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Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

Posted on: February 15, 2012 2:24 pm
Cris Carter believes his numbers are good enough to get into the Hall of Fame. (US Presswire)
By Josh Katzowitz

Cris Carter might disagree with my assessment of how the Hall of Fame selection process should mostly maintain its status quo, but we agree on one aspect of the current state of voters --they’re having a tough time figuring out what to do with the wide receivers.

For the second straight year, the upcoming induction class won’t feature a receiver, even though Tim Brown, Andre Reed and Carter are all legitimate candidates. The problem is that the voters are split between Reed and Carter, and with an 80 percent vote needed to get a player in the HOF, neither have managed to siphon enough votes to top that requirement.

“I think the modern day wide receiver … his skill level is not appreciated,” Carter told Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin on WQAM radio in Miami (via” It’s not just about the numbers. It’s the ability to catch the football and put your talent on display. That being in the 1980s and 90s and you know I played in three different decades, so Mike people like yourself … people like Joe Montana, people have said things to me… when you all say something to me it really means a lot more. I can’t do no more. I appreciate what you guys are saying and doing everything, but I pleaded my case those 16 years I played in this league.”

Carter -- who had 1,101 catches, 13,899 yards, and 130 touchdowns during his career -- has better numbers than Tim Brown (Carter has less yards receiving but 30 more touchdowns) and Andre Reed. But as Carter says, it’s not just about statistics.

So, how good can he feel about his chances for the Hall now that he’s been rejected for the past five years?

“I felt good my first year,” Carter said. “I mean, I am the only person alive that’s eligible for the Hall of Fame that has 130 touchdowns that is not in it, so when you have a stat like that ... You got more touchdowns than Jim Brown and Walter Payton like…I mean I am not campaigning for the Hall of Fame, so for me the list doesn’t change every year. My numbers ain’t going to change. It’s just too much productivity over the time…like I have no argument Mike. I really don’t.”

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Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: February 15, 2012 7:40 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

pimpslapped1, Carter earned his delayed entry with hard work. He's left a lot of hard feelings in a lot of people, including HOF voters. Plus, there'll always be this question to be answered: Without Anthony Carter and Randy Moss, is he as big a deal as he thinks he is?

Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: February 15, 2012 7:12 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

HOF is getting watered down more and more each year.  At no point of their careers, were Reid or Carter ever considered the best in the league.  Carter is borderline HOF.  Reid shouldn't be in the conversation.  Solid player + long career = good stats.  The numbers lie.  

Since: Sep 5, 2009
Posted on: February 15, 2012 4:02 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

      Carter talks about having more TD's than Jim Brown and he does, 130 to 106.  But Carter played 112 more games (230 to 118) so comparing his lifetime stats to Brown's is a joke.  Come to think of it, including Cris in any sentence with Jim Brown and Walter Payton is a joke.  Quit crying, Cris- if you are truly great, others will recognize this and vote you in.

Since: Jan 16, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 3:58 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

Carter, Reed, and Brown need to be elected before T.O. becomes eligible and muddles the situation.....just joking, of course....someone who was a pariah and dissed his teammates like T.O. did shouldn't even be considered.

Since: Sep 8, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 3:57 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

how come almost every day I read something about or said by Cris Carter?

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 3:49 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

Based on stats and a simple eye test when reviewing tape or from memory, Reed and Carter were elite record setting receivers of their time. I'm not so sure Brown ever gets in or deserves to get in. He was good, but I don't remember him being spectacular. As the NFL has become more pass friendly, guys from the late 80's to early 2000 number will look weaker by the year. They need to get in now before people like Owens and Moss become eligible, although neither of those two ever won a Super Bowl either. Kind of the same argument, just a different era. Maybe Moss and Owens will the Reed and Carter of the late 90's-2010 era.

Since: Jan 24, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 3:26 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

Vegas...could not agree more with you that Reed should also get into the Hall. He stats read...951 receptions 13,198 yards 87 TDs and had 4 SB appearances but no wins. Lofton gets in with very comparable stats but also has not SB wins and one less appearance. No doubt the voters look at SBs as the top of the food chain reasoning behind any individual getting into the hall but as Pimp said concerning the Cowboy's just because you played in the SB and got a ring, it does not mean you should get into the hall.

I'm curious if the voters are limited as to number of votes they can cast each year? Based on the article, Reed and Carter need to "siphon" votes from each other in order to get in...why not vote for both of them?

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: February 15, 2012 3:04 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

While stats are a good indication of how a player should be regarded for the HOF or not, the rings are truly the final measuring stick.  Had carter won a super bowl, he'd be in already, same with reed and tim brown.  Don't hate on me for saying that but that is reality.  Carter also had to deal with his drug problem (and it was a big one) from the 80's.  I agree though, I think Carter should already be in the HOF. Reed should get in as well since if you ask anyone to name a WR that played with the Bills, he would be the first name mentioned.  I'm not sure about Tim Brown.  He is one of the most underrated wrs out there, but he came to LA/Oakland during a period of mediocrity.  But he better hope he gets in before the next crop of WRs come along...

Since: Jan 24, 2012
Posted on: February 15, 2012 2:55 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

I have never been a Cris Carter fan but there is absolutely no reason why he should not be in the HOF. His career starts are equal to or better than other WRs that played during the same time from of the 90s and 00s. The only exception is Jerry rice and no one can touch his stats. Pulled together stats(receivieng stats) of other WRs that played around the same time that are in the HOF...
  1. Jerry Rice 1,549 receptions 22,895 yards 197 TDs 4SB appearances/ 3 SB Wins
  2. Art Monk 940 receptions 12,271 yards 68 TDs 4SB appearances/ 3 SB Wins (1 DNP)
  3. Michael Irvin 750 receptions 11,904 yards 65 TDs 3SB appearances/ 3 SB Win
  4. James Lofton 764 receptions 14,4004 yards 75 TDs 3SB appearances/ 0 SB Win

So why is he not in the HOF...plain and simple, no Super Bowl appearances! He has the 2nd most all time TDs and receptions.

I understand why SB appearances are important in the high and mighty voters mind but sometime stats are enough! Vote the guy in already!

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 15, 2012 2:49 pm

Cris Carter: Modern-day WRs are 'not appreciated'

It must be hard being interviewed by Irvin, who is in the HOF, who has 2,000 less receiving yards, 350 less receptions, and half the touchdown receptions Carter has. They played in the same era and are only a year apart. It really makes me wonder how Irvin got in before Carter. The only difference is Super Bowl rings. And the HOF is supposed to based on individual performance, not the collective team performance, right? I mean, you can't induct the entire 1990's Cowboy teams. Thats they were rewarded with a Super Bowl. Look at the number and judge for yourself. Chris Carter=Career NFL statist
ics as of 2002 Receptions     1,101 Receiving yards     13,899 Touchdowns     130.   Micahel Irvin= Career NFL statistics&nbs
p;as of 1999   750,  Receiving yards,  11,904,       65.

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