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The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

Posted on: January 12, 2011 6:07 pm
Edited on: January 12, 2011 6:09 pm
Donnie Walsh has many reasons for his icy stance towards chasing Carmelo Anthony.
Posted by Matt Moore

Ken Berger of reports that the Knicks are hanging back, withdrawn from the Carmelo Anthony trade talks with the Nuggets.  There are multiple reasons Berger cites for Donnie Walsh not clamoring at Denver's doorstep like an overeager teenager asking for a prom date as the Nets have. Thing is, these are the reasons that leave you feeling like maybe Melo is just not worth all the hassle, even for all his high-scoring talents. 

First, the Knicks haven't found it easy sledding since the beginning. To put it simply, Masai Ujiri just doesn't think the Knicks have anything worth trading for. New York is short on even the most basic asset, draft picks. Danilo Gallinari has never lit their fire as a building block the way, say, Nicolas Batum seems to. The Knicks have entertained talks to try and snag a draft pick, but at some point, you're just fighting a losing battle and trying to convince people who don't want to deal to deal.  Attempting to gain leverage in such a situation is a losing endeavor, which is why we advised the Nets to walk away months ago. GM's consider their time valuable as all good business men do, and dealing with Ujiri and his constantly moving target and whimsical switching attitudes has probably grown long on Walsh's patience. 

There's also the issue of what you'd have to surrender to get a deal done. As a source told Berger: “People think you can only win with another star,” said the person plugged into the Knicks’ internal strategy. “That’s wrong. You win with a team. … They’re not going to blow up their team for Carmelo.” 

The Knicks are 18-12 since December 1st, and with a big road win over Portland Tuesday night improved to a game over .500 in January. This alongside several tough losses to contending teams including the Lakers, Celtics, and Heat. The Knicks are no doubt legit, and with every game, the question becomes more and more not if they'll make the playoffs, but if homecourt in the first round is a reachable goal, especially considering the Bulls' injuries this season.  Disrupting chemistry to bring in Anthony means taking a fairly thin bench and hurting it, even if they were to take one of the Nuggets' longer contracts along with Melo somehow (nearly impossible given the contracts on New York's roster outside of Stoudemire and Felton, unmovable building blocks).  There's the question of how Anthony would fit into D'Antoni's system which so often shies away from ISO sets beyond Stoudemire at the elbow. Ball movement and sharing the ball are not exactly Anthony's strengths. 

Finally, there's the simple issue of knowing that if Anthony should want to play for New York, as any self-respecting organization should feel its players should, he has that option. Melo can simply refuse extension offers to other trade partners, opt out, and join New York in free agency when they will be more than willing to spend on him. Versus the Nets, who seem hellbent on convincing Anthony that they are worthy, the Knicks know they are a team on the rise in the basketball mecca who play in the world's most famous arena in the grandest city on Earth.  Having to sell guys on their team is not exactly a problem anymore now that they're winning. As it stands, Walsh has no reason to surrender unnecessary leverage in a losing fight when the option exists to get him within fairly even terms. 

Besides, if reports from Yahoo! Sports are correct, Amar'e is doing a fine job of selling Melo on the organization by himself. The question of course is if that constitutes tampering, and if David Stern actually step in, something he hasn't done in previous instances. Another element which may make pursuing Melo all the less appealing. Then again, if they were to trade a draft pick, how is New York going to be punished? By losing more draft picks they don't care about? Still, Amar'e would seem to be the furthest point of the Knicks' pursuit at this point. 

This is all before you start flirting with the idea of William Wesley being deep inside your organization, along with the rest of the CAA viper's nest.  Those situations can get out of hand quickly, and for a team that seems to be bonding, introducing that element can also be considered dangerous. And so the Knicks hang back, knowing they have leverage, and that it is explicitly their lack of palpable assets with Denver's interest that makes them able to stand off. "You don't want us? We don't want you. Have a nice day." 

Sometimes the best moves you can make are the ones you don't. 

Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: January 14, 2011 11:20 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

andthen they pick him up as a free agent next year, with out gutting their team to get him!Walsh is in the Driver's seat.

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: January 13, 2011 11:17 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

Sorry jkidd, the Nets haven't been relevant since Dr. J left....and Melo knows it.

Since: Feb 18, 2010
Posted on: January 13, 2011 6:02 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

i think alot of people are forgetting that. and playing for a lousy or barely playoff team in the nets will not get him as many endorsements as playing for the knicks. whether the nets are in jersey or brooklyn, playing for the up and coming knicks will get him more exposure and endorsements then the nets ever could.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: January 13, 2011 5:42 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

I love Walsh.  He is an AWESOME business man.  Most of you do not know much about the art of negotiations(not a knock on any of u but most people don't)  He, on purpose, is sitting back for more than one reason.  As a buyer, youy never want to see too eager to make a deal but you never want the opposing side to think there's no chance of making a deal.  Basically he's keeping the Nuggets o the defensive and making them feel he's not worth as much as they think.  If it works, they'll drop their pants and Walsh and the Knicks will win big time.  The ball is in the Knicks court.  If it all fails, Melo will be a free agent at the end of the year.  No reason to sign an extension w/ the NETS.....If you play for NYC endorsements will be worth A LOT MORE then his salary.

Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: January 13, 2011 4:32 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

The Nets can go ahead and trade away-  he'll NEVER re-sign with them after they gut their team, and the Knicks will get him in the off-season.  Bottom line is, MELO WANTS TO PLAY IN NY, and NO ONE CAN STOP HIM FROM OPTING OUT AND BECOMING A FREE AGENT in the off season.  He has already turned down numerous extension offers, and managed to kill one trade to the Nets previously.  He is doing everything in his power to end up in NY, or some other franchise on the rise.  Not NJ. 

I think he will stay in Denver for this season, but he could get traded.  Bottom line is either way, after this season I think he signs with the Knicks as a free-agent, and the Knicks retain their young talent, and can possibly go after Chris Paul as well, with Eddy Curry's 11 mil coming off the books. 

Since: Feb 18, 2010
Posted on: January 13, 2011 2:28 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

the nets arent the knicks rivals. yes they play in the same market but one is the hot older sister every1 loves (knicks) and the other is the ugly nerdy sister (nets). the nets have more to offer the nuggets but the bigger question is what does a gutted net team have to offer melo. the dream of playing in brooklyn and chris paul maybe in 2 yrs? the arena in brooklyn will be nice but new york is still and will always be KNICK town. and the hornets are doing everything to keep paul. even if paul leaves he will surely have alot more options than the nets. brook lopez has taken a step back this year but still a nice young piece. but can a lineup wit an old billups (who has said he will ask for a buyout if traded to jersey), an old rip (his  contract gives the nets even less flexibility in FA) melo and lopez do? im biased but the knick lineup still looks alot better. i feel that in the end  the knicks will sign him as a free agent and if not they go after a center, backup pg and a solid sg so we can have fields come off the bench

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: January 13, 2011 1:37 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

The Nets and Knicks are not rivals. The Knicks and Bulls are rivals. No one is rivals with the Nets.

Since: Jan 15, 2008
Posted on: January 12, 2011 9:40 pm

The complicated cost of New York's Melo agenda

"Sometimes the best moves you can make are the ones you don't. "  Yeah, this is gonna look like a great move for the Knicks after Melo gets traded to their rival Nets

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