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If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

Posted on: February 10, 2011 3:34 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2011 7:54 pm
 
Posted by Royce Young



News of Jerry Sloan's resignation is about as shocking a thing as you can expect on your regular February Thursday in the NBA. It came just a week after Sloan had reportedly signed a one-year extension and as the longest tenured coach in American professional sports, everyone was left asking one question.

Why?

According to the Salt Lake Tribune, Sloan had "lost the team." One source described the situation as Deron Williams only staying if Sloan stepped down. Everything down to playing time, Sloan's famous "flex" system and rotations alienated key Jazz players.

Yahoo! Sports reports the two clashed in a big way at halftime of the Bulls' game Wednesday. “He decided right there in halftime that he was done,” a league source said. “He felt like ownership was listening more to Williams than they were to him anymore. He was done.”

Marc Stein of ESPN.com added to the pile, tweeting : "Two sources say Wednesday's tension started when DWill ran different play than play called on sideline by Sloan, leading to halftime blowup."

Whoa.

Williams is a free agent in 2012 and has always been a very strong-willed player. Williams and Sloan had always gotten along, but the relationship has certainly been rocky. The feeling, according to Brian T. Smith of the Salt Lake Tribune, is that Williams wasn't staying past next season if Sloan was still there.

But Deron Williams didn't just push out a coach, he pushed out Jerry Sloan. He pushed out the coach that had patrolled the sideline for 23 years. He pushed out a Hall of Famer, a coach with more than 1,200 wins and one of the all-time great. Not exactly something you want on your resume when you're looking for that max contract as a free agent.

So the front office may have made this move in order to salvage its chance to keep Williams. But the question is, how in the world does Williams stay if his legacy is pushing out Jerry Sloan? How can he possibly re-assert himself as the face of the franchise if he's the one credited with pushing the franchise's most legendary figure out the door?

Al Jefferson was brought in to replace Carlos Boozer and had performed well at times, but often looked uncomfortable. But really, who's fault is that? Sloan's, or the person that assembled the team? I mean, Sloan has been there for 23 years. I'm pretty sure we know how he's running the team. So it's not on him to bring in players that fit in right. It's up to players to adapt to the system and for the front office to put together a group that works well in it.

If Jerry Sloan "lost the team," I just find that ridiculous. Yes, the Jazz have been struggling. They're 31-23 and second in the Northwest. But they had high hopes this season with the offseason addition of Jefferson. Then again, this is a team that was losing Boozer, sharpshooter Kyle Korver and Ronnie Brewer, who all played key parts in the team last season.

And on top of that, the star Williams, wasn't playing nice with Sloan. All of that was a recipe for disaster. Evidently Sloan had enough. By all appearances management was siding with the players here so backed into a corner, Jerry Sloan just handed in his papers.
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Since: Oct 28, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:57 pm
 

If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

I would think that ALL atheletes have a higher ego and sense of self worth than you're everyday average person. Hell, they're told that they're the best thing to ever happen from the time they hit the little leagues. This isn't a race thing and it's pretty pathetic that someone could turn it into that. The problem is that the days of the coach being the first and last word on the floor or in the field are over. Owners are afraid to piss off players because they all have the same attitude and will refuse to come and play for you.


Ihateumpires
Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:41 pm
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Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:36 pm
 

If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

ihateumpires -should be proud of yourself. You get the attention you desire but your still nothing but the scum of the earth hiding behind a computer...



Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:32 pm
 

If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

your very tough sitting behind your laptop in your underwear you freaking piece of crap. Too bad your mom slapped you around and you couldnt play any sports otherwise you might be an alright dude...jst saying


Ihateumpires
Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:15 pm
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Since: Aug 20, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:04 pm
 

If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

You are an idiot.  Were Dr. J, Magic Johnson, Wilt, Kareem, or more recently Grant Hill, Ray allen, Paul Pierce, and about 300 other players thugs?  You are a backwoods, sister-kissing, 9 toothed bigot!  Yes there are jerks and punks in all sports and yes a lot of them in the NBA are black, but what about Jason Williams aka white Chocolate he is a punk and is as white as the snow.  The vast majority of NBA players are black and an even larger percentage of the star players are, so yes there are more "black" punks in the NBA than white or any other color or nationality.  But you my friend are an idiot.  Way to make what should be about a legend leaving into a race issue.  Moron!


Erving: Not sure if he ever caused trouble within his team. I will say he's being sued for fraud now.

Magic: Couldn't keep his parts to himself on his bachelor party, and ended up contracting HIV. Had to quit basketball because of his own selfishness. Screwed his entire team in the process.

Abdul-Jabbar is a drunk who puts innocent people's lives at risk while he drives intoxicated.

Grant Hill is one of the very few who hasn't, so far as I know, committed fraud, had issues on the court, refused to listen to a coach, cheated on his wife, or been arrested for anything.

Michael Jordan was a "me first" player. Great player, but everything had to revolve around him.

Hell, even Jason Kidd, who I've been a fan of ever since he came to the NBA was a courtside cancer originally.

When was the last time Dirk was? Or Steve Nash? or Larry Bird, if you want to go into the past? Or John Stockton, for that matter? or Jeff Hornacek. Need I go on?


Fact of the matter is, it's in every sport, it's just not often a coach actually quits because of a player. It happened to Jeff Fischer, too. Vince Young was a problem.



If your criteria for thug is a he had sex with too many women, or being sued, or according to you drinks and drives, then I can't help you.  Hell by your standard Rex Ryan is a punk HE LIKES FEET!  There are plenty of good guys out there, everyone and I mean everyone makes mistakes or says something they wish they could take back (I am sure you know how that feels).  I hope you do not have children and do not spew your hate and ignorance on to them.  I am a middle aged white guy and I am just completely stunned by the comments you are making.  Instead of stating Blacks are punks, why not just state D-Wil is a punk?  Like I am sure not all of your family are racist morons, just you.



Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:00 pm
 

If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

Frankly, I'm surprised Jerry Sloan held on this long. 
All those  seasons. All those playoff wins. 
All those years on the ALL defense team as a player. A former top ten pick. 
We forget that Jerry Sloan, the player, went head to head with Oscar Robertson and Jerry West and Walt Frazier and gave them fits. Yes, gave them fits. Sloan and Van Lier/ Weiss were the most unselfish back court tandems in NBA history. 
Sloan's Bull teams came up short or just short to teams featuring multiple hall of famers for something like 5 straight years. They always fought. 
He brought that to the Jazz. 
Tyrone Corbin has always seemed to be a "class act" all the way back to his days at DePaul. His toughness, his aggressiveness, his physicality reminded Chicago fans of Joe Ponsetto and yes, of Jerry Sloan. 
If he can remind Utah fans of Jerry Sloan as a coach more power to him. If he can stay a "class act" and not "lose the team" he should get his bust on Mt. Rushmore. 
Today's players and "management" have proven that flair and potential far outweigh grit and substance even when grit and substance has been proven to lead to greatness. Shame on Utah's players and especially on Utah's management. 




Since: Jan 5, 2011
Posted on: February 10, 2011 7:00 pm
 

If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

This isn't professional journalism. This is TMZ-esque, rumor-based crap. Try reporting FACTS next time, you imbecile. They are both stubborn people, it's both of their faults. Is it not just D-Will who needed to back off. Just because Sloan's system "worked" for 23 years - which was usually true, and sometimes not - doesn't mean it would absolutely positively work again this year. This team is full of new people, and sometimes, believe it or not, the team will benefit if the system is able to adapt to the new players' styles. I'm sure there are pros and cons all over the place but the obvious truth is that the system stopped working this year. Time for Ty Corbin to step up and see what needs to change in order to make things run smoothly again. And the last thing he needs is people jumping ship on him. Be it fans, players, racist bloggers who probably don't care about the Jazz at all, who cares? He needs the approval of his community if he is to do the job he was asked to do. Pointing out every little possibility as to what went wrong is just dwelling on the past. Cheer up and move on. He was here for a helluva long time, and it was good while it lasted.


Ihateumpires
Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2011 6:54 pm
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Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2011 6:50 pm
 

If Williams forced out Sloan how can he stay now?

  you are a clueless buffoon. If you're a Chargers fan I guess you ignore things like holdouts and egos like Merriman.

This is a typical NBA? It's typical America dude get a grip. Labor and Mgmt have been at odds forever in this country's history.

Have you ever worked in an organization?  have you ever held a job? Wake up man.


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