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Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

Posted on: January 7, 2011 9:33 pm
Edited on: January 7, 2011 10:17 pm
Posted by Royce Young

Just over 24 hours ago, we told you about how the Nuggets were possibly involving the Cleveland Cavaliers in a three-way deal that would send Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey. But as the world turns with this Carmelo crap, things have changed. I'm telling you, this is never going to end.

According to The Bergen Record, the Nets are in talks with of course the Nuggets, but have also involved the Detroit Pistons. Let me warn you, this gets a little complicated. But reportedly, the Nets would send Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and at least two first-round picks to Denver and Troy Murphy and his expiring contract to the Pistons. On top of that, reports the Pistons would have to take on Johan Petro's contract as well as send the Nets a first-round pick.

The Nets would of course get Anthony, but also a couple of surprise pieces. In addition to Carmelo, New Jersey would bring in Chauncey Billups from Denver and Richard Hamilton from Detroit. The Pistons have been shopping Hamilton and his remaining two-year, $25 million contract pretty hard this season.

The report says that more players would be involved to make the salaries line up, but this is just one of the many, many scenarios New Jersey is pitching. Also, reportedly the Nets are trying to trade straight up with Denver for Carmelo.

As Ken Berger has reported, the Nets have had an offer of Favors, Murphy and first-round picks on the table for a while. But as Berger has said, that type of trade might not happen until closer to the Feb. 24 trade deadline. The Nuggets aren't psyched about paying Murphy's salary right now, but might warm up to it when less is owed to him.

At first glance, this is a pretty tremendous deal for New Jersey if it were to happen. To unload Murphy, plus get Anthony, Billups and Hamilton? The question wouldn't be if this were a good deal for the Nets, it would be, "Are these guys contenders now?" Billups, Hamilton, Carmelo, Kris Humphries and Brook Lopez -- that's a pretty darn good starting five, is it not?

The Pistons move Hamilton -- something they desperately want to do -- and get a nice expiring deal in return. The Nuggets probably feel like they could've had more, but Harris, Favors and picks isn't bad at all. I'm not sure they're going to do much better than that.

However, Chris Broussard of tweeted that while the deal has been discussed, it's not happening in its current form. The Pistons aren't willing to give up Hamilton and a first-rounder for Murphy and Petro. And nor should they be. Pretty cruddy deal on their end.

Again, this is just the latest scenario that's surfaced that would move Anthony out of Denver. It doesn't mean this is The Trade that will happen or that in 24 hours we'll be hearing this went official. But it's clear the Nets are motivated to make a deal happen. They don't want to hang around until the deadline. They want to make this move now. And they're willing to call just about any and every team out there to get them involved to make it happen.


Since: Oct 8, 2007
Posted on: January 10, 2011 11:11 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

And one other thing.

It only makes sense that Joe has been ordered not to do ANYTHING with this team unless it involves clearing up cap space? Joe is too smart to make (or consider) some of these recent moves.  It's almost as if his hands are tied.

Since: Oct 8, 2007
Posted on: January 10, 2011 11:03 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

How does this trade proposal help us? We get yet another PF in Troy Murphy (who aint' been right for a while), and a Center no one has ever even heard of.  Meanwhile we lose one of our all-time leading scorers in the playoffs.   If we trade Rip, which might actually be good for both him and the Pistons, wouldn't the objective be to fill some holes - such as PG and C? Or are we going to put a team of PFs and 2-guards on the floor. 

I could tolerate the losing for now, as long as rebuilding is the clear plan. But no one seems to know what the hell the plan is. 

I'm not one of these people who faults Joe D for not picking Melo in '03, because adding an immature rookie to the mix likely would not have led to a championship that year.  Who knows how the chemistry would've been altered for the next several years after 2003.

But these recent moves (e.g. spending $25-mil per year on bench players; ignoring Zach Randolph's plea to become a Piston; signing McGrady who is a shell of his former self; potentially giving away Hamilton for peanuts and a Cherry Coke) are just mind boggling.

Since: Feb 5, 2008
Posted on: January 9, 2011 12:27 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

In any event, the Pistons are making bad deal after bad deal right now... They need to bow out of this one.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2011 12:14 pm

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

Wrong, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Melo was drafted in 2003-04 season Piston's won the Championship that same year in 2003-04 season.  Melo would have been a rookie on the 2004 championship team.  Before telling something they don't know what there talking about, get your facts straight.  They would have been defending champs in melo's second year.

Since: Mar 16, 2008
Posted on: January 8, 2011 11:06 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

The rotation in Detroit is mindboggling. Why Joe went out and signed Gordon and Vila to those contracts when you have Rips contract that nobody wants is confusing. Detroit is in a rebuild mode and to give up a first rd pick in this trade and get Murphy and Petro is starting to remind me of the Matt Millen era with the Lions.

Since: Apr 3, 2010
Posted on: January 8, 2011 9:31 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

Carmelo would have been on the Pistons title team in 2003-2004 just like Darko had they taken Carmelo instead. Sorry

Since: Apr 8, 2009
Posted on: January 8, 2011 9:08 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal? have no idea what u are talking about.....Detroit won the championship with Billups, Rip, and Prince, but Melo wasnt drafted till the offseason dummy...they could of been defending champs with Melo as a ROOKIE!!!!!!

Since: Sep 14, 2009
Posted on: January 8, 2011 8:48 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

maybe detroit can holdout for a sharp stick in the eye as well

Since: Jan 1, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2011 2:07 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

What if any sense were you trying to muster out of that apparent attempt to comment on?

Since: Dec 17, 2010
Posted on: January 8, 2011 12:13 am

Nets involving the Pistons in 3-way Carmelo deal?

Unless that 1st round pick is protected why would Detroit give up a 1st round pick to New Jersey? Joe has really lost his mind the last 3 years. Denver should forget about holding out for more because everybody knows Melo is not going to sign another contract in Denver. They are not in a position to negotiate for more. Does Denver really want to end up like Cleveland or Toronto and have their superstar leave town and get nothing in return? Teams should learn once a superstar is not willing to sign a long term contract you might as well give up and trade him if possible. Especially in a situation like this where Melo wants to go to a big market and team up with his buddies. I find it crazy for New Jersey to trade for Melo without him signing a contract extension. If Melo does not sign an extension I will not be surprised at all when I see him signing with the Knicks in the off season. Throw in another superstar on the Knicks roster and we might have the Heat part 2 all over again for next season.

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