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Players unhappy with owners' proposal

Posted on: May 4, 2011 11:53 am
Edited on: May 4, 2011 12:08 pm
 
Posted by Royce Young

The owners submitted a new proposal recently to the NBA players union and the players are reportedly unhappy with it, according to ESPN.com. The new proposal is a 10-year year deal that evidently isn't much different than the original one made a more than a year ago.

"Unfortunately, the proposal is very similar to the proposal the league submitted over a year ago," union president Derek Fisher told ESPN.com. "This last proposal doesn't look close to what we were expecting."

A lot of hope had been building as of late with the NFL's lockout being overruled by a judge and because of the incredible push the NBA has made over the season that a lockout would be avoided. And while it still very well can be, evidently the players are looking for something better than what they got.

The owners are opting out of the existing collective bargaining agreement as they're looking for major rollbacks in current contracts, cutting guaranteed contracts, a hard salary cap and a larger chunk of revenue. Under the current CBA, players receive 57 percent of the league's revenue.

David Stern said last month that the league is projecting a $300 million loss for the current season. The union disputes that number.

"With the recent news that Round 1 ratings are at an all-time high, the popularity of the game globally has never been higher, we have to work to keep this going in the right direction," Fisher also said. "I will continue to urge our players to be prepared in the event of a lockout, but will remain steadfast in my efforts to drive this process forward."
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Since: Mar 11, 2010
Posted on: May 4, 2011 3:18 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

I can't wait for this lockout. it is time for the NBA to go away, it is such a terrible product



Since: May 19, 2008
Posted on: May 4, 2011 3:10 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

bluenose is right on point!  Further complicating this issue is the disparity amongst the players themselves.  You have a cadre of 'elite' players who really control the game, and you see them leveraging their drawing power and talents to join into a few superteams, such as Boston, Miami, and New York.  The majority of NBA players are unable to really leverage anything, and are really the ones at risk here.  So, you have a few 'elite' players and a few really viable markets, what can you really do with the rest?



Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: May 4, 2011 2:48 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

The looming NBA lockout will make the current NFL one look like a 60's love-in.  The players and owners are far apart financially, organizationally, and strategically.  The NBA cannot remain viable with all but about a dozen teams effectively eliminated simply because of talent disparity.  Too much money is going out, and not enough is coming in.  ESPN is pushing as hard as it can to promote the NBA, yet numbers are down both at games and with tv viewership.  Casual fans are simply not watching the games. 

The players tend to want to go where they get a quick shot at the title.  With the current FA and cap rules this has created an effective minor league system within the NBA itself.  The problem is that these cities are drawing minor league crowds to the games.  The players are not going to accept the revisions necessary to make the league profitable to the owners.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: May 4, 2011 2:48 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

I think the owners should pay them 57% as stated.

BTW what is 57% of a negative $300,000,000?
Problem -- players get 57% of "revenue", not profits (or losses) and that is one of the reasons the NBA has $300,000,000 in losses, rather than breaking even or making a profit.  The players want their cut from total revunue, not profit or loss, as that would be an extreme pay cut--one they would never agree to.   




Since: Sep 19, 2007
Posted on: May 4, 2011 2:16 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

Hey Boomer12, you effing idiot, bigoted bastard...go deep throat a pipe bomb you racist fool. You're a coward and a queer.




Since: Jul 23, 2008
Posted on: May 4, 2011 2:09 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

i know you are only saying that b/c you are hiding behind your little computer and you wouldn't have the heart to talk that trash in front of a real "black guy"...
 SO TRUE!

It is so shameless that individuals (boomer) with little or no intelligence can pollute our entertainment so easily.  This website and the message boards exist for entertainment.  The NBA has its problems but it remains entertaining enough to have many fans and stay in business.  The problem with the business is that people are greedy.  Players and owners fight each other for pieces of pie that we FANS provide with our hard-earned money.

I say this over and over again, we the consumers have some control.  The NFL, NBA, MLB, and other professional leagues exist because we consume the product.  The games, competition, rivalries, bragging rights, etc are entertainment for us.

Capitalism has its flaws but we have to accept responsibillity for the consequences of our decisions and actions as consumers.  I have drastically reduced my consumption of NBA product.  I don't go to games anymore.  I watch games on TV very rarely.  And I don't read about it as much as I used to.

If the NFL stays locked out football fans will find some other form of entertainment to spend their money on.  If the NBA gets locked then NBA fans will find another form of entertainment to consume.  We have many options for spending our money.  Some of us will invest our dollars on saving our homes from foreclosure.  We can spend money on home improvements or buy a new car instead of buying expensive NFL tickets and traveling to another city to watch a game.

The problems between the NFL & the players association is not OUR problem.  The problems between the NBA & NBAPA is not OUR problem.  So, don't take it personal.  Don't get upset and bitter over it.  It really shouldn't matter to you unless you are employed by one of professional sports leagues.  I have no bitterness towards any professional athlete, regardless of their race, background, religion, etc, because of the money they make.  And I don't trivialize their talents and performance (SHOOT A BALL) just because I don't personally value what they do.  What they do has value to someone otherwise they wouldn't be paid to do it.

People that have hatred and bitterness inside them need to keep it to themselves.  People like that should be warned then eventually banned from this forum.  The rest of us are here for enjoyment and entertainment.  And we like to share our opinions and listen to the opinions of others in a RESPECTFUL manner.

There are certain themes that come up regularly on these message boards: freedom of speech & DISCRIMINATION.

I believe in freedom of speech but to a certain point.  When certain people speak they destroy the purpose of the activity.  This sports website and message board does not exist for the purpose of giving IDIOTS a platform to spread their disease.  These people have a disease called HATRED that is eating up their mind, body and souls eternally.

Professional sports exist in my life to the extent that I choose.  I love following sports, especially baseball.  I played sports all my life and I see the beauty in pure athletic/mental/teamwork performance.  I have studied baseball history and have enjoyed the bond between people of different generations and backgrounds through baseball.  Allow sports to be a positive in your life, not a negative.  It's your life.  It's your choice.



Since: Nov 14, 2007
Posted on: May 4, 2011 1:34 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

Shocker.Normally the owners make a proposal,the players agree and everyone is happy.



Since: Dec 2, 2008
Posted on: May 4, 2011 1:25 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

goodbye NBA noone cares anymore....maybe lebron can take his talents to mcdonalds and get a real job...lol
LMFAO, I just spit my pop up laughing at this.  5 stars for that one my friend.  I'm sure LeBron's got enough from endorsement money to be able to live off of.



Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2011 1:22 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

If the NBA is really losing that much money, then the owners need to get a hold of themselves and learn to spend properly.  Same thing with the NFL.  If the players want to avoid the lockout, agree to a hard cap (though I like how hockey runs it, you can be over in the offseason for a short period of time but MUST cut the salary by a certain time, and at no time during the season can it be over).  Also let the owners drop it to roughly 50% revenue sharing.  In turn, player contracts can stay the same way they are.  The NBA cannot afford a lockout.  If Stern wants the losses to really be as high as he claims, have a lockout.  



Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: May 4, 2011 1:22 pm
 

Players unhappy with owners' proposal

I like your math Mikeyfan! I was thinking the same thing. If they want that much then they should be reduced by the loss. From what I've read it seems like the NBA is being very open with their books unlike the NFL which stands for Not for Long if this lock out keeps up.


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