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Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Posted on: February 8, 2012 5:37 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Assuming he's healthy, all signs are pointing to Manning playing elsewhere in 2012. (Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

Peyton Manning's change in fortune has been swift. Prior to the 2011 season, the general perception of what he meant to Indianapolis went something like this: he had singlehandedly saved the Colts from themselves, led them to a Super Bowl title in 2006, and his accomplishments were the currency that helped fund Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Now, days removed from Super Bowl XLVI -- hosted in Indianapolis by the way -- Manning has gone from patron saint of the city to public enemy No. 1. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but not by much.

In the weeks prior to the Giants-Patriots matchup, Manning spoke with the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz about his future with the Colts. The takeaway: Peyton had no intentions of retiring, even if his future wasn't with in Indy.

Owner Jim Irsay fired back, calling Manning "a politician," the two then issued a joint statement professing great love and admiration for one another. And that appeared to be that. Neither side spoke in specifics about their situations during Super Bowl Week … until Thursday evening, when Manning's camp leaked word that Manning had been medically cleared to play. This was news to everyone, including Irsay, who tweeted hours later that "Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts."

And it was at that point that the public, which had firmly supported Peyton basically since the moment he was drafted in 1998, began to view the franchise quarterback differently.

During a Wednesday appearance on "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Kravitz talked about the he-said, he-said back-and-forth posturing by both camps and what it means for the future of Peyton and the Colts.

"I think people are starting to sway over to Jim Irsay's side on this," Kravitz told Kornheiser. "… It's such a no-brainer. It's been a no-brainer since they went to 0-13. He could give them money to play football. Andrew Luck has got to play, okay? It's not even about the $35 million anymore. I mean, the guy's arm is a noodle, he can't throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there's no way of knowing whether he's going to be ready or not."

Wow. "Arm is a noodle" is nowhere near "been medically cleared to play." But that doesn't mean Manning won't be healthy at some point. It's just that nobody knows when.

“I know some of the people that have seen him throw,” Kravitz continued. "They say he’s not throwing like an NFL quarterback yet. That doesn’t mean he never will.  This thing is going to take time. Structurally, he’s sound. Structurally, he can take a hit.”

In response to a question from Kornheiser that "Manning hijacked the Super Bowl," Kravitz responded, "I'm quite sure [Peyton] did it deliberately.

"I lost a lot of -- I don't want to say respect for him -- but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and not say that his conversation with me was political and calculated, but there's no doubt in my mind that that story breaking Thursday night right around the time every single TV station is doing an exclusive on Andrew Luck (and, it turns out, blog).

"It comes out on Thursday night about six o'clock -- that doesn't come out unless the Peyton Manning camp wants it to come out. They're putting public pressure on Jim Irsay. It was calculated, it was deceptive, I didn't think it was a good time to do it. And, yes, he absolutely stole the Super Bowl. … I don't think there's any doubt that he stole some of the attention away from the Super Bowl.

"Look, that story was going to be there whether he opened his mouth or not, but he had given us every indication that he was going to go underground and only do his Gatorade and DirecTV thing and then shut the hell up," Kravitz said. "And he didn't do that. I thought that that was kind of smarmy. …

"You got Andrew Luck, just start over, I wish they could make the decision today or tomorrow and move on with it. Instead we're just … holding onto something that doesn't really exist."

So, yeah, if it wasn't obvious before, we think it couldn't be clearer now: Peyton's played his last game for the Colts, and Eli was the last Manning to play in Lucas Oil Stadium during the 2011 season.

Now the only question is if the Redskins are still interested in Manning's services. (Obvious answer: of course they are!)

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Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2012 7:05 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I am a Colts fan, This Year came out of no where with 0-13 plus All of the Manning talk. I don't understand how after 1 year missed beacuse of Injury Everyone Turns on Manning. I hate to say it but New England would never do that to Brady. Now with that being said I want the Colts to Keep Manning but I also Have to look Back at all the Times he let us (The Fan Base) down Year after Year. I am worried about Luck Beacuse he has that same look that If he wins its cool but if he loses its cool too. That always killed me about Peyton. How bout they Get a Good Running Back and DEFENSE!!!!!!! Beacuse The Colts stink and will continue to do so for the near Future. BARF BARF>>>>>>>

Since: Jul 6, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2012 3:07 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

This is a good write-up and is true Peyton has played his last game as a Colt and possibly as a professional QB.  Emotions will be high with everyone involved; fans, ownership, players, and media.  But the fact is this is a cycle; it happens every decade, a different organization, the question comes up about loyalty and trust.  A true fan is someone like a Cubs fan.  An owner that is a good owner does what's best for the overall success of the organization and not just for a season or two, but for several.  Peyton is one of the best QB's to play the game, now he should think about his family and health.  It's always disappointing to see the "cog in the wheel" player leave the team; ie Emmitt Smith, Joe Montana, and many others but it happens it's part of the game.  A lot of Packer fans weren't pleased when Farve moved on, look what happened to them.  The genesis of the Colts is at a new, it's just getting through the emotions and transition that's the most difficult time.  Johnny Unitas was a great Colts QB and he wasn't their last great QB.  Manning won't be the end of the Colts.  Everyone needs to think about what's best for their interest and nobody is wrong or bad when thinking that way.  Irsay, the next decades to follow, Manning, the next decades as well. 

Since: Sep 3, 2008
Posted on: February 11, 2012 2:14 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Hey tdmanning2....I will take 3 out of 5 super bowl wins over 1 out of 2 super bowl wins.  A QB doesn't win or lose a game by himself, no matter how good he is.  Not to mention the ridiculous amount of luck the Giants have gotten in both SB wins over the Pats.  If being in contention to win a superbowl nearly every year is: "Getting what we deserve".  I think we will take it.  Nice season by the way. 

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2012 5:09 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Chris Mortenson from ESPN just contradicted this report about Peytons arm stating that "He is throwing the ball well, hitting 25yard outs to the sideline and his arm rehab is at or ahead of schedule and he expects him to be at 100% well before the start of the season." This was after Mortenson watched Peyton throw the ball, in person, within the past few days.

I lived in Indy for 10 years from 1998-2008. Kravitz is a schill for the Colts, which you have to kind of expect. He is making a case for Irsay to let him go. Irsay should just cut the cord. Peyton will either resign with the Colts with a different pay structure, or move on. He is just making himself look like more of a drunk idiot than he is with his twitter horseshit and smear campaign. He is in a no win situation with Peyton. Don't make it worse than it need to be. Either way, I believe he will play, and play well, in 2012.

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2012 3:44 pm

Kravitz "noodle writer"

This classless idiotic wirter is talking about a tremendous athlete who is trying to earn as much as possible until the leaugue/owners throw his ass on the street.   The owners are just looking out for their best interests, it's a selfish league of owners and your only as good as your last game. In your case your should have been thrown our for writing such a bad article.

Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: February 10, 2012 12:59 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

This PatDrool59 is a total DB and DA.  It's funny how Brady can't win the big one without the real MVP Adam V and his defense from the early 2000's.  Now his dumba$$ wife though she is cute, is coming to his aid and crying about his recievers...Rex Ryan won't have to worry about kissing anymore rings on Belichick.  Their drafts have been horrible and marginal over the past 5 years and it is showing in a big way...maybe Julian Edelman or Wes Welker is the answer to their defensive woes....Pats are getting what they deserve and the fans especially, all the while sporting a 3-4 Super won/loss record.........Brady was just a piece of the overall puzzle during the championship years..

Since: Jul 11, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2012 9:57 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I agree.  I used to live in Indy and Kravitz is a hack writer

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2012 8:38 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Seems like this reporter had accurate sources.

I've hated Satan Manning, now I feel bad for him. I want him to play at least a couple more years so he can officially stomp on the morons who may actually believe that shEli is the better Manning. What a joke.
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl too, is he elite?

Look Giants fans can brag all they want about beating the Patriots, but just beating the Patriots shouldn't prop up a qb to another level.

Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: February 10, 2012 6:48 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Vould you like shnitzel vis your NOODLE, sir?

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2012 3:43 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I can see a campbells soup commercial in the works.Seriously though, Peyton could be sporting a wheelchair & at least 1 team would still be interested.Even with a noodle arm I'm sure at least 10 teams would be willing to take the chance.Especially Danial Snyder.

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