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Shootaround 8.5.10: Candy kids

Posted on: August 5, 2010 7:53 am
Edited on: August 5, 2010 10:54 am
Posted by Matt Moore

The Pacers continue to search for a point guard option . There comes a point where you just have to recognize you can't go forward without a positional upgrade and you have to commit the resources necessary to acquire one. The Pacers have hit that point, but now there aren't really many options. However, if Lance Stephenson can just show a baseline of point play like he did in Summer League, he could be an option. I never would have thought that a reasonable match, but Stephenson looked like a better combo point than several attempted hybrids have.

Consider this. With Shaq signing not only with Boston, but in Boston for a two-year deal , the odds are high that his last NBA game will be as a Celtic. Try and wrap your brain around that.

Almost everyone agrees that Mark Cuban, for all his antics, is a great owner. But after Cuban lost the bid for the Texas Rangers last night, one reporter thinks his heart wasn't in it to begin with, and has some harsh words . It's hard to imagine Cuban doing the bidding of anyone, and the fact is that Cuban has been one of the best stories in sports ownership over the past decade. Committed not only to winning, but not throwing out money to ridiculous personnel like New York.

The Suns signed Matt Janning who looked good in Vegas Summer League . This brings their total number of goofy looking white point guards to three.

Lamar Odom and Khloe Kardashian want to have children . Tremble for your world, ye children of men.

Bulls blog Bulls by the Horns points out that Joakim Noah has improved his jumper . That's a fairly siginificant step for a player just to become decent and another sign that Noah is still even better than we think he is, and at this point we think he's pretty good.

In a lot of ways, Ben Wallace is the anti-Shaq. Doesn't say much. Does his job. Re-signs with the team that he's loyal to . You know, those kind of things.

Shannon Brown thinks playing time, more money, and a system that fits his skills are all fairly useless things . Why be a prince in an upcoming neighborhood with tons of potential when you can be a lapdog in Bevery Hills? Wanting to stay where you had success is nice, as is the loyalty factor, if that really is part of it. But Brown is poorly suited for the triangle and has more value elsewhere than he does in LA, walking the ball up as a third stringer and sitting in a corner waiting for a three. He's a slasher, a driver, a creator. But hey, his career. And the rings are always nice.

Bill Walton is working with Roy Hibbert, which can only lead to good things . My question? Where's Rik Smits?!

Sharks + Thunder= Thundersharks .


Since: Jun 11, 2009
Posted on: August 5, 2010 11:02 pm

Shootaround 8.5.10: Candy kids

Let it go, Ben.  You probably need training wheels to get around the court.  The salary he signed for can't even pay his pool boy.  He will go into the 'Fro Hall of Fame asw a Bull, I'm guessing.  As a Detroit fan, there is no loyalty in Ben no mo'.  See Ya.

Since: Nov 4, 2008
Posted on: August 5, 2010 9:10 pm

Shootaround 8.5.10: Candy kids

did the author really just praise how loyal ben wallace was to detroit and then in the VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH bashes shannon brown for being loyal to LA?  does he even read over his own posts?

Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: August 5, 2010 6:44 pm

Shootaround 8.5.10: Candy kids

Big Ben resigns with the team that he's loyal to?  Put 60 million on the table again and see if you can still say that.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: August 5, 2010 4:21 pm

Shootaround 8.5.10: Candy kids

Okay, so I know they are not the same caliber of player, but Lebron James gets reamed for not showing loyalty to Cleveland by some and praised for taking less money to be part of the team in Miami by others but you rip Shannon Brown for taking less money, on a short term contract, than he could have gotten elsewhere to remain part of a championship team rather than make it all about him and being a starter or playing time?  Why the difference...I Brown is happy in LA and being in a supporting role for now and the back to back champion Lakers who are you to criticize?  Why is it okay for some players to chase championships by switching teams but not for Brown to chase another title by staying in LA?  Look at how well leaving LA worked out for Trevor Ariza.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: August 5, 2010 4:07 pm

Shootaround 8.5.10: Candy kids

I will refrain from calling the author "stupid", but this is definitely revisionist history. He must dislike Shaq (I like Shaq, but he has given his critics, detractors and haters enough amunition that I don't bother to defend him), because your statement about Wallace (small in the article, but referenced on the cbssports home page) is nonsense. "Ben Wallace" is "loyal" to Detroit? I don't even think Wallace would argue that, considering that he was the domino that started the collapse of what would have to be considered the Piston Dynasty. He was a hardworking bum (in the kindest sense of the word) before he got to Detroit. When asked to ONLY play defense in Detroit, he was effective and grew a cult following, enjoying more popularity than any journeyman in recent memory. When his "loyalty" was tested by the free agent market, and Wallace (wisely forsaked his loyalty, and) moved on to a another city. Where did he go? He took his game to the Piston's arch-rivals - the Chicago Bulls. Over the course of the next few years, the league discovered that paying $14 million per season for a guy who does not average in double figures is a BAD investment, and the market for Ben shrunk (to be kind). Finally, after sitting on the bench for a couple of years running out of options, he found his way back to Detroit. There, he found a team in transition (for coaches and players) in a city that struggling (to be kind)financially. In the struggling East, the Pistons are a non-competitive team that have been rumored to be at least considering rellocation. The NBA wants them to stay in Detroit (for good reason), but the franchise is not going to last long without something or someone to attract fans.

So, yes, I am happy that Ben is still in Detroit - it is the appropriate place for him to end his career. But there is not a big market out there for his services, and Detroit is looking for anything to put bodies in seats. It was a perfect match, but it is not a testiment to his loyalty to Detroit (nor really theirs to him) - its a good economic fit for both (and there is nothing wrong with that). Give him credit as a humanitarian or a good guy if you will, but his "loyalty" is not on display here - and to be fair, has only switched franchises (Wash, Orl, DET, CLV, CHI, and back to DET) just as many times as Shaq (Orl, LA, MIA, PHX, CLV, BOS).

So let easy up on the cannonization of Saint Ben. 

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