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Hornets should meet attendance mark; is it fair?

Posted on: January 20, 2011 8:46 pm
Edited on: January 20, 2011 8:47 pm
Posted by Royce Young

The New Orleans Hornets have the right to terminate their lease early with the city if certain benchmarks are not met. It's kind of been the cloud that's hung over the franchise recently, especially with all the uncertainty surrounding ownership and potential relocation talk.

The catch has always been that a new buyer could potentially have the opportunity to uproot the franchise immediately because of the ability to break the lease with the city.

However, it doesn't look like the franchise will be given that opportunity. As mentioned in today's Shootaround, the team only needs to average 14,891 fans against San Antonio on Saturday and Oklahoma City on Monday, which should happen.

The announced attendance at the Hornets past two home games against the Grizzlies and Raptors were 15,951 and 15,155, respectively. The benchmark is set to expire Jan. 31

According to The Times-Picayune , local businesses have donated about $412,000 for tickets to games against Memphis and Toronto to help increase attendance figures. The home game previous to that against the Orlando Magic, who have big names like Dwight Howard and Gilbert Arenas, only brought in a crowd of 13,688. The previous two home games before the Magic, the Hornets saw crowds of 13,532 (Warriors) and 13,433 (76ers).

I don't know what to think about this. On one hand, good going by the locals in rising up to help take a big step in keeping the team in New Orleans. On the other hand, do they really deserve it? The fans of the Hornets didn't actually do it. Some rich people made it happen. Meeting the benchmark is a fabrication. It only happened because some business people beat the system. Is that really the way it should work?

I guess you can't really change it because how can you stop people from buying tickets? But still, donating more than $400,000 just to massage some attendance numbers seems weird to me.

The team expects to have good crowds against the Spurs and Thunder, but is it because some business folks are making it happen or are people really turning out? And does it really matter?

In the end, the arena is going to meet its benchmark which is step one in keeping the team home. But it's only a step and in the end, probably won't mean all that much.

Category: NBA

Since: Mar 13, 2007
Posted on: January 23, 2011 8:39 pm

Hornets should meet attendance mark; is it fair?

i wasnt singling the hornets out

and fine comparing to new york is a bad example

but its simple business if your stadium doesnt fill up
its hard to stay in business if the hornets fans want to keep them around show up to the games

and like i said im not singling them out

the pacers couldnt sell out when they made it to the finals
the hawks have terrible attendance
the heat had trouble selling out

the point is really that contraction needs to happen not only so that the league can actually let basic fundamental economics help the leauge grow
but also by contracting the league all the teams will become more talented

to think that i had some grudge against NO and just wanted them gone shows how clueless you are

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2011 11:20 am

Hornets should meet attendance mark; is it fair?

Nighthawkace,   New York City has 10 million people, New Orleans has 400,000.  The truth is, there should NEVER be an empty seat at ANY sporting event in New York City, even if its badminton.  Anything less is embarrassing.  Hornets played the Hawks last night in Atlanta.  Atlanta has a METRO area population of about 6 million, compared to New Orleans' 1 million.  The Hawks average LOWER attendance than the Hornets.  Do you ever talk about moving the Hawks?  The attendance clause is a totally non-relevant factor.  It was added to the lease by a rich person's lawyer, to give the rich person an opportunity to hold New Orleans or another city hostage for more money.  Comparing New Orleans to New York shows how clueless you are.

Since: Mar 13, 2007
Posted on: January 20, 2011 10:46 pm

Hornets should meet attendance mark; is it fair?

if the celtics and knicks can average perfectly decent attendance while the jets and patriots play/ed into the playoffs i think the same should be expected of the hornets
some cities dont deserve to have sports teams because they simply dont consider them top entertainment the tampa rays is another good example the team had trouble getting more fans to show up to theyre world series games

and woulndt you know it now the team is selling/releasing all its players

the nba has a diluted talent pool and about 5-6 cities who could care less about theyre basketball team (overall) obviously each team has fans

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: January 20, 2011 9:51 pm

Hornets should meet attendance mark; is it fair?

Actually, Royce, what's not fair is having an attendance "benchmark" to begin with, especially one structured as such.  It only takes into account the FIRST HALF of the season.  In New Orleans, attendance doesn't pick up until AFTER the Saints season ends.  AS YOU HAVE JUST SEEN.  Saints season is over, and you get attendances of 15.1K on a Monday afternoon, and almost 16K on a Wednesday, a notoriously bad night to draw, against a losing team.  Its what we've TRIED to explain to all of you Seattle, Kansas City, San Jose, Anaheim, Las Vegas apologists for years.  If a team averages 13,500 for half the season and 16,000 for the other half the season, their AVERAGE is 14,750. The benchmark was set for the average (14,750), but it had to be met during the part of the season where they NORMALLY average 13,500.  Is THAT really FAIR?  No.  Yet, teams like Atlanta, the Nets, and Sacramento, in much larger markets, who are  having real attendance problems, are ignored.  It has NEVER been lack of fan support that has caused the Hornets' problems; it was ownership and the small market, which means less TV and radio broadcast revenues.  By the way, the local businesses didn't donate $412K for tickets to Memphis and Toronto.  That's the TOTAL amount they have donated for tickets over the last month and a half.  It equates to about 600 tickets a game.  STOP ALREADY with the misinformation.  So, no, it wasn't the "rich people" that made it happen.

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