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Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

Posted on: March 24, 2011 4:26 pm
Edited on: March 24, 2011 6:49 pm
Posted by Royce Young

Earlier, there was a story out with a reported new plan to keep the Kings home in Sacramento. There weren't any specifics, just the word that the money was "in place" to keep the team in California's capital city.

Except that report might not be right. According to Marc Spears of Yahoo! Sports on Twitter, a source found the television report "laughable" and called the chances of the team staying "remote."

Darn. Not good.

All signs point to the Kings exiting Sacramento unless something drastic happens. The earlier report was encouraging, but with the way it sounds now, it's back to the drawing board. Money is at the heart of the issue, so if there was a way to come up with funding, it certainly would change things. But that might not be the case anymore. Which means someone else will have to step up.

Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: March 25, 2011 4:48 pm

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

sounds a lot like the city of miami. which has the two best basketball players in the world but still cannot sell out a game. bunch of retired old people. true fans that live in miami follow their home team, could care less about the "legendary" heat franchise.

Since: Sep 30, 2007
Posted on: March 25, 2011 4:32 pm

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

Hey Movie,

I am speaking of facts, your voicing your opinion(which is wrong)but that's your opinion. And you know what they say opinios are like assholes, every ones got one.

Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: March 25, 2011 12:38 pm

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

Las Vegas is not a city that would support a NBA team. I lived there for many years.  There is a reason Vegas has no other successful professional sports team. Do you really expect tourist to go to games? NO! The blue collar worker and even the mid to low white collar worker are struggling in that city. Why would a sports fan pay for a ticket when they could get a free seat in a sports book with super large screens and all the NBA action at once? Free food and beer to boot? Not to mention most people who live in Vegas are not born and raised in Vegas. They just work there. No real loyalty to the city.Las vegas is not their hometown. most likley not even their home state. Vegas is all about comps. You don't get comped to the game. You sure as hell don't pay to go. Also anyone in casino work, does not speend their free time in casinos. You get as far away from the bustle of city as possible for as long as possible. 
      Sacto has taken the KINGS as son's of their city. Some of the best fans in the NBA. That arena has been known to be one of the loudest in the league. It would be a damn shame for the money loving maloofs to do the greedy bastard bit with KINGS.

Since: Jan 15, 2009
Posted on: March 25, 2011 11:28 am

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

Settling some disputes on the size of non-NBA markets. First thing you need to realize is that NBA's not really concerned with the number of residents within a particular city. They're more interested in the number of televisions within the city's market and the number of people within the city's metropolitan area. This is a better indicator of how many fans are likely to watch on TV as well as attend games. You don't get too many fans drivinbg vast distances to watch many NBA games in person. At least not on a regular basis.

Plus, NBA teams get so much money from selling the corporate suites, which means they're interested in being places that have plenty of companies making decent enough money to spring for luxury boxes for their employees and to treat clients, etc.

That having been said, here are the top non-NBA TV markets and top non-NBA metro areas:

The 15 largest non-NBA cities - Listed by television market:
1.  Tampa-St. Petersburg, Florida (1,671,040)
2.  St. Louis, Missouri (1,216,700)
3.  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (1,186,010)
4.  Baltimore, Maryland (1,087,730)
5.  San Diego, California (1,025,730)
6.  Hartford, Connecticut (1,017,530)
7.  Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina (966,720)
8.  Nashville, Tennessee (916,170)
9.  Kansas City, Missouri (894,580)
10. Cincinnati, Ohio (883,230)
11. Columbus, Ohio (867,490)
12. Grand Rapids, Michigan (732,600)
13. Port St. Lucie-West Palm Beach, Florida (729,010)
14. Birmingham, Alabama (717,300)
15. Virginia Beach-Norfolk, Virginia (707,750)

The 15 largest non-NBA cities - Listed by MSA population (2004):
1. Riverside, California (3,793,081)(in Los Angeles-Anaheim TV market)
2. San Diego, California (2,931,714)
3. St. Louis, Missouri (2,764,054)
4. Baltimore, Maryland (2,639,613)
5. Tampa-St. Petersburg, Florida (2,587,967)
6. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (2,401,575)
7. Cincinnati, Ohio (2,058,221)
8. Kansas City, Missouri (1,925,319)
9. San Jose, California (1,741,431)(in San Francisco-Oakland TV market)
10. Columbus, Ohio (1,693,906)
11. Las Vegas, Nevada (1,650,671)
12. Virginia Beach-Norfolk, Virginia (1,644,250)
13. Providence, Rhode Island (1,628,808)
14. Austin, Texas (1,412,271)
15. Nashville, Tennessee (1,395,879)

Note the year on the MSA population. I'm sure this has changed slightly since then, with the population trending to the south and west. But it's pretty doggone close. Also, this was done before Seattle SuperSonics moved to Oklahoma City.

Note that the Seattle–Tacoma–Bellevue
, WA
, with an estimated population of 3,344,813,<sup id="cite_ref-metro_population_0-0" class="reference"></sup> making it the 15<sup>th</sup> largest . Oklahoma City isn't anywhere near that, but it's also the only other major league game in town, which helps in that market.

Just some facts to mess up the conjecture. Sorry.

Since: Feb 12, 2008
Posted on: March 25, 2011 5:16 am

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

Since: Mar 25, 2011
Posted on: March 25, 2011 1:01 am

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

BTW....that last comment was for 'GRUBSON'. Not the article in general.

Since: Mar 25, 2011
Posted on: March 25, 2011 12:57 am

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

In regards to your comment about the your homework before talking out of your sphincter.
Clearly you're not aware of the details that have gone down over the past several years, the financial BS the Maloofs have put the city through.
(QUICK...Google it!)
Also, it has ALWAYS been their intent to TRY to move the Kings to Vegas...or close enough to it.
Its very difficult to be a fan when the owners don't give a damn about the city or fans.

Think BEFORE you spew.


Since: Sep 30, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2011 11:51 pm

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

I dont know who to blame(or where to start).

Lets start with the owners:  How many times has the Maloofs put a quality product out there? what 3 years in the last thirty? What is there to support? Or why didnt they caugh up more money or find there own investers for a new stadium.

Second the fans:  How many times in the last five years have you had somthing on the ballot to build a new stadium and you turn it down? WAAAAY to many, dont cry now that they are leaving.

Since: Jun 28, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2011 10:39 pm

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

You are 100% correct RonnieB  Here is why.

"After it became apparent that the NBA would only allow four ABA teams to join the NBA, St. Louis owners Ozzie and Dan Silna reached a famous agreement with the other remaining ABA owners. In return for folding their team, the Spirits' owners obtained the right to 1/7 of any future television money received by the surviving ABA teams (Denver, Indiana, New York and San Antonio) -- in perpetuity. In the late 1970's, the NBA's contract with CBS was modest in scope. But as the NBA's popularity exploded in the 1980's and 1990's, the league's television rights were sold to CBS (and then NBC), plus the TNT and TBS cable networks, for hundreds of millions of dollars. Over the past 25 years, the Silnas have collected approximately $100 million from the NBA, despite the fact that the Spirits never played an NBA game. The Silnas continue to receive checks from the NBA on a yearly basis, representing a 4/7 share of the television money that would normally go to any NBA franchise."

I highly doubt a NBA team will be in the St. Louis future.

Since: Sep 8, 2006
Posted on: March 24, 2011 10:25 pm

Report: Plan to keep Kings in Sacto 'laughable'

Great point.

Love it.

However...lets add that millionares are being paid to play a game.  They arent curing cancer...they are playing a game.
I have gone and put athletes and ambulance chasing lawyers and owner/execs into the same slime ball category.

The biggest difference?  We as fans can change the athlete/whiny owner thing.  We can STOP going to games...and just watch what is on TV.  Even with the TV contracts this hurt in their wallet will be huge...and will send a message...lower seating....lower athletes pay....lower owner make it possible to for average fans to be attending fans....otherwise...take your NON-IMPORTANT BS and get bent.

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