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Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Posted on: February 8, 2012 5:37 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Assuming he's healthy, all signs are pointing to Manning playing elsewhere in 2012. (Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

Peyton Manning's change in fortune has been swift. Prior to the 2011 season, the general perception of what he meant to Indianapolis went something like this: he had singlehandedly saved the Colts from themselves, led them to a Super Bowl title in 2006, and his accomplishments were the currency that helped fund Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Now, days removed from Super Bowl XLVI -- hosted in Indianapolis by the way -- Manning has gone from patron saint of the city to public enemy No. 1. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but not by much.

In the weeks prior to the Giants-Patriots matchup, Manning spoke with the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz about his future with the Colts. The takeaway: Peyton had no intentions of retiring, even if his future wasn't with in Indy.

Owner Jim Irsay fired back, calling Manning "a politician," the two then issued a joint statement professing great love and admiration for one another. And that appeared to be that. Neither side spoke in specifics about their situations during Super Bowl Week … until Thursday evening, when Manning's camp leaked word that Manning had been medically cleared to play. This was news to everyone, including Irsay, who tweeted hours later that "Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts."

And it was at that point that the public, which had firmly supported Peyton basically since the moment he was drafted in 1998, began to view the franchise quarterback differently.

During a Wednesday appearance on "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Kravitz talked about the he-said, he-said back-and-forth posturing by both camps and what it means for the future of Peyton and the Colts.

"I think people are starting to sway over to Jim Irsay's side on this," Kravitz told Kornheiser. "… It's such a no-brainer. It's been a no-brainer since they went to 0-13. He could give them money to play football. Andrew Luck has got to play, okay? It's not even about the $35 million anymore. I mean, the guy's arm is a noodle, he can't throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there's no way of knowing whether he's going to be ready or not."

Wow. "Arm is a noodle" is nowhere near "been medically cleared to play." But that doesn't mean Manning won't be healthy at some point. It's just that nobody knows when.

“I know some of the people that have seen him throw,” Kravitz continued. "They say he’s not throwing like an NFL quarterback yet. That doesn’t mean he never will.  This thing is going to take time. Structurally, he’s sound. Structurally, he can take a hit.”

In response to a question from Kornheiser that "Manning hijacked the Super Bowl," Kravitz responded, "I'm quite sure [Peyton] did it deliberately.

"I lost a lot of -- I don't want to say respect for him -- but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and not say that his conversation with me was political and calculated, but there's no doubt in my mind that that story breaking Thursday night right around the time every single TV station is doing an exclusive on Andrew Luck (and, it turns out, blog).

"It comes out on Thursday night about six o'clock -- that doesn't come out unless the Peyton Manning camp wants it to come out. They're putting public pressure on Jim Irsay. It was calculated, it was deceptive, I didn't think it was a good time to do it. And, yes, he absolutely stole the Super Bowl. … I don't think there's any doubt that he stole some of the attention away from the Super Bowl.

"Look, that story was going to be there whether he opened his mouth or not, but he had given us every indication that he was going to go underground and only do his Gatorade and DirecTV thing and then shut the hell up," Kravitz said. "And he didn't do that. I thought that that was kind of smarmy. …

"You got Andrew Luck, just start over, I wish they could make the decision today or tomorrow and move on with it. Instead we're just … holding onto something that doesn't really exist."

So, yeah, if it wasn't obvious before, we think it couldn't be clearer now: Peyton's played his last game for the Colts, and Eli was the last Manning to play in Lucas Oil Stadium during the 2011 season.

Now the only question is if the Redskins are still interested in Manning's services. (Obvious answer: of course they are!)

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Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:22 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

This article adds nothing.  We're still waiting on Peyton.

Since: Feb 8, 2012
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:21 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

This idiot Kravitz has been trying to run Payton out of the town for a long time, He couldn't do it with an healthy Payton so like a coward he is going after an injured one.

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:17 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

LovinMSU, a couple of points... I agree that nobody KNOWS what Luck is going to do.  People (experts) can speculate, but nowadays, much of the projection comes from the type of person that the guy is as much as his on-field performance.  Jamarcus Russell was fat and so lazy at LSU, and he didn't have a dollar in his pocket then.  So what happens when he gets multi- millions?  He gets LAZIER.  Leaf was a DOUCHE in college.  He had an attitude and did not work hard like Peyton Manning did.  I assume from all I have read that Luck is bright, hard- working and humble.  I am guessing he succeeds.  On another note, you rip Tebow, but that is prtty stupid.  Tebow won many games, and performed better than every rookie QB out there.  He works hard, and will improve.  A pro- style offense is brand new to Tebow.  Give him an off-season to work on TIMING (the biggest key) and he will be MORE successful than he already was.  The stats may be ugly, but stats are for losers.  The scoreboard is the only stat that counts, and Tebow won many more than he lost.  Give the kid a break.

Since: Feb 8, 2012
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:16 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

u must be living in a different planet!!!Payton's numbers have been good only aftr Faulk left the team. After seeing how the colts played this year how can you say that he was not their savior? he took the same team to 10-6 last year and to playoffs look where they are this year? sucking for Luck...All those first rounders you mentioned (Wayne, Clark, Freeney, Addai and Anthony Gonzalez) played this year and proved that they were nothing without Payton.

Since: Feb 23, 2009
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:15 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

HEY KRAVITZ everyone knows you are nothing more than a parasite hosting mannings every move. you'd better hope he doesnt leave. he and the colts will still be newsn you however will go back to being Mr. Insignifigant

Since: Sep 13, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:14 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Colt's fans had better take a trip back to 1995. Before Mr. Manning arrived, your team was horrible. Mr. Luck looks like the real deal but NOTHING is a GUARENTEE!!!

Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:14 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

In the end, everyone is just going to have to accept the basic reality of the situation:  the Colts can't gamble $28 million plus his salary against their cap just in case he can play again.  It just isn't a realistic business move.  And they won't KNOW... not for sure... by the time the bonus comes due in a few weeks.

The timing of the bonus is unfortunate, but that's the way of it.  The only reasonable business move left to them is to rebuild and move on.  That's just too much to bet on one roll of the dice.

And from Peyton's standpoint, what can you do?  He can't hurry the healing process along.  It's not like he can instantaneously regain the strength in his arm.  So... he'll just have to keep with the rehab, and if/when he can play again, I'm sure he'll have no problem finding a team.

That's just the way it is.  I wish him well, and I wish it hadn't all turned out that way, but it is what it is.  It's just a shame they couldn't see it that way and keep all the nasty sniping out of it.

Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:13 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Exhibit A on why athletes should have zero loyalty to "fans" or a "team" and should just try to make as much money as possible for themselves. Fans are really stupid. This is also why politicians actually don't care about the public, the public is far too stupid to be grateful or supportive of what you do for them, so it's better just to screw them over and let the media make you out to be a saint for doing it.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:07 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

The Colts haven't had a "hit" with a first round pick since 2003.  That will drag down a team's talent level.  The best they've had since them is Joseph Addai, with his lone pro bowl year a long time ago, and he was always "James-lite".  It's amazing to me that Manning has kept them in contention as long as he has.

Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:05 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I want to know wheere its written that Andrew Luck is going to be a great NFL QB that is capable of winning games.  I mean Leaf was a bust, Russell was a bust, in fact 1st round QB draft picks since about 1987 havent been very good in the NFL.  But if you listen to the "experts" and I use that term loosely you would swear Andrew Luck was proven.  He is a superstar already and going to be as good as Peyton was.  Fact is Luck could suck like Tim Tebow.  Or be worse than Tim if thats humanly possible.
But what I want to know is why Indianapolis wouldnt take the chance that he could return to what he was?  Why would you release him or trade him to another team that could get another 8 to 10 years out of him and constantly beat you everytime the two teams meet?

I tend to believe the Colts are planning to keep Peyton Manning because they hired a defensive minded coach and they DO NOT HAVE AN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR!  If the writing was on the wall they would have hired an O Cord already.  By not hiring one I dont understand where everyone gets this the signals are there that hes done bull.

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