of the organization. If Irsay is planning to opt out of the bonus payment, then just do it. I wouldn't try to trade him to get picks and money. He may just make that backfire and call it a day. Unrestricted free agent would be more suitable to Peyton. He should pick his own destination, he deserves to. IF he's not medically cleared soon, he may just have to sit out another season and have more time to decide his own future. Since this fiasco started (Irsay is paranoid) I've read hundreds of fan comments. Colts fans love Peyton, other team fans want him. It will be his choice, no matter what the Colts owner and his new staff are cooking up. Peyton is a smart man. He has the upper hand on this any way you look at it. I just hope he gets healthy and never endures a hit that will end such a superior career. If he can't play, he won't. He has multiple choices of what he can work at.

Since: Nov 21, 2011
Posted on: January 27, 2012 11:39 am

Manning doesn't want Irsay talk to get 'personal'

5 stars on that one pat fan!

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