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Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

Posted on: January 27, 2012 11:05 am
Edited on: January 27, 2012 2:44 pm
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Roethlisberger and Rooney are going to have a meeting, apparently. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Former Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians left the team under suspicious circumstances: first he was retiring, then he was fired, then he said he "wasn't offered a contract" ... it was all really weird and awkward. And it's not making Ben Roethlisberger happy.

And Roethlisberger, apparently, is going to march right up to Art Rooney II's office and ask him what's going on.

"When I get back, I'm going to go up to Mr. Rooney's office and ask him what he wants from me, what he wants from this offense, because I think that's a viable question for him," Roethlisberger told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review on Thursday in Honolulu. "He's our owner and our boss, so I really would like to know kind of what he wants and where he sees our offense going because I'd like to tell him where I see us going."

Rooney previously cited the points scored by the Steelers in 2011 as an issue with Arians. And the owner has a fair point, as the Steelers only ranked as a top-10 unit once under Arians, which was during his first year in 2007 when they were ninth in the NFL in scoring.

However, Football Outsiders ranks the Steelers as a top-10 unit in DVOA every year of Arians tenure but one. And there's little question that under Arians, the Steelers moved from a traditional ground-and-pound stereotype that people attach to Pittsburgh to a full-on aerial assault.

"We feel like we are really close to being an elite offense," Roethlisberger told the Tribune-Review. "For your leader to be gone is kind of a shocker, but you've got to be ready for whatever the Rooneys and coach [Mike] Tomlin decide it our next step."

Roethlisberger has consistently defended Arians over the past, and the T-R notes that he was taking him to Hawaii as one of his guests for the Pro Bowl until things got murky with his contract situation.

Ben's job is certainly safer. But he's not exactly doing himself any favors with the way he's phrasing his "request" for a meeting with Rooney.

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Since: Oct 23, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2012 10:18 pm
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

he has the right to ask his eployer a what thay was tinking if he wonts to and you need to leve him alon about the rape stuff that chick got what she wonted from him and the court she knew what she was doing dont be dumb if you think she did'ent you are the dumb one.
he is still the best QB in the NFL

Yes, he can ask his "eployer" what "thay was tinking, if he wonts to"
But as an "eployer" I would tell him to leave me "alon" because because I don't "wont" to tell "thay" that I "did'ent" want to be the
dumb one.








      







      
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Since: Jan 28, 2012
Posted on: January 28, 2012 7:35 pm
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

That has nothing to do with what this article is about




Since: Jan 28, 2012
Posted on: January 28, 2012 7:28 pm
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

Some writers have been getting what Ben said mixed up. Ben did not say that he was going to go to Art and ask why BA was not retained?, he said that he was going to go to Art and ask him what he wants from the offense?, how he wants the offense to be? There's not a big deal about that, except that he should of not told the media that he is going to do that. He slipped with that but asking Art how he wants the offense to be is no big deal.




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 28, 2012 1:27 pm
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

Civil trials can drag out for weeks particularly if you bring in enough witnesses and experts, the costs to such litigation can be enormous.  Expert witnesses get about 2500.00/day plus expenses depending on the expert.  Going to court over the Vegas case would have easily cost Ben over a million in litigation costs. 

I know what you're saying but if you're Ben and you truly know you're innocent a trip to Vegas for a a couple weeks and 1 million dollars is not a big deal and certainly not a reason to give in to a girl that supposedly lied about what happened that night.  You do understand that Ben and his lawyers publicly stated multiple times the girl was lying, don't you?  Since when does it make sense for an innocent person to put what's probably a considerable amount of money in a person's pocket that's completely lying ?  Answer: It doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying Ben is innocent, I am just saying he would have gained nothing by being cleared and it would have cost him dearly.  Once he was cleared, everyone would have assumed he won because his high priced lawyers bullied his alleged victim or outslicked the ambulance chaser the alleged victim hired. 

Not completely true.  If Ben would have beaten this girl in civil court anybody with a brain would know it's very likely the girl was lying because it doesn't take nearly as much proof to beat somebody in civil court.  But when he paid her off that's when most people believe he's guilty.  Of course for some it wouldn't matter, but I can confidently say less people would have believed he was guilty if he would have fought the civil charges.

His actions over Arians merely underscore his sense of entitlement and more than anything else, make Ben look like a spoiled brat.  
Makes the girl look more credible  regardless of the truth

Very true.  I agree with what you just said 100 percent.  But there are other things that happened in the past that make the girls look more credible as well  A restaurant manager of a restaurant Ben visited was coincidentally fired after many years on the job only days after Ben visited the place.  Why?  Ben brought in a couple underage girls the manager refused to serve liquor to which at the time upset Ben.  Also a coincidence is Ben is great friends with the president and owner of that restaurant, goes on golf trips with him, etc.    

Little things like that make me believe Ben has issues and that he's a liar.  You lie to me once in life I may never completely trust you again, that's just how I see things.  Once a liar always a liar
 



Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: January 28, 2012 12:41 pm
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

JUST GET A heathy, respectable OFFENSIVE LINE; then, there won't be anything to worry about.  A new OC certainly will help too because any Steelers fan could sit and announce what play was coming before the snap, so I'm pretty sure an NFL DC could too.
Those of us who still love and support Ben because we love the Steelers would appreciate it if maybe he would handle things like this a little more delicately...we woiuld love it if they all would.



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: January 28, 2012 12:39 pm
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

How do you know what the settlement was?  She also dropped her lawsuit against Harrahs?  It's very likely they paid her off and that's why this case went away.  It's been reported by nobody that she received money.  And yes, if it costs less to pay her off then to go to court, it was the right decision.  Whether I have common sense or not is for others to decide, but I do know this: we weren't in the bathroom in Georgia or the hotel room in Harrahs in Reno, so neither of us can be certain he's guilty of anything.



Since: Feb 18, 2009
Posted on: January 28, 2012 12:39 pm
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

The bottom line is Ben wasn't charged criminall because his hotshot lawyers only have to find the slightest hole in a girl's testimony and suddenly he's not "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt".  And the fact the girls he raped can't afford hotshot lawyers for criminal trials where there is no return on their money makes it that much harder for the crown to really trust they can find Ben guilty.

But in civil court you don't have to prove anybody guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.  If most of the evidence is against Ben he'll lose big money.  And in civil court the girls can afford the best lawyers in the country because they'll work on commission, something they can't do trying to help a girl in criminal court.  And since Ben knows the evidence points at rape, he had to settle out of court.
Well, yes and no. In any civil lawsuit, even if you are completely guiltless, you are always best served by settling the suit.  Civil trials can drag out for weeks particularly if you bring in enough witnesses and experts, the costs to such litigation can be enormous.  Expert witnesses get about 2500.00/day plus expenses depending on the expert.  Going to court over the Vegas case would have easily cost Ben over a million in litigation costs.

The question is such cases always boils down to, "is restoring my reputation worth the financial and emotional trauma of  fighting the charges?"   The fast is the answer is almost always an emphatic, "no." 

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying Ben is innocent, I am just saying he would have gained nothing by being cleared and it would have cost him dearly.  Once he was cleared, everyone would have assumed he won because his high priced lawyers bullied his alleged victim or outslicked the ambulance chaser the alleged victim hired.

Settling the lawsuit made sense regardless of guilt. Unfortunately for Ben, there is no way he can buy back his image.

His actions over Arians merely underscore his sense of entitlement and more than anything else, make Ben look like a spoiled brat. 
Makes the girl look more credible  regardless of the truth.



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: January 28, 2012 8:55 am
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

Just don't meet with him at a bar in Georgia. Ben will come unabated into Rooney's backfield.



Since: Nov 1, 2011
Posted on: January 28, 2012 7:45 am
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

If Mendenhall didn't dance so much in the backfield we would still have a power running attack.  Compare Medenhall (dancer) to Redman (smasher) and you see how it played out.  Redman ALWAYS falls forward, Mendenhall dances then loses 3 yards.  If the Steelers would ever decide to spend the millions they have wrapped up in a make-shift O-Line and spend it on some quality linemen, the sky is the limit.  We are just as explosive as the Saints/Packers, couple that with a dominate run game and defenses won't be able to stop us. 



Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: January 28, 2012 2:17 am
 

Ben wants meeting with Rooney over Arians release

It's not a suprise that Ben wants Arians around, he's scared that a new OC might go back to the smashmouth run game and take away from his glory of passing and putting up numbers. I know the NFL is turning into a huge passing league, but the Steelers were always a running team. If they by chance get a guy who wants to run first, Ben's going to lose his shine and be angry. He's selfish


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