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Conference Expansion

Posted on: June 11, 2010 11:15 am
Edited on: June 11, 2010 5:24 pm

This is all that is being talked about it seems. Personally I believe that the best route to take in regards to conferences is to do what occurs in the Premier soccer league in England. What happens is there is the major league, in this case the BCS, which plays out it’s season. At the end of the season the bottom three are relegated to the Football League Championship which in turn promotes its top 2 teams while the 4 teams that finished next compete in a playoff for the final opening.

So for college football, it would work like this: say for arguments sake let’s say that these new power conferences occur. You have four 16 team BCS/Major conferences: The Big 16 (Big 10), Pac 16, ACC, and SEC. With what is left, create four 14-team Minor conferences and pair them with a BCS conference based on geography. At the end of the season, use a similar promotion/relegation system as in English Football, therefore the smaller schools have the opportunity to move up and play with the big boys. This would put so much more emphasis on performing well in the regular season. You could also instigate a playoff this way as well.

That scenario however is all fantasy. Unfortunately this is not just about making the best college football environment. It’s about academics, a bit about basketball, and most of all it is about the C.R.E.A.M. It does seem that Cash Rules Everything Around Me These days. SO here is realistically how I see this mess shaping up.

Big Ten – They have already taken on Nebraska. Jim Delaney is too money hungry for his own good, so I cant see him being able to resist going for Rutgers for the New York market so they will make the 13th team. And to even things out they will pick up Missouri who would jump on an invite. The Big Ten will stop at 14 leaving room for Notre Dame to join in 2015 at the latest. At that juncture they will add a 16th team, most likely, and hopefully, Pitt.

Pac 10 – after adding Colorado to squeeze out any chance of Baylor tagging along, the Pac will add Texas, TAMU, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and OK State for an even 16. OK won’t split up that rivalry with Texas as that is a huge money making regular season game.

SEC – This is a bit more tricky. I think that they could legitimately snatch up ND if given the chance but that isn’t likely. The two most likely candidates for the SEC are Miami and Clemson. That would put the conference at 14. I’m not really sure who the other two schools would be if they wanted to expand to 16. Maybe Louisville? I’m sure they would find some teams chomping at the bit to join.

ACC – If the ACC loses Miami and Clemson then they will go up to a deteriorating Big East. They would snatch up the stragglers that don’t go to the Big Ten. This would make for a rather dull football conference but I would almost guarantee that they would account for over half of the Basketball Championships.

Big XII – It appears is going all over the place so it looks like the remaining teams (Kansas, K-State, Iowa St and Baylor) will more likely than not go to the Mt. West (or the Mt. West will join them). Either way they will campaign about being given an auto BCS bowl bid to their conference champ.

Big East – will be extinct.


Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: June 14, 2010 10:42 am

Conference Expansion

I understand that the Big East is the top Basketball conference in the country, with the ACC right behind it. From what I have heard/read over the weekend, it appears that the SEC apparently won't go for MIami/Florida St. as they already have UF there. They won't grab Clemson due to SC and the same with GTech due to UGA. SO currently I see the ACC sticking around with maybe VTech bolting South. Rutgers is still all but a done deal with the Big Ten, all though I have heard Maryland rumors as well. I know that the conference disbanding probably isn't likely and maybe the above statement is wishful thinking, but to me, a conference that would showcase Duke v. Villanova; GTown v. UNC; Syracuse v. Wake on a yearly basis would be the pinnacle of College basketball. I'm not saying that adding Kansas to the Big East wouldn't be awesome either because that would bring in K-State as well who has seen success on the court, I would just prefer a BEast and ACC merger. Whatever happens, it won't be very predictable but it sure will be interesting.

Since: Jan 11, 2009
Posted on: June 13, 2010 8:08 am

Conference Expansion - Wizard of Oz ScriptVersion

As ridiculous and confusing the last week has been for college athletics, I decided to put it all together in a short re-make of the famous Wizard of Oz.  "Ladies and gentlemen: the story you are about to hear is kind of true. Only the names have not been changed as to not protect the guilty."

Big XII Commisioner Dan Beebe
:  “I have a feeling we are not in Kansas anymore.”

Dodd:  “Jayhawks and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!  Are there any other wild animals left in this conference?  There is a Wildcat but the Buffalo is now extinct.  There is still a cyclone.  The cyclone that started it all for the trip to OZ for Dorothy.  It was not the cyclone that started it this time.  This fantasy trip was caused by a greedy and now  lonely longhorn.  Yep a cow with horns started it all this time.”  

Beevo:  “Moo!  Moo!  Moove!  You are in the way!   I can’t see myself on TV”

Osborne:   “In athletics, stability is something that whenever you see it, you want to grab onto it,”

Pinkel:  “Hah! Put 'em up! Put 'em - up!  Which one of you first? I'll fight you all together, if you want.  I'll fight ya' with one paw tied behind my back! I'll fight ya' standin' on one foot! I'll fight ya' with my eyes closed. Oh, pullin' an axe on me, eh? Sneakin' up on me, eh?” 

Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany:  “I will get you my pretty!  This beautiful girl, quite honestly, wasn't going to be there forever,"  

Surfer Dude (aka  Pac 10):  “Dude, where’s my conference?”

SEC:  “Oklahoma  where the wind comes sweeping down the plain”

Beevo:  “Moo! Moo! Moove!  Sooner or later you know you’re gonna  need me”

Leprechaun:  “Have you guys forgotten about me and my pot of gold?”

Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany:  “I think we will just pause for a moment and take all of this in”

Cyclone:  “I swear, I did not start this.  Why am I being left out of all of the fun?”

Big XII Commisioner Dan Beebe:  "We've had a couple disappointing days with the departure of two valued members, I am actually freaking out because I have no idea where my paycheck will come from now”

Beevo:  “Moo!  Moo! Money!!!  Haven’t we always taken care of you Dan?”

Jayhawk:  “Hey don’t forget about us.  We have a basketball team!!!”

Wildcat:  “Uh, we go where they go.  Don’t leave us out in the cold.  We hear it is beautiful in the Emerald City”

Bear:  “GRRrrrrrr!  Holy crap, what do we do now?”

Jayhawks, Wildcats, Cyclones & Bears:  "It appears that the great and mighty Wizard of Dallas (aka Beebe) is just a farce and a fake figure head for the horns..."

Big XII Conference Members:  “THE END”


Since: Feb 19, 2007
Posted on: June 12, 2010 7:34 pm

Conference Expansion

rutgers would jump at the chance to go o the big 10

Since: Feb 19, 2007
Posted on: June 12, 2010 7:32 pm

Conference Expansion

football makes 15 to 20 time the amount of basketball.

Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:34 pm

Conference Expansion

Hopkins,,I think you watch too much ESPN, the BIg East will not dissolve, and for what I have seen in the past 5 or so years since the ACC raided the Big East, the BIg East has done better then the ACC. SEC should take Florida St, Miami, Ga tech and Clemson, the BIg Ten should take Maryland, that would leave 7 teams in the ACC, the BIg East has 8, everyone assumes Rutgers will join the Big 10 because they ask,,,I don't think they will, and I don't think Syracuse will either, and why should Pitt want to join the Big 10. The Big East should pick up Kansas, K-State, Baylor, and Houston,,,plus the Big East is going to start its on TV network, if we are talking about a 16 team conference we could add Army, Navy, we would have at least half of the country watching BIg East Sports. BUT, if you are right and the Big East folds, it would be a big shame for the highest population area in the US to play second fiddle to the rust belt states(Big 10), and the tobacco road states (ACC)

Since: Feb 1, 2007
Posted on: June 11, 2010 9:14 pm

Conference Expansion

I understand that the Big East isn't necessarily the biggest and baddest football conference in college football, but it aint too shabby!  Big East Basketball is the most dominant conference hands down.  Why is there so much talk about the Big East as a football conference becoming extinct?  Is Football that much more of a draw than basketball financially?  I would think NOT...  I understand there's more seating capacity, but with fewer games IMO they essentially equal out to about the same amount of revenue, but IDK.

Key quote from that article:

The Big East basketball with the addition of Kansas and maybe Memphis would further enhance the best basketball conference in the country.I got it, if several teams bolt for bigger conferences, Big East Football might become extinct,  but seriously...  Would those schools bolt if it was mandated that if they left they would have to leave as a BE basketball member school too?  The Big East has a lot more chips to bargain with IMO than people are giving it credit for and I would love if they picked up KU, KSU, MIZZOU, Memphis, or any others for that matter... If able to.

Since I only follow UL Football and Basketball, I'm just now starting to get into the ins and outs of this expansion.  It's never really mattered to me that much before, but I've grown kind of fond of the Big East and what it's meant to the Louisville program since we left C-USA.

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