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Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

Posted on: March 8, 2011 9:21 pm
Edited on: March 8, 2011 10:02 pm
 
Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant has passed Moses Malone on the NBA's all-time scoring list. Posted by Ben Golliver. 

Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant continued his ascent up the NBA's all-time scoring list during Tuesday night's game against the Atlanta Hawks, moving past Hall of Fame center Moses Malone into sixth place. 

Bryant entered the game 12 points behind Malone and notched his 11th, 12th and 13th points at the free throw line, after being fouled while shooting a three-pointer with 2:04 remaining in the second quarter. 

Malone scored 27,409 points in 1,329 games during his career. Bryant reached that mark in his 1,086th game, 243 games faster than Malone. 

Bryant began the 2010-2011 NBA season in 12th place on the all-time list. This year he has passed (in order): John Havlicek (26,395), Dominique Wilkins (26,668), Oscar Robertson (26,710), Hakeem Olajuwon (26,946) and Elvin Hayes (27,313). 

The only active player in front of Bryant is Boston Celtics center Shaquille O'Neal, Bryant's former teammate in Los Angeles. O'Neal is currently in fifth place on the list, roughly 1,100 points ahead of Bryant. Given the distance between those two players, it's a virtual certainty that Bryant will conclude this season in sixth place. The next closest active player? Celtics forward Kevin Garnett, who is 22nd all-time.

The top four scorers in NBA history are Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (38,387), Karl Malone (36,928), Michael Jordan (32,292) and Wilt Chamberlain (31,419). Back in January , we took a look at Bryant's career scoring trajectory and how it's likely that he will finish his career no lower than third all-time.

The Lakers defeated the Hawks, 101-87, in Atlanta. Bryant finished with 26 points. 
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Since: Dec 2, 2006
Posted on: March 10, 2011 1:09 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

" the one thing for certain was Kobe could not handle the day to day constant beration at the self inflating ego of Shaq and I am glad the Lakers made an excellent choice"

And the fickle nature of some Lakers fans is on display...

If Shaq would have stayed and Kobe would have left, you'd be saying the same thing about Kobe.  A lot of people can argue that Kobe's ego is just as big, if not BIGGER, than Shaqs.  You won't, of course, because you're a Laker fan.  Kobe's ego initiated the move to push Shaq out of town.  Shaq found more success, until age caught up to him and Kobe was gift-wrapped Pau Gasol.  How quick fans are to forget that.

Two egos destroyed what could have been a dynasty to rival Bird's Celtics or Magic's Lakers... It sucks.

The worst part is hearing hardcore Laker fans try to convince people that Kobe is better than Jordan.  Please tell me you don't believe that.



Since: Mar 9, 2011
Posted on: March 9, 2011 11:46 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

If you are interested in including ABA stats as well, this website would interest you:



Although, I assume most of you guys are from the US and probably already know about it. Coming from Australia, I only came across it in the last year.



Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 5:27 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

I don't think anyone thinks it is pointless.  The points are based separately, but I agree they should be viewed in a combined manner, but as I am saying this, I have to wonder should we count D league stats as well then?  Not that I think there would be a noteworthy case that would benefit from this...

I still think your point is valid and I have more stones to count on the way to passing Shaq.  That is the number I want to see, not the MJ stat.  Karl Malone would be nice as well his was based on longevity and healthiness.



Since: Jan 22, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:30 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list


Don't get me worng about that list of ABA+NBA Points ... I'm not making a pointless argument about who is "better" then who.   I'm just saying that when you look at a Career Statistical listing, to leave out those from the ABA who split their careers is not really the FULL story.  That's all ... it's hard to say anyone is better the Kobe.    I actually think that when you weigh how Kobe plays within a team structure and delivers the rings, his stature elevates as those Glory-Grabbing Heat Primadonnas suffer loss after loss.  On a smaller scale you see it in Denver.   The Nuggets are now 2-deep at all positions and have the ultmate motivator:  "If you are having a down night, I've got someone right here to repalce you".     Nuggs will be hard to beat in the playoffs.






Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:22 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

Article was about point leader and Yak I do like yours better because that gives us a reason to continue to talk about Kobe Bryant for the remainder of the year.  I did look at that about a month ago and found it interesting.  Either way by next year he will only have Julius that may not be passed.  Imagine if he did go off next year though, unlikely as I think somewhere mid 20s will be his scoring for the next 2 years any way.  he does have a good supporting cast and is able to keep minutes down and scoring the same.

Who cares how it happened with Shaq leaving at this point, the one thing for certain was Kobe could not handle the day to day constant beration at the self inflating ego of Shaq and I am glad the Lakers made an excellent choice.  We did have to suffer a couple years, but look at us now.  If Shaq ever gets healthy and plays again he may be able to prolong Kobe passing him until the end of next season and if he has some resurgent manner maybe the next year, but i am looking forward to the race over the next year.




Since: Dec 2, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:04 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

Thanks for the response Omi.  I agree LeBron made a dumb, punk move.  I just also think Kobe was a jerk for some of the things he did...  There's got to be a better way to "get help" than to threaten to leave three different times in an off-season, and to do it so publically rather than behind closed doors in the organization.


It always amazes me to read what Laker fans say about Shaq these days.  How ungrateful can you be?  How much of a short memory can you have?  You realize all of this talk and praise you give Kobe wouldn't be there without Shaq, right?  Kobe did not storm into the league like Wade, LeBron, Durant, and Melo did... He was a big project his rookie season.  He took time to develop.  Kobe was NOT the player he is now (or during the Shaq-less losing years, or during the Pau Gasol championship runs) when Shaq was carrying them to titles.

It's okay to be happy with having Kobe for his entire career, but to sit there and bash Shaq and call him lazy or worthless is pathetic...

Shaq had three good years left in the tank when he was forced out of LA.  I really wish Kobe and Shaq could have grown up and co-existed longer.  That should have been a true dynasty.  Instead, as I understand it, Kobe wanted to be THE MAN the year after the Pistons title, and started a chain of events that pushed Shaq out of town.  I wish they could have sat down and "shared the load" for a couple years, and then Shaq could have been Kobe's second fiddle approximately three years after he was actually traded.  If they started winning titles again, everyone would be happy and stay competitive.

It's just sad.  It's said that one of the first things out of Kobe' mouth after the Colorado incident was "At least I don't pay ladies to stay quiet like Shaq."  You get caught and immediately point the finger at someone you feel threatened by??

Speaking of which,

"Yet, in a couple of years we will witness #8/#24 hanging alongside the other Laker legends."


So... Is it openly accepted among the Laker fan communicty that #8 was the rape/infidelity Kobe, and #24 is "mature, innocent" Kobe?  Do you label #8 pre-infidelity and #24 post-infidelity, and just try to forget the Colorado incident?  Would you actually want both numbers retired, or just #24?





Since: Feb 8, 2008
Posted on: March 9, 2011 3:47 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

Hey Bbowsh54,

At least Kobe was upfront. He said trade me. Lebron didn't say that and sleezed out. Cleveland could have traded him. Kobe used it as a ploy to get management to get him help. Cavs owner was trying to recruit players for him constantly. He wants it all on a silver platter. He though he could get the magic solution to a dynasty. He's an idiot, why did he not go to a team that needed the ball handler. Miami already had the ball handler. No synergy added if you combine Lebron and Wade as they do the same thing. Its not a all star game winning the title.

Maybe thats what Lebrons low IQ thinks.




Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: March 9, 2011 3:40 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

pointless debate.  It's like comparing Joe Montana to Dan Marino.  It's rings vs stats and rings always wins.  See the Brady vs manning threads for proof.



Since: Mar 9, 2011
Posted on: March 9, 2011 3:35 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

Points scored during the playoffs do not go towards a player's career total. It is a different list altogether:

Top 4 Scorers - Playoffs

1. Michael Jordan 5987

2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5762

3. Shaquille O'Neal 5248

4. Kobe Bryant 5052

So he is only 196 behind Shaq for playoff points. Will most likely pass him during the playoffs this season, barring a freak accident or upset loss. I would put up the top 300 scorers in playoff history, but it would take too long.




Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 2:32 pm
 

Kobe Bryant passes Moses Malone on scoring list

With 17 games left this season Kobe could accumulate anywhere between 425 and 500 points putting him about 6oo behind O'neal. The past few years he has gotten over 600 in the postseason. It would be kinda cool to see him elevate a little and pass O'neal in the finals to finish 5th alltime by the time they hoist up the championship trophy!!!


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