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Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

Posted on: February 16, 2012 10:22 am
Edited on: February 16, 2012 11:23 am
 
Maybe Flacco should just get Brady's contract? (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

On Tuesday we mentioned that Joe Flacco's camp and the Ravens might start talking about a new contract next week at the 2012 NFL Combine. We also discussed where Flacco fits in terms of the financial quarterback hierarchy, noting that surely he deserves to be paid more than Matt Cassel, Kevin Kolb or Ryan Fitzpatrick, $60-million men in their own right.

Apparently, we badly undershot the expectations of Flacco's camp -- Flacco's agent Joe Linta told Matt Vensel of the Baltimore Sun that the Ravens quarterback needs to get the same kind of money that a top-five quarterback would expect.

"If the game is about wins and losses, he has to be in the top five [quarterbacks],” Linta said. “He is a player who has been extremely durable, never missed a game. And he’s done something that no one has ever done. In his four years in the league, he has never missed a game and has more wins than any other quarterback."

Now, the reaction to this "WHAT?" That's understandable, because Flacco, frankly, isn't a top-five quarterback in the NFL. He's probably (definitely?) not a top-ten quarterback either. (If we were picking quarterbacks to start a team looking to win both now and in the future, we'd take Flacco 15th.)

But Linta phrased this perfectly. If the game is about wins and losses, then, yes, Flacco is a top-five quarterback. Only Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith won more games in 2011. And Flacco's won a lot of playoff games and showed that he can perform under pressure in 2011, even if his overall game took a step back.

But Flacco doesn't win those games by himself. The Ravens ranking No. 3 in overall defense in 2011 helped somewhat. As did Ray Rice and Ricky Williams rumbling Baltimore to a top-10 ranking in rushing yards.

The "quarterback wins" argument is a tired one, in our opinion, but one that still holds water, especially when negotiating a contract. But that being said, if Linta can parlay Flacco's NFL career into "top-five money," he'll be the big winner, since every single NFL player should hire him to negotiate their deals.

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Comments

Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: February 16, 2012 3:46 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

HIGHlarious. Hey agents got to do their thing, but thats funny. Id rate him about 14th in league, and I'll say this, I think Newton, Dalton and....wait for it..... Luck will all be considered better by next year bumping him even further down the list. Joe Flacco = Avg NFL starter. Top 5, not in his life.



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2012 3:33 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

Are you completely stupid?  The guy threw for 5000+ yards this season, which has only happened five times.  Cutler you could argue, but NO WAY is Flacco as good as Stafford.

Dude, 1681 of those yds went to Calvin Johnson. Of those, 600yds were jump balls. One good year does not make you a top 5 QB. Rex Gossman would pass for close to 5000 yds with Calvin Johnson as his #1 receiver. Get a grip. Flacco has won more playoff games than Stafford has played in. He would have went to the Super Bowl this year if it weren't for Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff. How did Stafford do in his playoff game? Stafford plays in a pass first offense with a running game that ranks near last in the league as well as poor statistical defense, Flacco plays in the exact opposite. So using yrds/season is not a very good measuring stick.



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: February 16, 2012 3:12 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

Joe Flacco is, I hate to admit, the up and coming Eli Manning.  Haters hate both guys because both guys seem kinda dumb and have choke citied in the past during big games.  But now?...I'd take Flacco over Tom Crybrady any day of the week. The guy can get it done.



Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: February 16, 2012 2:40 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

Top 6 QB's: Rogers, Brady, Brees, P Manning (Healthy), E Manning, Rivers. Next tier is Romo, Ryan, Stafford. That makes Flacco #10 at the best. Is he a winner, yes. Top 5, not a chance. Flacco ain't wacko, but his agent sure is!



Since: Nov 17, 2006
Posted on: February 16, 2012 2:37 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

"No way I have Stafford and Cutler in the top 10"

Are you completely stupid?  The guy threw for 5000+ yards this season, which has only happened five times.  Cutler you could argue, but NO WAY is Flacco as good as Stafford.



Since: Aug 19, 2011
Posted on: February 16, 2012 1:14 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money
Hahahahahahahahahaha!.......Hahahahahaha!!!! Too funny, that was a good one.



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2012 1:03 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

What? Romo, Stafford, Cutler, Vick, Schaub, and Ryan? Flacco is a product of the system he plays in. He has a great defense and ground game to play with. Not his Fault he doesn't put up big numbers, not to mention he just got a decent speed receiver last year out of nowhere. Flacco won't win you a bunch of games on his arm, but he also won't lose them either. The same can't be said for the guys previously mentioned. I would put Flacco right at around 9-10. No way I have Stafford and Cutler in the Top 10.



Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: February 16, 2012 12:52 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

I agree that Flacco is not Top 10, and will never be in Baltimore.  They use a QB as a game manager, not a superstar to win games.  Arguably, NOBODY would be a Top 5 QB playing in Baltimore.  Brees, Brady, Rodgers... Maybe Baltimore would tweak their system some if they had one of these guys, but it is the system in Baltimore that holds a QB back... More of the "just don't lose it for us" mentality rather than, "we are down 4 with 2 minutes to play... go score a TD for us."  That said, I don't think Flacco is the guy I want to lead my team on a must- score last minute drive.  I want Brees.  I want Eli.  I want Peyton... in that order too!  Give me Brady, Rodgers or even Big Ben next and I would be cool with that too!  



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: February 16, 2012 12:30 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

I would be hard pressed to put Flacco in the top 10 QBs.  Here are his stats from 2011:

3600+ yards -- 12th in the NFL
57.7% completion -- 25th in the NFL
20 touchdowns -- tied for 13th in the NFL (would be worse if some QBs didn't get hurt)
80.9 QB rating -- 19th in the NFL

Flacco is helped tremendously by the defense of the Ravens and the running game.  Off the top of my head -- I could name 10 QBs I'd take over Flacco in a heartbeat (in no particular order):

1. Brees
2. Brady 
3. Rodgers
4. Rivers
5. Romo
6. Stafford
7. Rothlesberger
8. P. Manning
9. E. Manning
10. J. Cutler

That is 10 QBs right there -- You could also make arguments for Vick, Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub, etc.  

Flacco is a solid QB and one that won't hurt his team too much, but his agent is foolish to say he should be paid top 5 money. 



Since: Dec 24, 2011
Posted on: February 16, 2012 12:18 pm
 

Agent: Flacco is 'in the top five' for QB money

This is a joke right!!!  If you want to go by wins and losses then Tebow deserves top 10 QB money come on are you kidding me.  If any team is dumb enough to give this guy top 5 $$$ they should be fired.  He's an average at best QB and reminds me a lot of Mark Sanchez in which the Jets are considering other options at this point.  I'm sick and tired of these agents trying to stack their pocket books with crazy points in which there client deserves so much.  The future does not look good with these mediocre athletes thinking they deserve so much when you could put just about anyone in there position and be alright especially in Baltimore's situation.


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