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Players weigh in on trash talk

Posted on: February 20, 2011 10:17 am
 
Posted by Royce Young



LOS ANGELES -- Sometimes it's in good fun, sometimes it's to try and irk your opponent to gain an edge. Whatever the intent behind it, trash talk is just a part of sports.

Always has been, always will be.

The topic was kind of brought to the forefront earlier in the NBA season when Charlie Villanueva tweeted that Kevin Garnett told him he looked like a cancer patient during a game. Immediately we were all wondering what was fair and what was foul.

Spike Lee, who sits courtside at New York Knick games and can surely hear a good amount of on-court chatter, recently said of Garnett's trash talking tactics, "He needs to calm the (bleep) down." So it's at least a conversation worth having.

I think the whole trash talk thing is overrated," Dirk Nowitzki said. "I think no feelings will get hurt. Once the game's over, everything is forgotten. We want to win, that's how we compete and afterwards, it's done.

In terms of Garnett specifically? "I don't think it's bad. I think it's his style," Dirk said. "I've been competing against him for 13 years now, and that's how he plays. His intensity is [second to] none to any other player in the league. That's his style."

Garnett has kind of become the lightning rod for discussion about it. With Lee's comment, the Villanueva tweet and then the low-blow to Channing Frye, all of this trash talk/dirty play thing has been re-hashed all over again. Garnett has always been this way though. He's always been intense. Always been a talker. It's the way he plays. It's his game. And he's not changing it.

"I go at this a certain way. I always have, always will," Garnett said Friday in Los Angeles. "I don’t make any excuses about that or apologize for anything that I’ve done. I think I carry myself in a well-fashioned manner. I respect the game first off. I respect the players, and I’m definitely not out there trying to hurt anybody. I don’t want to be hurt ... I’m out there playing hard and playing competitive. If it comes off as something else, then that’s your problem.”

Obviously, it's clear what's fair and what's not. Garnett's line about Villanueva and cancer definitely appeared to cross some sort of trash talk line. (Though later of course Garnett said that he was actually calling Villanueva a cancer to his team. Who knows.)

But talking is fun. In most cases, that is. Players don't always do it to try and get in their opponents head. Sometimes it's just because basketball is fun, playing basketball is fun and talking trash is fun. Simple as that. Some take part, some don't.

"I enjoy myself, but I don't talk no trash," Kevin Durant said. "If guys want to talk about the game or whatever, I talk. But I just leave it at that. I don't try and get into it too much."
Comments

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2011 5:37 pm
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

Kevin Garnett was not always like this. He had very little to say when he was on a bottom end losing team in Minnesota. Ever since he went to Boston he's been talking crap. I'm surprised this article did not bring up how he railroaded Lamar Odom in the 4th quarter of the last NBA Finals game when they blew out the Lakers. It was flat out dirty and he never would have done that in Minnesota, hell he never did in Minnesota. If he brought that intensity to the court in Minnesota they would have won games and got further than the second round.



Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: February 21, 2011 3:28 pm
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

If you need to talk about a persons family, call them names, threaten them, whatever during or before a game in order to "get into their head", all that means is that you feel the need to give them something to think about during the game so they are not at their best.  Meaning that you think their game is better than yours and you have to talk sh!t to make the two of you equal.  That's the ONLY way to look at it.  If you actually thought you were better than they are then let your game talk and keep your big mouth shut.



Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2011 3:03 pm
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

I have no idea how Kevin Garnetts cheap shot to the groin vs. Channing Frye, and running under his foot before landing are considered "trash talk".   Trash talk doesn't mean a thing, and if somebody can't handle hearing it, they shouldn't be a pro.  Dirty plays trying to hurt somebody are a completely different thing.  That is where Garnett crossed the line (at least in one game). 



Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2011 1:18 pm
 

Is there a second page to this story?

It seems like it ended abruptly with the Durant comment.  I don't get it.  What a horrible story.




Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2011 1:14 pm
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Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2011 12:59 pm
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

My observation is that in the NBA and other sports, the number of non-trash talkers far outway the trash talkers.  Good sportsmanship in exhibited by the vast majority of players.  For those in the minority, the trash talkers, I'm not going to admonish them, they are adults.  I'm also not going to endorse their behavior, in fact, I condemn it.  Don't allow it with my kids, those in my house and those on my youth teams.




Since: Sep 10, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2011 12:51 pm
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

They're lucky they have elite athletic ability. Otherwise I suspect a lot of them would end up trying to shank each other in the exercise yard.



Since: Apr 18, 2010
Posted on: February 21, 2011 12:31 pm
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

When in Minnesota.... quiet as a mouse



Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2011 12:23 pm
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

Garrnett when he is running his mouth is equal to about a 75 IQ maybe an 80 if someone gives him the answer. I don't some good old in your face trash talking but IQ man goes way over the line. If was not a star he would not be able to get a job at Mac Donalds GMANC



Since: Aug 26, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2011 9:53 am
 

Players weigh in on trash talk

It is one thing when KG is talking trash when he's on the floor, although it does get old seeing him drop constant MF bombs in a very demonstrative fashion.

Where I have taken exception to KG was 2 years ago when he was injured and sat out during the playoffs.  In the historic 7 game 5OT series against the Bulls, KG was by far the most vocal Celtic in a heated, physical series.  It was completely unprofessional for a player dressed in street clothes to be up off the bench coming down toward mid-court during timeouts to explicitly lay into the opposition with verbal assaults and a lot of chest pounding.  He was not a part of the series, and there was no need to get involved with the players on the other team, especially when he was incapable of backing up anything he was saying with his actions on the floor.  When you are playing the game and can backup your trash talk, okay, but if you are dressed in a suit, shut the hell up.


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