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Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

Posted on: February 18, 2011 10:06 am
Edited on: February 18, 2011 11:30 am
 
Report: Reggie Miller fails to make cut for Hall of Fame finalists despite stellar career. 
Posted by Matt Moore

Indiana is not having an awesome sports stretch. Watched Duke best local heroes Butler in the Final Four, just months after watching Drew Brees do his thing on Peyton Manning. But nothing is really going to match the outrage that's likely raging across the Hoosier State this morning. 

The New York Times and Yahoo! Sports report that Reggie Miller failed to make the cut of finalists for the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. Which is, you know, kind of insane. 

Miller held the all-time record for three-pointers until a week ago when Ray Allen rained down. Miller played 18 seasons, all for the Pacers, back when guys still played their entire career for small-market teams. He was a 5-time All-Star, an Olympic Gold Medal winner, and is 17th All-Time in points scored in his career. Throw in all the huge moments, the fact that he's the reason we use the phrase "8 points, 9 seconds" (not just a blog, friends!) and make choking signs at Spike Lee, it's really hard to see where the voters were coming from on this one. 

The other candidates certainly had some worthy selections. Tex Winters, Dennis Rodman, Don Nelson,  Rudy Tomjanovich, and Dick Bavetta, and Spencer Haywood are all strong candidates. But outside of Winters and Nelson, who provided long-term contributions to the game that can't be replicated, is any of those candidates necessarily more worthy than Miller? Rodman is a top-three rebounder of all time, if not the best, but is also more known for his... ahem, eccentricities and was able to mosey on over to ride Jordan's coattails to titles. Hard to pinpoint that Miller wasn't his superior in overall play. 

The knock on Miller always comes back to the idiotic championship question. As if a player's singular talents can impact the dozens of things necessary for a player to win a championship including but not nearly limited to luck. We're not even talking about actually being voted in, here, we're just talking about making the cut. Voters didn't think that Reggie Miller, despite his place in the game's history, had enough to even warrant being a finalist. It is at this point we're reminded that no Hall of Fame is run under an adequate system.

Miller's numbers don't leap off the page, a career 18, 3, and 3 guy. But in his peak he was what made the Pacers a Finals contender and right up until his final season, he was part of what made the Pacers contenders. 

But that's all for naught, as he'll have to wait another year. 
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Since: Nov 21, 2010
Posted on: February 18, 2011 2:27 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

If that's the case, then Reggie retired a year too late.  SCOTTIE PIPPEN got in last year.  Talk about being a day late and a dollar short.  I try to take lunch at 11:30 every day, and I usually get what my favorit hoagie with a relatively short wait in line.  Sometimes, I need to finish something, and I don't get to eat until noon.  My favorite hoagies are always out, and it takes like 20 minutes to get through the line.  Was this the difference between Scottie Pippen and Reggie Miller?  Doesn't Conseco do retirement planning?  They own the freaking stadium, can't they take care of the players?  Had Conseco done its job, Miller would be in the Hall of Fame by now.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2011 2:23 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

  • All-time NBA leader in total three-point field goals made: 2,560
  • Ranks 13th all-time in total points: 25,279
  • Ranks 7th all-time in free throw percentage: 88.8 percent
  • Ranks 6th all-time in minutes played: 47,619
  • Ranks 7th all-time in games played: 1,323
  • All-time NBA leader in total three-point field goals made in the playoffs: 320
  • Led the league twice in three-point field goals made: 1992-93, 1996-97
  • Led the league in free throw percentage five times, including his last season
  • One of only four players in NBA history to have shot 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from three-point range and 90 percent from the free throw line in one season
  • 5-time NBA All Star
  • 6 Eastern Conference Finals appearances
  • 1 NBA Finals Appearance




If those stats above aren't hall of fame numbers, they need to shut the hall down right now.....  give me a break... I guess he needed to be a problem player with gang affiliations to get respect.....




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2011 2:19 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

As a longtime Knicks fan there I few players I liked less than Reggie.  However, to think he did not even make the final ballot seems ridiculous.  In a way he re-defined the 2 guard position...the non-stop movement without the ball, coming of screens.  This guy had ice water running through his veins and was a cold blooded assasin on the court.  He carried those teams with not much of a supporting cast when you think about it.  Both the Knicks and Bulls had more talent than those Pacers teams.  I didn't like Reggie as a player, but repected the hell out of him.  Rodman?  Spencer Haywwod?  Come on....

I agree with most of your post.  Reggie Miler deserves to be in the hall of fame... I'm shocked he's not even a finalist... crazy man....

But for you to laugh off Dennis Rodman is just as crazy in my opinion. Obviously you didn't see Rodman play a lot or you hate the Pistons so much you're blinded by that.... The guy is one of the best rebounders to ever play the game of basketball, like the writer said probably at least top 3 of all time if not the best.   He was also one of the best defensive players to ever play the game... look at how many times he led the league in rebounding, particularly offensive rebounds.... crazy !!  And oh yeah, he was only SIX FOOT SEVEN !!!! 

He had the heart of a lion and the heart and determination of a champion. What happened to him after that is crazy and not good, I admit that.  But to laugh him off like you did is wrong....

If Rodman was playing today in his prime, he would be a max contract player.... he was THAT good man.......




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2011 2:10 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

This is OUTRAGEOUS! Reggie Miller is the greatest clutch shooter in the history of the game. Period. To those of you who only think that he had a few great moments against the Knicks and thats it, you must have not been watching the NBA as a whole during the '90s and even the couple of years after 2000. He hit huge shots in clutch spots against numerous teams time after time. To those who say he was only a three point specialist and nothing else: If you do one thing well, be the best at it. We all know that Ray Allen broke his 3-point record two weeks ago, and no one else is even within shouting range of that number. And it's not like he was Antoine Walker, throwing up ten threes and hitting three of them. The guy shot like 45% from three for his career. To those of you who say he couldn't play defense, tell that to Michael Jordan (who hated playing against Reggie). To those of you who say he never won anything, again, talk to Michael Jordan. Jordan was winning six championships during the peak of Reggie's career, and I don't think that should preclude him from the HOF. Malone and Stockton never won a championship because of the same Bulls team, but I don't hear anyone saying that they don't deserve to be in the HOF. 
To all of you who say this is no big deal, you're either a hater or you just don't remember. If you watched this guy play, and you remember what it was like, then you know he is a Hall of Famer. What happened yesterday is ridiculous.



Since: Feb 18, 2011
Posted on: February 18, 2011 2:06 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

As a longtime Knicks fan there I few players I liked less than Reggie.  However, to think he did not even make the final ballot seems ridiculous.  In a way he re-defined the 2 guard position...the non-stop movement without the ball, coming of screens.  This guy had ice water running through his veins and was a cold blooded assasin on the court.  He carried those teams with not much of a supporting cast when you think about it.  Both the Knicks and Bulls had more talent than those Pacers teams.  I didn't like Reggie as a player, but repected the hell out of him.  Rodman?  Spencer Haywwod?  Come on....



Since: Mar 24, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2011 1:57 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

Cheryl was amazing. That's a fact. Another fact is that his brother was actually a catcher for the Angels. Talk about a family with talent. Except Reggie was born with a condition that made it impossible for him to run. I forget exactly the details, but I believe that his hips were turned inward. So, I think it was around the age of 5, that he (as in 5 year old Reggie) made a decision to have a very risky surgery. Reggie Miller was a stronger person at 5 years old than I might ever be. Can you imagine having athletic siblings and not be able to run or walk without leg braces? Can you imagine being 5 years old and being asked if you want to have your hips broken back, surgically repaired, risk bleeding to death in a very risky surgery all so you can run and play with the other kids? My hardest decision at 5 was whether or not to stay up for the movie or fall asleep during kindergarten nap time. Then to become a HALL OF FAME (it will happen someday) professional basketball player?! It's a truly inspirational story if any of you have a minute to read up on his life. He stayed with Indiana his entire career despite racists (don't know if it was KKK or just random displays of hate) burning his home and sending constant life threatening mail. Just a good guy with a great story. I heard the night he set his career high (I think at MSG) that he told Cheryl about it, and she scored over 100+ that night in her game haha. He kept Indiana as the 2nd best team in basketball (with a lil help from Mark Jackson, the Davis boys and the dunkin Dutchman) for several years. I can't tell you how many titles Reggie could have if it wasn't for MJ. Everytime the Pacers lost in the conference finals to the Bulls, they probably would have beaten the team the Bulls played in the finals. And by the way MJ, you pushed Byron Russell harder than Reggie pushed you....big baby. Reggie couldn't beat Mike, but no one could. So throw that titles thing out the window. Are there not going to be more than one Hall of Fame tennis player that comes out of the last decade even though Federer won everything...and tennis is even an individual sport. Can't blame titles on Reggie. He showed loyalty to his team, and fought with them to the end. I admire that. Like it said in the article. Anyone could have pulled a Dennis Rodman and jumped on Michael's coattail...but where is the fighter spirit in that? And when it comes to fighter spirit...there may not be a single player in this new DIVA-RIDDEN (MJ was the first true diva to take every shot and exclude his team and expect every call to go his way. His Hall of Fame speech was an embarresment and a smack in the face to the true legends of the game. Almost as big a smack as what the game has become) NBA that has more heart and more fight than Reggie. He was a sharpshooting assassin and when it came to a game-winning shot you'll be hard pressed to find anyone you'd rather have take it...including MJ and Kobe. He embraced challenges and over came all but the elusive ring. Does he deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? That question may be the exception to the rule of there "aren't any dumb questions".



Since: Feb 18, 2011
Posted on: February 18, 2011 1:52 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

I crunched a bunch of numbers on NBA players a few years ago and Miller ranked surprisingly low. He was a one-trick pony -- shooting. He didn't rebound, pass or defend.

Now, he may have been the best shooter in NBA history and should get in eventually, but he was very one dimensional.



Since: Nov 16, 2010
Posted on: February 18, 2011 1:50 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist




Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: February 18, 2011 1:49 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

Reggie Miller only averaged more than 22 points a game once in his career
He did it twice, and why is 22ppg is such an important milestone? why not 20 or 35?



Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2011 1:49 pm
 

Report: Reggie Miller denied for HOF finalist

Reggie Millere is a Hall of Famer.  Just not the first time around.  It only beomces a big deal because of The Rodman thing.   That's the source of the embarrasement.  Rodman shouldn't even be in such a conversation.  A damn good rebounder, but then so is Anderson Verajao.  Ahh, well.  Dennis will always have had Carmen Electra for a night.  Sweet dreams, son.


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