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Knicks serious about Amar'e

Posted on: July 2, 2010 4:34 pm
Edited on: July 2, 2010 4:35 pm
Just like that, the winds of fortune change. Three days ago, Amar'e Stoudemire was expected to remain a Phoenix Sun. The Suns had gotten to the negotiating table early, often and hard. But the Suns wanted to go no further than four years for the explosive power forward, while Stoudemire and his agent were holding strong for five years. Finally, the Suns went to the table one last time Thursday night with a concession.

Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic reports that the Suns offered a five year deal, with only the first three years guaranteed , and the last two dependent upon minutes. Stoudemire and his agent said no thanks, and began to pursue other offers.

The Suns? They opted to reach an agreement with Hakim Warrick, effectively ending their ties to Amar'e Stoudemire. An interesting side note: If the Suns do not reach an agreement to sign-and-trade Stoudemire (say, to the Rockets) in the next six days, in order to sign Warrick they'll have to renounce the rights to Stoudemire, meaning they'll be unable to facilitate said sign-and-trade of significant assets (info courtesy of Coro ).

So with Amar'e having left the Valley, who should show up?

Donnie Walsh and the PowerPoint toting Knicks. Yahoo! Sports reports that the Knicks are zeroing in on a 5-year maximum contract deal for Stoudemire. The move would be both surprising and a huge coup for Walsh, D'Antoni and company, who need to land a second max free agent in order to convince LeBron James to follow suit.

Signing Amar'e is no guarantee, just ask the Suns. But Stoudemire had his best seasons under Mike D'Antoni. There was a lot of talk that D'Antoni would never want to deal with Stoudemire's attitude again, but that obviously seems off. And somewhere, lurking in the shadows, is the fact that Joe Johnson, another former D'Antoni player, has not signed his max contract from the Atlanta Hawks yet, despite two sources confirming to's Ken Berger that the contract is fully guaranteed.

All of a sudden, the Knicks could be right back in the thick of this. We'll keep you updated on if Stoudemire becomes a "done deal" in advance of the July 8th signing day.

-Matt Moore


Since: May 24, 2010
Posted on: July 2, 2010 11:30 pm

Knicks serious about Amar'e

That's funny!

I think saw that tool on ESPN yesterday yelling about how Bosh to Miami (via a sign and trade with Beasley going to Toronto) was almost a done deal. 

I guess Chicago is giving Lebron a deadline of Saturday to make up his mind about the Bulls so I wonder how many more rumors there will be this weekend.

Oh, I just read some story on here about how the Knicks are right back in it after being dead in the water yesterday and then on ESPN Michael Smith is saying if Wade leaves Miami will be in a shambles, ah the summer of 2010.

It will be nice when it is all over then they can move on to the next topic....

2011 NBA Finals predictions based on the new signings!

As an afterthought, it seems like we don't really hear the Nets in the running for these front line guys so maybe they get a guy like Lee or Boozer, or no one which would be bad for them.  If not I would hate to see them overspend but would likely have to due to the whole Brroklyn move.

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2010 10:58 pm

Knicks serious about Amar'e

New report by Stephen A. Smith:
Knicks looking to get Amar'e, Joe Johnson and Lebron for average 15.7M.. Possibly D Wade instead of Johnson. Wade looking at being left at the alter in Miami. Bosh wants max, potentially killing a trifecta in Miami with D-Wade and Lebron. Bosh also looking at Toronto doing sign and trade with Houston.
Everything is in flux... D-Wade also liked the Knick's plan, as did Bosh. That kind of kills the nonsense supposedly out of Lebron camp that the Knicks blew it or were less than impressive

Since: Jul 2, 2010
Posted on: July 2, 2010 10:31 pm

Knicks serious about Amar'e

Sure Amare costs lots of money but will become the face of the Knicks.  I'm not big on David Lee.  He is a hard worker but his defense is questionable at best. 

Since: Dec 15, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2010 8:02 pm

Knicks serious about Amar'e

Can we trade Curry and chandler for Agent "0" - Sign Lee and still get 2 of the many agents out there?

Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2010 8:01 pm

Knicks serious about Amar'e

Amare Stoudemire is a downgrade from David Lee.  Stoudemire has not hit the boards since his knee injury.  He plays ole defense.  Last but not least he can thank his high shooting  percentage and over 20 a night to Steve Nash making life easy for Amare.  Amare is Al Harrington but with an inside game.  He'll hit the boards a couple of times a month but for the rest of the time he is looking to get the ball and pad those stats. 

I expect Hakim Warrick to put up great numbers in Phoenix.  Nash will make him a better player so his numbers from a scoring standpoint will look better and Hakim hits the boards and will contend shots.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2010 7:51 pm

Knicks serious about Amar'e

Let me get this said David Lee plays defense?  DAVID LEE plays defense??  Do you even watch Knick games?  Your answer can't possibly be yes for you to say that.  I am a HUGE David Lee fan.  I'm a native new yorker and have one tattoo on my body, just one: A New York Knicks tattoo. 

Sorry my man, but David Lee's defense is horrible and always has been.  He'd tell you that himself.   I agree with everything else you said about Lee and I wish there was a way the Knicks could keep him, get Amare AND have Lebron, but I don't see that happening. 

Lee plays defense...that made me laugh.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2010 7:30 pm

Knicks serious about Amar'e

Huge upgrade in offense with Amare.... even rebounders.... but Lee plays defense. Amare hustles on the offensive side, but lacks seriously defensively. Lee is one of those players that would be great on a team with superstars. He can be the perfect junk man in NY.. and a great team player.

Since: May 24, 2010
Posted on: July 2, 2010 6:51 pm

Amar'e vs. Lee

In the thick of what?

To those who read this article and post or Knicks/Basketball fans in general I ask this.

Is signing Amar'e to a max deal for 5 years )which is about $96 from what I have read), really making you team that much better than if you just paid David Lee $65 million over 5 years (which I hear is what he may command on the open market).

So, is paying Amar'e $30 million more really an upgrade in talent or just an upgrade in a guy with a bigger name profile but not that much of an upgrade statistically speaking?

Obviously this assumes they sign him and Lee goes elsewhere, like Miami or Chicago, etc, but I guess the Knicks could sign both.

Perhaps the Suns and Knicks could just work out a double sign and trade with Amar'e and Lee because if I were a Suns fan and you are selling me on Hakim Warrick as a replacement for Stat (like this author suggests) then consider my season tickets not renewed, ha!

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