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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

Posted on: September 1, 2010 8:34 am
Edited on: September 1, 2010 9:30 pm
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Posted by Matt Moore

Fall is here, hear the yell, back to school, ring the bell ... The NBA season is right around the corner, and NBA training camp starts in just a few short weeks. To get you ready for the NBA season, we've put together 25 pop quizzes. Pencils ready? We continue our Pop Quizzes with this question..

Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

The Knicks are brand new. Fresh out the oven, piping hot, clean waxed, new car smell, brand spankin' new. And that's certainly a good thing as all but the last remnants of the epic failboat that was built there over the last decade have been cleansed and a new team stand in its place, faster, younger, and better built to contend. The Knicks have a bonafide star in Amar'e Stoudemire, a solid point guard in Raymond Felton, a tantalizing wing in Danilo Gallinari, a workhorse in Ronny Turiaf, a floor-spreader in Kelenna Azubuike, and whatever you would call Anthony Randolph.

The questions are, first, is this team good enough to make the playoffs, and two, is there room in the playoffs for them? Let's work backwards.

If we're looking at potential playoff teams, the traditional approach is to take last year's crew, throw out anyone that isn't going to make the cut, then add the new entrants based on likelihood. Well, I think we can go ahead and toss the Cavs out of the "definite" category and into the "maybe" pack down there with the Knicks. Celtics are a lock, Magic are a lock, the Hawks are a near-lock with only a chemistry-based nuclear meltdown as the variable in question. The Bulls are a lock with their additions in place. It's hard to say that the Bucks will take a step back, we'll put them in "near-lock" with the Hawks. The Bobcats haven't lost anyone beside Felton outside of Tyson Chandler, who rarely played for them anyway due to injury. Felton's loss is significant, but counting out Larry Brown before the season gets started is something that's gone on a lot the last few years and worked out badly each time. And you know, I think Miami just might be a lock too, you know, if things go well and all.

So that leaves only one open playoff spot with a bunch of middle teams vying for the chance to be swept off the planet. Still, making the playoffs is a big deal. And there's an opportunity in play.

The second question is if the Knicks will be good enough. From that standpoint, there are positive, but liquid, signs. The Knicks won 29 games last season, leaving them 11 out of the playoffs. Think about that. A team with Chris Duhon, Al Harrington, and Wilson Chandler as the big contributors won 29 games. You can put almost any lineup on the floor in the NBA regular season and win close to 20 games. That's what made the Nets so remarkable.

Amar'e Stoudemire should make a huge difference. Surrounding a single star player with even semi-competent role players is usually enough for 20-25 wins. Don't believe me? The Clippers made the playoffs with Elton Brand, flanked by Sam Cassell and Cuttino Mobley. Or, just take a look at the Miami Heat over the past two seasons. From there, you're looking at 17-22 wins the rest of the new Knicks are going to have to generate.

This team is much better developed to run Mike D'Antoni's system, with Azubuike and Gallinari spreading the floor from the perimeter, Randolph running the floor and filling gaps, Felton running the pick and roll, and Amar'e finishing with a flourish. Throw in Chandler, who in a backup role is much more appealing, Ronny Turiaf as a capable rebounding center, and Toney Douglas as a combo guard with athleticism. That's a solid D'Antoni built team. The floor for this team is likely still a six game improvement over last season, but its ceiling is probably high enough to make the seventh seed.

There are still questions galore about this team. Can they defend, at all? Can they rebound? Will they stay healthy enough? Can Amar'e really thrive without Steve Nash? Is Felton enough of an upgrade at point to have the system function? What role will Eddy Curry play? Okay, I'm kidding on that last one. No one asks that. But there are doubts as to whether the Knicks will be anything more than the best lottery team next season. But taking a look over the East, it's hard to say they won't be right there for the playoffs if things go according to plan.
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CAHALL15
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Posted on: September 2, 2010 2:47 am
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

There is a big difference here, jharr. Amar'e got 23 from playing with Steve Nash. I doubt he gets 23 with Felton and I doubt Felton and Amar'e form one of the greatest pick n roll combos. To get 23, Amar'e has to take more shot attempts than he did last year.


Boyce123
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Posted on: September 2, 2010 1:20 am
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

@dititaniumblade

Unless you live in space, you should know they lost their best player in Chris Bosh with nothing immediate in return.


Boyce123
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Posted on: September 2, 2010 1:18 am
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

I can't look at this roster which has included a few playoff experienced players in Felton and Amar'e, with some up and coming talent and think that they couldn't make the 8th seed. I think the Knicks are a lock at 7th with a first round playoff against the Celtics who will rest their older stars in preparation for an Eastern Conference final against the heat.

They are the joke of the league, but with this coach and all of these new additions, you can't argue that they didn't improve.... a lot.


DiTitaniumBlade
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Posted on: September 2, 2010 12:34 am
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

Well, let's do the process of elimination. Cavaliers are no doubt out of the question. Who are the automatics? Heats, Celtics, and Magics. Who are strong enough to make it in? Bulls, Bucks, and Hawks. That leads to two available seats there. There's a good chance that Knicks will appear to the playoff, but as either a number seven or number eight seed, competing with the Bobcats. With talented players now in their roster, it is safe to say that they will make it in the playoff this coming season.

Now, based from last year results, can someone elaborate with me why the Raptors are out of the question? They were one win away from tying with the Bulls for the 8th seed spot, but they do not seem to be a candidate for a postseason. Why? (I haven't been following the NBA so I am curious about this).



wynterman91
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Posted on: September 1, 2010 10:07 pm
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

I think everyone is forgetting is that Felton has been hampered by slow paced systems since he came to the NBA. Felton is a good passer and has developed a consistent three point shot. He always has been a good defender and has decent finishing ability. Compared to Chris Duhon, Sergio Rodriguez, and Toney Douglas who is more of scoring guard, Felton is a big upgrade as a floor general.


Jim F13
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Posted on: September 1, 2010 9:30 pm
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

Will they make it? No not likely. There are other mid range teams who could easily slip in ahead of them. The east has upgraded but only with select teams. Many marginal teams that could win as many as the knicks.


jharr291
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Posted on: September 1, 2010 8:53 pm
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

Knicks go .5000.  In the East this may be good enough for the 7 or 8 seed.  Felton will do great.  Not sure if losing David Lee's 19 and 10 every night and gaining Amare's 23 and 9 equals a lot more wins.  This team will live and die by Felton's play.


The Hoopster
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Posted on: September 1, 2010 7:11 pm
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

Just barely  - They will miss Lee big time. I like who they got rid of othewise - the new guys, = we'll have to wait and see


Urbansoldier
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Since: Dec 15, 2007
Posted on: September 1, 2010 6:20 pm
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

The Knicks will no doubtably be much better then they were in previous seasons. The only problem I have with this group is most of these players were no more than role players on their other teams and I just wonder if they will mesh well enough to play consistent roles on this team to change the losing ways of the past.


KingGiantFan
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Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: September 1, 2010 10:16 am
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Will the Knicks make the playoffs?

Look at the numbers put up by Duhon...


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