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Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

Posted on: December 13, 2010 4:21 pm
Edited on: December 13, 2010 5:06 pm
 
Posted by Matt Moore

It sounds worse than it is, really. In reality, the players' decision to decertify the union is nothing more than a move to put the guns in a row for the upcoming battle: Lockout 2011, coming this summer to a vacant theater near you. But it's noteworthy that the union very much knows what it's doing and is following protocol. From the Dallas Business Journal :
NBA players have begun the process of authorizing the decertification of the National Basketball Players Association, a move meant as a countermeasure if the league locks out players when the collective-bargaining agreement expires in June, sources said.

Players for at least two NBA clubs have voted unanimously to authorize decertification after meeting with NBPA Executive Director Billy Hunter, sources said. Hunter is asking players at each club to vote to allow the union to disband, or decertify, as he makes his annual fall tour of locker rooms.
via NBA clubs vote on decertification | Dallas Business Journal .

So why is the union dissolving itself in the middle of the biggest fight as a union in ten years? Simple: lawsuits. By decertifying the union, the group becomes a trade organization. Which means that should the owners lock them out, they can then sue with a claim that the owners are conducting a group boycott, which is illegal under antitrust laws.

Which would inevitably lead to the league arguing that the decertification is a sham (it is), and that the players don't really want to decertify themselves as a union (they don't). But the union, now a trade organziation, would make every effort to convince them otherwise and leave that avenue open to pursuit.

At some point down this road basketball will be played again. But in the meantime, I'd ejoy the next seven months if I were you. It's all we're going to have for a while.
Comments

Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 16, 2010 8:52 am
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

lepley-NEpats: cant we let god handle it and be happy and play basketball in 2011-2012

If the question of whether there will be NBA basketball in 2011-2012 is one of god's priorities, he is an even worse manager of his affairs than NBA owners! Tongue out LOL



Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 16, 2010 8:48 am
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

Redhoff: The financial struggles are 100% the fault of owners.

I absolutely agree. The players can only consider and accept the contracts they are offered. Players and their agents do NOT set their market value. That is determined by owners falling all over each other rushing to offer the next big free agent the largest contract possible (or, in this case apparently, not possible). If they wanted to keep player salaries under control and operate their business in a profitable manner, they should have exercised self-control and worked within a reasonable budget.

When any other business fails, no one blames the employees because they expected to collect a paycheck. It is, rightfully so, the fault of management if a company fails. Pro athletes may be getting paid a lot more than your average worker, but the fact remains the players, like any other worker, are not responsible for managing the business and, therefore, are not responsible if the business fails due to poor management.



Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 16, 2010 8:39 am
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

lovinMSU: Now what the owners are trying to do is lower costs so ticket prices can come down.

If you really believe that, I've got a nice piece of swampland oceanfront property you might be interested in. Tongue out

The owners and players have one objective in mind: lining their pockets with as much money as possible.



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2010 2:40 pm
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

You lost me when you said the owners wanted to lower costs so they could pass on ticket price savings to the fans.
If you think that's gonna happen and that is the motivation of the owners, you reallly have some issues to figure out. 
The owners are making money either annually, or worse-case, by having a property (their team) that is worth hundreds of millions of bucks while appreciating in value. 



Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2010 12:14 am
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

I was with you until you said you'd be willing to become a soccer fan Maroons5877.  That seems a bit extreme, is there anything any of us can say to talk you off that ledge, nothing is worth turning to soccer for man, don't do it? Wink



Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2010 10:41 pm
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

Redhoff the owners should make some money because techically they own a business.  What business operates at a Loss every year and stays in business? 

If you think the players salary is the only expense they have you are crazy.  There are a ton of other expenses teams have that help to account for the losses they experience, and they are costs the owners cannot get rid of (hotel rooms when the team travels, the airplane for the team, the fuel for the plane, the pilots, etc.)

Now what the owners are trying to do is lower costs so ticket prices can come down.  I dont know about you (and I really dont care to), but I wouldnt pay $40 to see an NBA game, but thats not the cost of even a nose bleed ticket for most teams.  Look at ticket prices for the Heat on stubhub.  $70+ for row 15 or less in the upper level! That is what the owners are fighting against cause at those prices the owners are still losing money.



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: December 13, 2010 10:03 pm
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

People are sheep.  They support old caucasian billionaires, most of whom inherited their wealth, but are 100% willing to hurl venom at the basketball players who are mostly just taking the most money they can.  The financial struggles are 100% the fault of owners.  I see no issue with a basketball player getting paid.  If there was a used car salesman who was great at selling cars, I'd have no issue with him working for whatever dealership paid him the best salary.  It's the American way.  

The owners may be losing some operating funds on an annual basis, but they are owning an asset that is worth 100's of millions of dollars and uaually appreciating in value every year.  They are not hurting.  How can you feel so sorry for the owner of a 250 million dollar piece of property?  These owners have to be laughing at the idiot public who cries tears for them while somehow holding anger for players who simply are negotiating for the best deal they can.  If a player is not worth that much money or you do not have the cash to spend, then you wouldn't pay the player what you are paying them.  The average joe has a lot more in common with a millionaire basketball player than they do the billionaire owner.



Since: Oct 6, 2010
Posted on: December 13, 2010 9:02 pm
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

cant we let god handle it and be happy and play basketball in 2011-2012



Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2010 8:04 pm
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

NBA - Nothing But A**holes! Who Cares?




Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: December 13, 2010 7:54 pm
 

Union organizes by moving to dissolve itself

I would add one but who cares about the NBA 2 minute league
46minutes of ESPN Highlights and 2 minutes of real basketball


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