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Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

Posted on: July 6, 2010 11:37 am
Edited on: July 6, 2010 11:39 am

Chris Broussard of ESPN is reporting that the Raptors have agreed to a sign-and-trade of Chris Bosh if Bosh agrees to such a deal.

Whoa boy.

So right off the bat, there are conflicting reports . Secondly, again, Bosh has not agreed to such a deal, and Broussard reports that he is cold to the idea of being by the Lake instead prefers Chicago (yes, I know, also by a lake, go with me), New Jersey, or Miami. Miami is out, according to Broussard because they lack the pieces the Raptors would want in a sign-and-trade. Both Chicago and New Jersey have players the Raps would be interested in, but not moreso than what the Cavs have to toss in.

So what's the big deal? Isn't Bosh an unrestricted free agent, able to sign anywhere?

That's true, but the Raptors can let Bosh have his cake and eat it too. He can sign for more money and more years with Toronto, then be sent to where he wants to play, with who he wants to play with.

The tightly held puzzle of free agency is starting to loosen.

If Broussard's on the money, and the Raps can't figure out a deal of high enough value with Chicago or New Jersey, then Bosh will have to decide between the extra money and security, or his own autonomy and a bigger market. It's a tough decision, but consider that once again, LeBron James has the impetus to control the situation here. If LeBron signs with Cleveland outright, he could force Bosh's decision, especially if Wade is still on the fence.

Meanwhile, the report has significant implications for both Miami and Chicago. The time may have come to divert attention from James and to Wade, in an effort to get him off the fence and in their respective uniforms first. With Amar'e in New York, off the market, and Joe Johnson locked up in Atlanta, both Chicago and Miami will have to make significant moves to avoid being left out in the cold if they feel like talks with the Raptors are stagnant. Bosh may be reticent to go to Cleveland but he's now looking at extra money and a direct courtship from LeBron James. That's enough to open some eyes to the beauty of Cleveland.

Things are starting to shake loose. We'll keep you updated on where the next piece falls.


Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 6, 2010 2:03 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

It has been reported than Bosh has not talked to the Raptors for several all this really means nothing.

If the Bulls can move Noah for Bosh, they would need a center in return cuz bosh doesnt want to play center....same goes with Cleveland...he doesnt want to go to Cleveland for 1 and 2 he doesn't want to play center.

Being a Bulls fan I hope management doesnt make anyone untradeable...last time that was the case they wouldn't move a combo of Hinrich Gordon and Deng because they were to valuable...(For Kobe)'d that work out....

In the end my guess is Bosh is the only of the big 3 to move and only one of 3-4 top 3 tier players to move....(boozer maybe, lee maybe, and thats probably about it)  

I'd rather have no one on the Bulls than be the Hawks and sign Johnson to a Max 6 year deal...OUCH!

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 6, 2010 1:59 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

ok, i feel i need to point out a few things here for you sir.  First of all, no one said that chicago was better than Cleveland during the playoffs because the Cavs had LEBRON on their team lol.  When looking at a Ceveland squad "without 'Bron" and the Chicago squad side by side, Chicago is the superior team by far.  Your comparison of Varejao to Noah is astonishing, did you actually watch Noah play last year??? In the playoffs alone last year, Varejao averaged 6 pts and 6 rebounds. Noah Averaged 15 points and 13 rebounds! postseason production is truly what matters, but regular season number Noah wins as well.  If you look at the middle-to second half of last year, Noah was putting up games like (pts-rbds) 21-15, 18-19, 17-10, 16-12, 26-9, 14-12, that began to be his "normal" type of stat line.  WIth Shaq definetely leaving, you have literally NO one on Cleveland except decent role players.  If Jamison can snap into his old Washington Wizards form, that could be sweet for the Cavs.  Jamison was garbage for cleveland in his time spent there last year though.  That leaves you with guys like parker, V-jao, west, williams, hickson, moon, powe, ilgauskus... no one is interested in ANY of these players except maybe Mo Williams.

Now on the Chicago side, you have guys like Derrick Rose (all star point gaurd), Luol Deng (18pts, 7rbd  averaged in 2010), Noah (see above) Taj Gibson (9pts, 7 rebs as a NBA rookie first team choice) these are quality YOUNG players that are highly valued and could mesh well with a superstar like Lebron, or Dwade.  Do your research before you blurt things out on message boards next time.

Since: May 24, 2007
Posted on: July 6, 2010 1:22 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

You can't really remove one team's superstar and compare it to another team's roster with a superstar... of course the Bulls with rose would be better than the Cavs without LeBron. That's... just kinda... er.  yeah, anyway.
Anyway, the point is this: If you remove the two superstars (James & Rose), the Cavs probably had a better team last year.  The difference is that the Bulls can add more than just LeBron this year, but the Cavs may not be able to.
Of course, if the Cavs really could pick up Bosh this summer, they would pull off a free agent coup, because that would mean they also still have LeBron.  If they ended the summer with both those players, it would be a remarkable turn of events... and one I hope they manage, if only to shut up all the doomsaying in Cleveland and trash-talking from other fanbases.

Since: May 17, 2007
Posted on: July 6, 2010 1:20 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

I was under the impression that BC wanted a trade exception back so that he could get the guy he wants.  Now people are talking as if he wants pieces that aren't any better than the kids he has now.

On top of that people keep talking about these centers getting traded to the Raptors.  They don't want a Center unless some other team has a deal in place for him.  The Raptors just had a presser yesterday for the kids just drafted (a PF and a C)  BC said that they will both get playing time this year to help them develop.  Then they just resigned Johnson at PF (23) and have Bargnani under contract for a while at center.  So when would Noah or Verajoa play for this team.  It's believed what they really want is a SF especially if they are moving Turkoglu and maybe a PG if they are trading one of the two headed monsters.

Since: Jan 23, 2007
Posted on: July 6, 2010 1:17 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

Of course the Bulls roster wasn't better than the Cavs (with LeBron), but if you took LeBron off the Cavs they would have been swept by the Bulls in the first round.  And Noah is a lot better than the human FLOP (Varejeo). Varejeo 8.6 ppg, 7.6 reb, 0.9 blk   1.1 ast, 66% FT
Noah 10.7 ppg, 11.0 reb, 1.6 blk, 2.1 ast, 74% FT and he is three years younger.  You trade Deng for Bosh 

Since: Mar 19, 2007
Posted on: July 6, 2010 1:04 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

Are the Bulls really ready to make the same mistake? Are they really willing to give up on James and Bosh just to keep Noah? TRADE HIM! Noah is a good role player whose game deserves the mid-level exception, but will end up getting $10 million+ in a few years. Moreso, don't repeat the same mistake from 2007. We could have acquired Kobe Bryant for a combination of Ben Wallace/Ben Gordon/Luol Deng, but the Bulls in their infinite wisdom had to hold onto Luol. Don't make the same mistake, go with the players that already accomplished something, not players that have "potential".

Since: Apr 23, 2007
Posted on: July 6, 2010 1:02 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

Without LeBron, the Cavs win 30 games tops last year. Bulls roster is better because the Cavs don't have DRose. however, I agree that if it takes Noah to get Bosh, do that (Though Noah is better and younger than Varaejo). I remember a few years ago when some of my fellow idiot Bulls-fans didn't want to include Luol Deng or Ty Thomas in a prospective trade for Kobe. Yep. 

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: July 6, 2010 12:54 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

I'm not sure you understand the "Bulls roster is better than the Cavs roster" debate correctly. Nobody will argue that the Cavs were better than the Bulls last year.  The comaprison, however, is not the 09-10 Cavs to the 09-10 Bulls.  The comparison is the the returning roster of the 09-10 Cavs minus Lebron to the returning roster of the 09-10 Bulls.  When those are compared, the Bulls come out on top.  Therefore, if Lebron is looking to play for the team most likely to win a 'ship, he should sign with the Bulls. 

Since: Nov 28, 2008
Posted on: July 6, 2010 12:46 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

Noah is the same playe as Varejao? You must get drunk before you watch games.

Since: Jun 5, 2007
Posted on: July 6, 2010 12:38 pm

Report: Cavs have trade for Bosh in place

Its funny how in the playoffs and regular season no one ever said the Bulls roster was better than the Cavs.  All of a sudden it is?  And after the Cavs beat them?  Noah is the same player as Varejeo.  Bulls have Rose and thats about it.  If you can trade Noah to get Bosh, you should want to do that in a heartbeat.  He's not that good.  He hustles and can rebound and talk trash, that's it.

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