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Josh Smith could be moved? What?

Posted on: November 2, 2010 11:41 am
 Posted by Royce Young

With time running out, the Atlanta Hawks added some more zeroes to their payroll but signing Al Horford to a five-year, $60 million extension. That's the Hawks second big contract to hand out in the past few months with the first being Joe Johnson's massive $120 million deal.

Atlanta has its core all put together and the young team is starting to come of age. Problem is, there might not be enough to go around.

Chad Ford of pointed out that with Johnson's big deal plus Horford's new contract, keeping those two plus Josh Smith and Marvin Williams won't be easy. In fact, it might be impossible without busting the luxury tax. If the current roster stays the way it is, Jamal Crawford is most definitely not getting re-inked to any new deal soon.

So could general manager Rick Sund be forced to move a core piece? Potentially, yes.

Ford said that Sund "flirted" with trading Smith last summer before changing his mind. He's not available now, but a good number of GMs feel he mght be for the taking at the trade deadline. Smith makes over $12.5 million in 2011-12.

The Hawks would prefer to move Williams who hasn't lived up to his draft number. Williams has struggled to find a place on the team and has shifted roles a number of times. And at $8 million per year, his contract could be nice to unload. However, Williams was reportedly shopped this summer and didn't get many bites.

Ford says the Knicks, Nets, Pistons and Suns have all shown interest in Smith in the past and could be contenders for his services at the February deadline. But would Atlanta be willing to move him if they're in the middle of the Eastern hunt? Surprisingly, yes.

Atlanta probably feels like its set to lose one of its key pieces, because of the versatility on the roster. Smith is obviously a top tier player and not someone easily replaced, but because of Smith, Horford has been playing out of position the past few years. That of course means Atlanta would need to find a new big man, but say Smith was dealt to Phoenix where he'd be a beautiful fit with Steve Nash. The Hawks could get back Robin Lopez and another player and likely be pretty happy with that.

It seems awfully bold of the Hawks to potentially move Smith, one of the league's most talented, athletic and versatile players. But in this NBA landscape where money is everything, sometimes, hands are forced. Horford got paid, Johnson got paid and as a result, the Hawks might have to trim some off the roster. It would be a shame to see and it's still a long way from happening.

Since: Nov 26, 2008
Posted on: November 4, 2010 8:18 am

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

This is just a CBS writer stirring the pot, it doesn't even mention Rip for Smith.  It mentions how the Pistons would be interested in a big man, either Smith or Kaman and it focuses more on Prince's expiring deal than Hamilton.  If you can't find writers who can't do any better than making up stories it's time to find new ones. . .

Since: Sep 9, 2009
Posted on: November 2, 2010 7:43 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

Stuckey isnt a cornerstone of anything. Do you even watch Pistons games. The Pistons should have bit when the celtics offered rondo and ray allen for prince, hamilton and stuckey.

Since: Apr 5, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2010 7:31 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

Well if the Pistons were to trade for Josh Smith the Hawks would likely want Tayshaun Prince in the deal as they are looking to shed pay roll and Prince's 11-12 million dollar contract is coming off the books this offseason.

It would likely take another piece or two like Austin Daye and/or Terrico White.

Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2010 6:52 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

Nothing the matter with spending money on Boozer.  He is a stud.  Just not healthy right now but as long as he is ready for helping the team make a push to the playoffs and getting into the playoffs all is well.  The big price tags on Kyle Korver and Ron Brewer is the money that can be used to get Smith.  If the Hawks do let Smith go it will be a monumental loss.  The Hawks should have let Joe Johnson go.  He is not worth $20 million a year let alone $10 million a year for a one dimensional player.  Smith is offense and defense.  He might not have the greatest shot in the world but he can run the floor for easy baskets and also get offensive put backs. 

Since: Oct 27, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2010 5:15 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

Smith to the Suns would be a Pau Gasol trade type coup for them. He would instantly provide the inside presence they need and a pick and roll partner for Nash. Personally I don't think there's a chance in hell they deal him this early, nor would Lopez benefit the Hawks in any way with Horford playing in the middle. 

Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: November 2, 2010 4:20 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

The only way I deal Josh Smith is if I'm getting something pretty valuable in return.  I don't think the Hawks would have signed Joe Johnson and Al Horford to these extensions if it meant that they HAD to trade Smooth later on this year or next summer.  If that was the case we would have just waited and matched Horford's deal and then dealt Smith. 

On that note, I wouldn't mind dealing Josh but only for the right package of players.  He is a very good player and a guy who the Hawks desperately need on the defensive end.  He may take bad shots occasionally and he may not have the best handles in the world but he's worked on that these last couple of years and I like where this team is headed (save the massive contract to Joe that nonetheless had to be done for us to be a contender this year).

If we trade him to Phoenix the only deal I like is a swap of Marvin Williams and Josh for Robin Lopez, Hedo Turkoglu, and Hakim Warrick.  That gives us a viable Center to let Horford move to PF, it gives us a better shooter and a better ball handler to replace Marvin and also gives us mor depth off the bench with Warrick.

That's the kind of trade I'm talking about with Smith.  You have to get value for him and right now I don't think teams will offer enough value right now.  Maybe next summer when Phoenix is trying to unload Turkoglu's contract but not right now.

Plus the Hawks are a better team this year than last year and I don't care what the analysts say.  They got better and I think that they are the only team in the East that can matchup with the Heat athletically.

Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: November 2, 2010 3:34 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

 's massive $120 million deal.

An anchor around the franchise's neck that will eventually sink the ship. Bosh, Lebron, Wade, Amare don't make near that. Talk about overpaid.

Since: May 24, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2010 3:29 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

Atlanta isn't in the immediate need of a point guard with mike bibby and jamal crawford - Yikes!!!

As a Pistons fan you know that Stuckey is an immediate upgrade over these two jokers and I think they would take that deal if offered but over the summer and in the offseason I thought he was battling Jeff Teague for the starting spot, that's what I read anyway.

Regardless, Smith with Nash would be nice but Nash doesn't have many years left I imagine so at some point, decent big men are hard to come by so for Atlanta getting the other Lopez and a pick plus Warrick or another young guy may work out for both.

Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: November 2, 2010 1:51 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

This Pistons will not trade Stuckey. He is becoming a cornerstone for the franchise and by tradeing him for Smith Joe Dummars would be throwing away a young tallented player. Plus Atlanta isn't in the immediate need of a point guard with mike bibby and jamal crawford. If the Pistons make a play for Smith they will look to trade alot of other players on their roster before they even think about stuckey. Joe D said it himself hes not going to make a trade just for the sake of makeing a trade and stucky for smith would be just for the sake of making the trade. Smith would be a nice addition but not worth Stucky. Stucky has plenty of upside and is becoming a legit PG. Joe Dummars will not trade that away.

Since: Apr 24, 2007
Posted on: November 2, 2010 1:23 pm

Josh Smith could be moved? What?

Pistons have Stuckey who they might trade for Smith

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