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Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:22 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 2:10 am
The RG3 sweepstakes gains momentum after the combine. (Getty Images, US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The NFL Draft is two months off, but this much is certain: some team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback will trade up to the No. 2 spot and take Robert Griffin III, which was confirmed by NFL Insider Pat Kirwan. This is great news for the Rams, who currently own the second pick. While St. Louis has its own franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, they have plenty of other needs.

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On Friday,'s Mike Freeman wrote about Griffin's future, noting that "League sources maintain at least three teams are strongly considering moving up in a blockbuster deal with the Rams to snag Griffin. Those teams, sources say, include Washington, Miami and Seattle. Team officials also say Cleveland has interest in trading up, though not as much as other teams." 

Freeman added that "It will likely take two No. 1 picks (at least) to make that trade, and the reason is some teams view Griffin as similarly talented as Luck or such a close facsimile in terms of potential that the difference isn't a great one."

RG3 had a nice showing at the combine and in Peter King's "Monday Morning Quarterback" column he writes that "The Rams will drive a hard bargain. Cleveland (fourth overall pick), Washington (sixth) and Miami (eighth) will be in the derby to move up; Seattle (12) and a couple of mystery teams could be, too. Add the fact that the money involved (four years, about $22 million) is likely to be less than the money paid to the top (current) free agent Matt Flynn, and the market for Griffin will be hopping."

That last point can't be emphasized enough. Right or wrong, Flynn's getting paid, just like Kevin Kolb did last year. If teams truly are sold on RG3's potential, then the new CBA means that trading up, by itself, isn't cost prohibitive -- although that could change based on the Rams' asking price. (ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted Monday night that the Rams could get a deal similar to what the Chargers got for Eli Manning in 2004: two first-rounders, a third-rounder, and a fifth-rounder.)

A possible monkey wrench for teams not located in DC: the Redskins have a history of overpaying for talent, although they've been much better about it in recent years. Still, we liken owner Daniel Snyder's approach to player personnel to that of a prospective homebuyer who waives the home inspection and offers $40,000 over asking. It's a no-holds barred approach that ultimately doesn't work -- in real estate or for the 'Skins.

But the heart wants what the heart wants. And if Snyder is convinced that RG3 is the answer in Washington, we wouldn't be surprised if he had a roster-building relapse. Other potential suitors would be priced out of the bidding, which is great news for the Rams. Still, even if the 'Skins show restraint in the race for RG3, St. Louis should benefit.

"The whole paradigm has changed in several ways,'' Rams COO Kevin Demoff told King Saturday night. "Griffin could be cheaper than Flynn. The fact that you can get a potential franchise quarterback for what the top picks are paid now makes it easier to justify trading a lot for it.''

And fear not, RG3 sweepstakes losers.'s Pete Prisco tweets an important point:

For teams that might rush to trade up to No. 2 to get Griffin, just remember Matt Barkley and other QBs will be in next year's draft.
2/27/12 5:59 PM

The problem, of course, is that there's no guarantee that those quarterback-needy teams in range of RG3 this offseason will have similar opportunities to draft Barkley a year from now. That risk has to be weighed against the cost of getting Griffin now, as well as exploring other options, like trying to sign Flynn.

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Since: Jun 19, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:55 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

It is interesting that Andrew Luck is the best QB in the draft, but there's no drama, because the Colts will select him .05 seconds after Roger Goodell announces they are on the clock.

All the excitement is on QB#2.  The Colts will have the better QB in the long run, and they don't have to give up multiple draft picks to get him.

Since: Jun 19, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:51 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Wiskur,  I don't think the Chiefs have enough ammo to get to #2... not with at least three teams ahead of them that also want RG3.  The Rams can get a lot from the Redskins and only move down to #6.  If the Browns are willing, they have the best spot because the Rams would only have to move from #2 to #4, and would still get a lot for doing it.  I think even the Dolphins are too far out, but it is possible.  In other words, if you are talking swapping pics for this year's 2nd plus next year's 1st, I believe the Browns, Redskins, Jaguars, Dolphins and Bills will all be willing to do that and the Rams will prefer them in that order.  If you were the Rams' GM, you'd prefer to swap with the Bowns, even if it only means this year's 2nd and next year's 2nd (which would match the draft value chart), than to get this year's 2nd and next year's 1st from the Chiefs, because you are still going to get a big-time player at #4.  Maybe the Browns don't bite.  So, another way to look at it is that no matter what the Chiefs offer, the Redskins will offer at least that much, and the Redskins are sitting at #6.  There's no way that Scott Pioli outbids Dan Snyder... not sitting five spots behind him.  I could see Dan Snyder outbidding Mike Holmgren, though.  My prediction: RG3 will play for the 'Skins in 2012.

Since: Dec 12, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:43 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

INDIANAPOLIS- Hey if you want to build a team put the #1 pick up for auction, lets see which QB teams in the NFL value most. Look how many teams are willing to give up their future for the #2 QB, just imagine what they would give up for #1. You might even get lucky and find out that Peyton can play. 

Since: Dec 8, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 11:37 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

This is my personal plea to the Chiefs to move up to 2nd and take RG3.  Give up this year's first and 2nd, and next years first.  Hell, throw in Dwayne Bowe with it if that'll seal the deal.  Nothing is as valuable to you as a star QB, and I believe that's what RG3 is. The only thing holding us back right now is the QB position, period.  

Matt Cassel is a bottom 5 NFL quarterback.  Most people look at me when I say that and say "but he made the Pro Bowl 2 years ago!"  To that I say, Derek Anderson also made a pro bowl, and he's a consensus terribe player.  Matt Cassel's Pro Bowl season consisted of numerous 1-5 yard stat padding touchdown passes.  Just watch the guy play every week and you'll see what I'm talkin about.  Weak armed, inaccurate, poor-decision-making QB's don't belong in the NFL.

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:22 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

"The whole paradigm has changed in several ways,'' Rams COO Kevin Demoff told King Saturday night. "Griffin could be cheaper than Flynn. The fact that you can get a potential franchise quarterback for what the top picks are paid now makes it easier to justify trading a lot for it.'' 

Griffin is a draft pick..Flynn is not. Griffin will be paid alot of money without having taking a snap. Flynn won't and he has played for a few years. No wonder the Rams are clueless. No really! Look at the statement again and you too will see the madness in the Rams logic.

Jeff Fisher does not know how to build a roster or coach it. Why are the Rams picked to win the SB in 2013. Oh I know....the power of the 10-6 wildcard team in the NFL. The last two SB champs were 10-6 in the regular season. Looks like the Lions will ACTUALLY have a decent chance of winning the SB next year.

Since: Jan 22, 2007
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:13 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Just as in Life...eveything changes...that, so-called "Jimmy Johnson Scale" should be thrown in the trash. It doesn't make any sense any more, with the new CBA in place. Correct me if i'm wrong, but teams can only sign rookies to a max of 4yrs. If i'm right, then teams moving up to trade are mortgaging the farm and not only have to worry that they're pick isn't a bust, but have to worry bout re-signing the kid after 3yrs instead of the kid opting to test free agengy and getting an even bigger pay day from a division rival. Rams asking price is way to risky for any teams future. I say, call their bluff that they'll draft RG3, have a deal in place with minny and pay way less...unless the rams drop their asking price, it's just not worth it. 
Just my 2 cents.

Since: Nov 16, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:07 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

It is really nice to see a franchise that is really concerned with building a team over a few years.   Think the Redskins who change quarterbacks, receivers, or what ever for the flavor of the month.  The Rams are smart to build around a known, if not great, QB, and try to add the pieces they need to form out the team.  This is what the Colts should do in the few remaining years of Peyton-yes, they should pay him and keep him.  Having a known quantity however flawed at QB is essential as you try to gel the rest of the team into a coherent force.

Since: Feb 17, 2012
Posted on: February 29, 2012 9:33 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Somehow, Someway I hope the Bills or Browns find a way to get RG3. Teams like Buffalo or Cleveland need to be relevant again. Both cities have been mainstays in the league, and the fans deserve some excitement. However, a team that gives a guy 60mil after a few meaningless wins (Fitzpatrick) could'nt be smart enough to make such a play. Then again, who wants to play in Buffalo?

Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: February 29, 2012 8:57 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

This post was a prime example of showing why LSD should never be taken on an empty stomach .........

said ...... "Eagles shock the world!!! Asante Samuel, #15 pick in the 1st 2nd and 3rd rounds to the Rams for the #2 pick. Instant heir aparent to MV. MV wins his SB in 2012 and The Eagles recoup thier 1st rd pick in trade for Vick at seasons end. RGIII leads the Birds in back to back SBs in 2013."


Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 8:56 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Saying Warren Moon was the best to play the game is just plain ignorant.
No, saying, "Saying Warren Moon was the best to play the game is just plain ignorant" is just plain ignorant. It's called an opinion, dude, and it's based on Moon being the only player in history ever to be enshrined in both the NFL and CFL Halls of Fame, and his total career numbers having been the greatest ever until Damon Allen broke the record, followed just recently by Brett Favre and Anthony Calvillo, the latter of whom now holds the all-time yards record.
If I want, I can even say that Doug Flutie was the best ever to play the game, and according to an arbitrary measurement that I determine (because, you see, it's my opinion), I will be right. That's the nice thing about subjective terms like "greatest"; nobody who tells you you're wrong can prove it, NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TYPE IN ALL CAPS.

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