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Grizzlies commit franchise suicide, extend Conley

Posted on: November 2, 2010 2:46 am
Edited on: November 2, 2010 9:41 am
Grizzlies point guard granted 5-year, $45-million extension for mediocrity, continued inconsistency.Posted by Matt Moore

In the long history of terrible moves by the Memphis Grizzlies, mark my words, this one will reign supreme.

Worse than drafting Hasheem Thabeet.

Worse than trading Pau Gasol for Marc Gasol, Kwame Brown, and cash.

Worse than re-signing Rudy Gay for $80 million.

This, this right here, is not just the worst move in the history of the Grizzlies, but it is the shining golden cap on the mountain of terrible moves made by NBA owners over the past 2 years. It is this, exact move, that nullifies any argument the owners can possibly make that they spend their money responsibly inside the current CBA. It is this contract that overshadows Joe Johnson's contract, Amir Johnson's contract, Darko Milicic's contract as the single worst contract handed out in 2010.

ESPN's Chris Broussard and the Memphis Commercial-Appeal reports that the Memphis Grizzlies have agreed to a 5-year, $40-million-plus extension for Mike Conley.

There is really nothing more to say. But here's something anyway.

Mike Conley is the worst starting point guard in the NBA. That's including Derek Fisher, who is at this point both a defensive signpost and a superior point guard. People often wonder why it is I consider this to be so. The reasons are numerous. It's not that Mike Conley is not a good basketball player. He is. He's a career 44% shooter, and 38% from the arc, which isn't bad at all. As a spot-up back-up combo guard, he wouldn't be bad at all. Mike Conley is not a bad NBA player. But there are three things this contract supposes that he is not. He is not a starting caliber point guard. He is not worth $45 million dollars over 5 years. And he is not worth the longterm damage this contract does to the Memphis Grizzlies franchise.

Conley's biggest problems involve things which are extremely hard to identify in the box score. His turnover margin is acceptable, if not stellar. He was 24th in the league last year in assist rate among point guards who played 25 minutes or more. That's not good, at all, but it's not horrific. But if you watched as many Grizzlies games as I have, you'd know certain things. Like, for instance, his dribble probe ability.

Every point guard in the National Basketball Association is able to probe the defense. It involves stepping inside the arc, towards defenders, and maintaining your dribble to see how the defense reacts to penetration. It allows the point guard to evaluate spacing and set up the correct set of decisions. Mike Conley cannot. He will routinely turn his back to a post maneuver, just to avoid losing the ball. This is because he has tremendous difficulty in splitting defenders. This is just one example. He struggles in the pick and roll according to Synergy Sports, averaging just a .79 PPP in the pick and roll and shooting 44% which is a great Field Goal %, but not in pick and roll. Defensively? It's even worse.

Conley surrenders a .96 PPP in Isolation, giving up free throws over 16% of the time. In pick and roll, a .82. It's not horrific. It's just miserably average-to-subpar. This at the most important position on the floor. Bear in mind that Conley plays in a high-octane, weapon-loaded offense that allows him to get out in transition and get easy buckets. Yet he turned the ball over in transition 16.7% of the time.

Advanced stats don't look much better. Conley has never posted a +15 PER, the benchmark of an average player in the league. Conley is only 23, but it would require a monumental improvement in several categories for him to reach the point of actually deserving this kind of contract.

As a comparison? Rajon Rondo makes only $10 million more for his extension than Mike Conley. Rajon Rondo. The guy that just dropped 24 assists in one game for a title contender. That guy makes $2 million more per year, that's it.

But the real problem with this contract?

The damage it does to the future.

Alongside Conley, the Grizzlies needed to extend Marc Gasol, the only real asset they acquired in the Pau Gasol trade. Marc Gasol is arguably the most important player on the team. He is an excellent passer out of both the high and low post. He has a reliable mid-range jumper, is tremendous on the offensive glass, and works his face off on the defensive end. He shows hard and recovers on the pick and roll, maintains low-post position and is active, and continually makes hustle plays. This in a league that is painfully thin on centers. And the Grizzlies have just opened the door for Gasol to walk away in restricted free agency. Zach Randolph has to be re-signed after his contract expires this year, and given the affection the Grizzlies organization has shown Randolph, there's no sign they won't overpay for Z-Bo as well. Which would mean making room for Marc Gasol would be incredibly difficult.

Then next season, you have O.J. Mayo in a similar boat. Looking for an extension. But after the owners' hardline CBA renegotiations get through, how much cap space will they have left? Plus they'll have Hasheem Thabeet coming up soon and a need to justify their drafting of him by waiting for him to develop over the next decade.

So what you're looking at with this extension is the rare combination of a move that's bad in and of itself, and mortgages your ability to win later by most likely expending two of your three best players. You now have $120 million committed to Rudy Gay and Mike Conley over the next six years. That's bad enough, but you'll most likely be losing better players in order to form around that core. It damages you in the short term. This is a player who you have tried to improve upon with Jamal Tinsley, moving O.J. Mayo to point, Greivis Vasquez, Allen Iverson, and I'm pretty sure a clone of John Stockton. But this is the player you have chosen to give $40 million-plus to.

The owners have held the high ground in negotiations regarding the CBA. Even with moves like Darko, Johnson, and the stellar history of Isiah Thomas, the ownership has been able to justify the moves they've made. But this is more damaging than others. This is a clearly B-Level player getting close to $9 million a year.

The Commercial-Appeal reports the decision was largely made upon Conley's strong start to this season. Three games. In a contract year. Featuring a game against the Minnesota Timberwolves. This, apparently, is what sets the market in Memphis.

When Ken Berger reported last month that the NBA was considering contraction as a possible solution to its economic woes, I spoke out passionately against it. Small-market fans shouldn't be punished and the overall health of the league nationwide shouldn't be harmed in an attempt by larger market teams to make life easier on them. But after this deal, the question must be raised. Would the Grizzlies be better off if they were simply erased from existence? Is a fan base better off existing in a constant and continual cycle of disappointment and failure, or simply not existing at all?

Mike Conley made $45 million without a single impressive season. And the bizarre, cruel, laughable reign of Michael Heisley continues.


Since: Nov 2, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2010 12:41 pm

There is a great deal in this blog...

...that I could take the time to thoughtfully dismantle, piece by piece, but I fear I'd be wasting my time, because this guy like most in sports media appears to have NO MIND OF HIS OWN.  You, sir, are a brainless robot.  You are an ignorant tool.  How many Grizzlies games have you ever actually watched?  Another one of those dumbasses that forms their opinions based souly off of box scores and the equally ignorant opinions of other blow hard pundits.  Here's some advice.  IF you have no interest in being objective with your thoughts, please, kindly, f*** off you bandwagoning s***, and go back to sucking Kobe & Lebron off.  You too Shama77.  Robots unite! 

Since: May 18, 2009
Posted on: November 2, 2010 12:08 pm

Grizzlies commit franchise suicide, extend Conley

why o why???

Since: Apr 7, 2008
Posted on: November 2, 2010 12:05 pm

Grizzlies commit franchise suicide, extend Conley

At one time I thought Conley was some garbage.  But I watched get better last season including putting on a show against Orlando and Jameer Nelson as well as the Cavs last season.   Conley&nbs
p;should just be beginning his rookie season right now and he is finally developing into his body.  His supreme handle, floater, and ability to create for teammates have all improved over the past season. This season we're out the gate and Conley is setting up Mayo and Gay better than ever before.   I believe believe that Conley is ready to run the engine here in Memphis. The big thing Spurs coach Gregg Poppovich preaches in success in continuity.  Conley, Mayo, Gay, Z-Bo, and Gasol are among the best starting 5's in the league. 

I am ready to say that I was wrong and I believe Conley is ready to lead the Grizzlies due to the fact he is now using his speed and quickness to create havoc especially defensively where he leads the league in steals right now.  Respect Rudy Gay, respect Marc Gasol, repsect O.J. Mayo, and respect Mike Conley.  We plan on letting Thabeet go in a trade and admitting the mistake.  It hurts to watch Tyreke "Reke" Havoc but Mike Conley is no pushover anymore.  sit back watch the season know your role and shut your mouth!!!!

Besides trading Pau for Marc was good for us considering in 3 season Marc has developed into a top 5 center and he makes just 3 million a year. Talk about a bargain.

Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2010 11:47 am

Grizzlies commit franchise suicide, extend Conley

Maybe the article is harsh, but even the most optimistic of Grizzlies and Conley fans have to question this move.  The quote below says it all:

This is a player who you have tried to improve upon with Jamal Tinsley, moving O.J. Mayo to point, , Allen Iverson, and I'm pretty sure a clone of John Stockton. But this is the player you have chosen to give $40 million-plus to.

Since: Jan 30, 2009
Posted on: November 2, 2010 10:15 am

Grizzlies commit franchise suicide, extend Conley

Are you kidding me? Could you be more blind? I bet you've never even watched a Grizzlies game. I don't think you understand the upside to Mike Conley. He's already developed into a top-12 point guard in the NBA. He is NO WHERE NEAR the worst point guard in the NBA. This could possibly be the worst article I have ever read. For starters, trading Pau "The Pussy" Gasol for Marc Gasol and cash was a great deal. Marc Gasol is slowly turning into one of the better centers in the NBA, and Memphis doesn't even remotely need Pau (Zach Randolph and Darrell Arthur). Your comparisons are just terrible. Signing Rudy Gay to an $80 million contract may have been a LITTLE too much money, but still nothing too ridiculous. Mike Conley has average 15 ppg and 6 apg since he got his starting job when Marc Iavironi was fired. This year he's averaging a nasty 4 spg, 8.3 Apg, and a nice 15 ppg to go along with it. This article needs to be burned and you need to be fired.

Since: Nov 1, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2010 9:03 am

Grizzlies commit franchise suicide, extend Conley

Good i guess???

Since: Aug 20, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2010 8:44 am

Grizzlies commit franchise suicide, extend Conley

Contraction needs to occur......starting with the Memphis Grizzlies.

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